Oh yeah, then I guess I did forget about Wsan's comments on the matter. Though honestly from the tone I can't say whether he is upset about Brienne in the hobgoblin scene not being how he envisions her, or just that he got caught up in a Tobs shitshow. Either makes sense, having a character you wrote be misrepresented and having fans pester you about something you weren't involved with both sound like hassles worth avoiding.
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Pretty sure it was that the scene was really rapey. Tobs got the OK to write the scene, it's just...Tobs has a habit of not matching tone to the rest of the game. I think it was Balak that once said that the one who writes the most rapey stuff that ends up rejected is Tobs.
A lot of loss scenes are written like you and the baddies were basically just fighting for who was on top, and everyone basically has a good time.
This was was had straight up hitting and crying and was pretty rough overall.
It's been awhile. I don't recall him getting much shade in the official channels. Most people that used to discuss this game in a negative light on other websites (like the turbo dead reddit) usually kept their grievances insular. A dev would have to go out of their way to track down criticism before. I guess now it's a bit easier as it's condensed here but no dev reads here. Anyways the scene itself was a bit hard.
Moreover, it's easy to forget if you don't interact in the other places, I'd wager. But this game has 6k people who like it enough to support it. Meanwhile there's what? A dozen or so of us here?
It does speak volumes that he was given the go ahead, even if it did get out of hand. I do vaguely remember Tobs having consent to write a loss scene for Brienne which is why I thought Wsan was chill with the concept, if not the execution.
Not necessarily getting shade, it being a topic of discussion at all would probably be an eyesore for Wsan still. Enough to not wanna lease his creative control to other writers anymore.
I've seen the fenoxo forums. Yes you're not going to see the same vitriol there, but there are also many socially challenged furries and weebs on there that I'm sure grind their gears just as much as "haters" do. I also know people that have to deal with fans of their work. It's the well meaning ones being unintentionally obnoxious that usually hits the hardest.
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There's probably alot more people who have grievances with the game but just don't know about this site. Most of the complaints on either the discord or the forum get deleted so it usually just ends up looking like everyone loves the game
I mean, it is true. I am prone to swear so I guess I feel more comfortable using those words in my writing. I am used to them and don't see their use as something weird. Still, I try to limit that resource to characters that I could see swearing (Lyla and Sandre being soldiers or angry Alissa being full of hatred, for example). I wouldn't have Ryn or Gytha swearing so aggressively.
I admit I didn't think about the kids. I stay away from having kids in this kind of games since wholesome content bores me to no end and pregnancy usually involves a lot of wholesome scenes so I didn't even know that you could have them running around the Wayfort and thought that they were all in Gwyn's nursery. Like, idk, why do you guys let your kids run around a fortress full of naked demons and sexed up plants and maids in the first place? This is why in porn games, kids should be non existant outside the clearly delimited areas like nurseries, at least in my opinion.
I honestly don't know what else to say regarding this point. Maybe we can all headcannon it as the courtyard being off limits to children.
Yeah I do find the "Won't someone think of the children!" thing somewhat comical. You're not forced to expose the kids to anything, and you already have the option to collect demons like they're pokemon in there. If you want a kid friendly playground, you have the necessary tools or headcanon needed to untraumatize those poor made up children you've been irresponsibly breeding like weeds.
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Man now I want a scene where Ryn gets shitfaced drunk and starts swearing like a sailor
Personally, I just think of it as "Wayfort" and "Wayfort after Dark".
It's not too hard to think that the adults just bundle the kids away after a certain hour. Heck, my parents did that.
I think the current situation is the result of some slight pivots. The Wayfort was originally just for "corrupt" characters and the goodie two shoes were going to get the castle back in town.
Also, the unique kids are a relatively new thing, most of them popping up in the past year or two, so there wasn't really a plan for them.
It's not too hard to think that the adults just bundle the kids away after a certain hour. Heck, my parents did that.
I think the current situation is the result of some slight pivots. The Wayfort was originally just for "corrupt" characters and the goodie two shoes were going to get the castle back in town.
Also, the unique kids are a relatively new thing, most of them popping up in the past year or two, so there wasn't really a plan for them.
Look, I've already been on my soap box about the self initiating events. That ships sailed. However~
None of the demons are naked. Kassyra isn't naked either when she visits Freja. Also technically the horny naked ones are either out in a garden off to the side and intentionally out of sight, in the bar, or...
Actually no yeah it's just that.
Vatia and Aafi are nude but it's marefolk nudist beach amounts of nude. Even including that, both of them make considerations for the environment:
- The courtyard leading out to the gate has Aafi naked out there but she's working them out (non sexually). And when you engage in the nasty with her she takes you out of the courtyard to the forest. Even the maids when they're out there
- For Vatia she's in her room, and when you engage in the nasty she leaves your offspring in her room and makes it to yours.
Technically the biggest prude of them all is Farrah. Not only is she sequestered in her own little area and her bargains that we witness are limited to teasing. But, they're entirely chaste.
The big point being that most of the wayfort despite being filled with people horned up to the moon, usually do their business in the decency of privacy. Internally there's a bit of lack of logic if people can be prudish about sex to the point that they're taking all of the actions above, and yet have no compunction about public use in the stocks.
Mind you the existence of the stocks at all practically guaranteed somebody was going to end up in them. So it's not like I fault you, their existence, or scenes that include them. Just that it's a bit off-putting when weighed against everything else including that the wayfort is part nursery now.
Also given you're here;
The stocks are simultaneously both empty and full.
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That and how many people just don't care anymore? I mean take a trip down the memory lane that is this thread. There is delicious unadulterated fuckery, just overflowing in earlier posts. Raging hate boners that could choke out every single stretched out character in CoC 1&2. Yet those fires have long gone out and moved on. A lot of folks still support. But how many have already packed up and left?
Plus we gotta remember that there are many people who aren't going to make accounts for anything, just to complain. I used to be one of them for a long time. Something went wrong? Either deal or move on. But then I realized the fun in stirring shit and here I am. A connoisseur of the sewers if you will.
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Nice opinion you have there. Sadly for you, the majority of people here disagree with you. Can bet that the moment the game is modable, Etheryn is getting dedicked pronto. My only regret is not being able to see that spitefull little cucks face(Savin) when it happens.
Not bad points. The concept of the "good customer" and all. Alright. This might be a bit wordy.
Let me drop the kayfabe for a bit and be a bit more candid:
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Though I mentioned it in passing, while I'll mostly interact with this thread for the sheer enjoyment of picking at CoC2, I mostly follow TiTS still because of the enjoyment I got out of it in the past.
You know how few games let you be highly mutable slime and actually reference that? Very fucking few. I'll be riding that TiTS wave until the games finally finally finished.... In 2032.
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I don't like some of the posters there but lol....
45+ pages
You know you don't gotta lie right?
I don't think they're as harsh as people make out (as that implies they really give a shit about most of the opinions people post there), but this is a weak example lol.
That particular thread only even exists because they locked the previous one and banned a bunch of people. Also has great stuff like Savin including lines like "it's okay to be wrong" and that the staff will probably make fun of you for it, but also people shouldn't discuss opinions they disagree with. Very normal stuff to put in the OP for an official complaints thread.
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the complaint are more or less the same in that thread even more so when it comes with the kitsune content just by scanning through the thread lol so no its not a weak example(the stuff in the OP is lol tho). lets be real tho the moderation is only painted as "harsh" here because they can't openly attack the savin and the others personally by calling them cucks and other stupid shit.
I am not sure how the discord is because the idea of having 20+ discords even more so for a game i really don't even touch that much anymore is fucking stupid but i am pretty sure more or less the forums are dead anyway or at the very least don't got enough actual posting to matter since lets be real both CoC and TiTS lose more people then actually gain anyone even if they gain someone i doubt they even know that forum exist.
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You don't understand! After all shit that Wayfort has been through there is still some time-space paradoxes. Like y'know Schrödinger's cat or someting. This attention to the details is insane!
I've wasted a bucket of sarcasm on this. I suppose there is no man in Fenoxo who is responsible for final text check.
Hey you're not be wrong. Vision Quest had that void meteor slam into the Wayfort in the past. The Champ's trained cumdumps elves used that thing to fix the place up later. Freaky shit might've been going on behind the scenes until the Champ retroactively exorcises it.
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