Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Biostar]

The only games which feature masculine males are all gay porn for some reason I cannot fathom.

I think you have a weird definition of masculine male if that's your takeaway. Or your sample size is simply too small.

 

[Skandranon]

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I'm as likely to believe that wanting to get fucked by a dick is straight, as I would that brojobs are.

Most futa works are futa on female, by far. It has nothing to do with the (male, in this example) viewer wanting to get fucked by a dick....unless you think anyone who watches standard male on female porn ALSO wants to get fucked by a dick.

But even futa on male stuff is often just a guy fantasy about femdom.

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You're talking about games, and mostly this one in specific; I'm talking about in general.

Even in games such as this one, note there are no futa with beards, masculine facial features, no futas that choose to identify as "he" instead of "she", no futas that dress heavily in masculine wear.

They have both parts, they could just as easily present as a dude instead of a woman, but that never happens.

This flavor of futas is largely a straight guy fantasy about a dominant woman, and a guy's first thought about being dominant is... having a dick (which says something negative about how guys think I guess).

Though if you switch over to hentai and such, futa being in the sub position and being penetrated is far more common than in games, and futa being attached to body types of all sizes. How Fengames use futa isn't really reflective of all futa stuff as a whole.

 

[mrttao]

Why you play as masculine fute, when you could play as masculine male!?

Where did you get that idea from?
In a game that let me fully customize my character I play as a masculine male.

The vast majority of games don't let you customize your character though. So the choice is usually between:
1. hyper masculine futa squirting testosterone everywhere like a true alpha male
2. hyper feminized bitch boi twink that I can't believe is actually straight
3. hyper masculine gay male

Even in games such as this one, note there are no futa with beards, masculine facial features, no futas that choose to identify as "he" instead of "she", no futas that dress heavily in masculine wear.

An 8 feet tall amazon with more muscles than mister universe who can bend steel bars with their bare hands and exhibits all the male stereotype personality traits dialed up to 11 doesn't need a beard to be masculine.

Although a beard would be nice

 

[Doran]

Most futa works are futa on female, by far

In my admittedly limited experience, like 80% of it is futa on futa.

But even futa on male stuff is often just a guy fantasy about femdom.

I do not understand the appeal of femdom, and I definitely do not understand how finding an explicitly male sexual organ attractive has anything to do with wanting to be dominated by a woman.

 

[mrttao]

I think you have a weird definition of masculine male if that's your takeaway. Or your sample size is simply too small.

So you know any? I would LOVE to receive some links.

I linked literally the only game I know on this site where the premade (in chargen you can make MC be whatever. and those are also limited to text only games) male MC is heterosexual, is actually tall and muscular, and a non feminized personality?

My sample size is "all games that updated in the last 3 months, and some who updated in last 6" as I check the update list daily. I would love to expand my sample size with some examples of masculine MCs.

In my admittedly limited experience, like 80% of it is futa on futa.

In my experience that is like <1% of it.

 

[Skandranon]

An 8 feet tall amazon with more muscles than mister universe who can bend steel bars with their bare hands and exhibits all the male stereotype personality traits dialed up to 11 doesn't need a beard to be masculine.

Although a beard would be nice

What you're describing aren't exclusively male traits, they're dominant traits. As I said, quite often futa is a fantasy of a dominant woman.
Let me point out that plenty of women in these games exhibit these same traits. Last I checked, Brienne is also an 8 foot tall muscle mommy who loves hitting the gym and drinking and such...

But notice that male traits that have nothing to do with being dominant (such as facial or body hair, pronoun choice, casual clothing choice and facial features) are all almost always exclusively feminine.

In my admittedly limited experience, like 80% of it is futa on futa.

Futa on futa is by far the least common type. Futa on female>>Futa on male>>>>Futa on futa, in terms of popularity.

I do not understand the appeal of femdom, and I definitely do not understand how finding an explicitly male sexual organ attractive has anything to do with wanting to be dominated by a woman.

Eh, I don't understand foot fetishes. Different strokes and all that.

But if I was to try to explain it, its just like pegging. There a reason pegging is often associated with femdom and dominatrix play. Men have traditionally held the power role in the world throughout most of out history. Men have penises, and are the ones doing the penetrating; thus, penetration is seen as a dominant act.
So a girl pegging a guy is often seen as the girl being the dominant one (of course there's also the aspect of enjoying it physically but that's not super important for the purposes of this conversation).
Futa is just taking that to its natural conclusion.

 

[mrttao]

What you're describing aren't exclusively male traits, they're dominant traits.

masculine

măs′kyə-lĭn
adjective

1. Of or relating to men or boys; male.
2. Characterized by or possessing qualities traditionally attributed to men, such as aggressiveness.
3. Relating or belonging to the gender of words or forms that refer chiefly to males or to things grammatically classified as male.

Masculine does not mean "something only a male can do, like a beard" (and even then there are bearded ladies due to hormonal issues).
Masculine means qualities traditionally attributed to men.

Are there aggressive women? yes. but the trait is still masculine
Are there female body builders? yes. but the trait is still masculine

 

[mrttao]

I think you have a weird definition of masculine male if that's your takeaway. Or your sample size is simply too small.

my definition is the actual definition

These are masculine traits:
Dominant, virile, only fucks women, aggressive, big cock, tall, muscular, strong, physical, hairy, bearded, BO (I am not into it. but it is a commonly featured traits. and its definitely anti-feminine to have BO)

These are examples of feminized males:
Twink, twig, shota, wuss, simp, shrimp.

 

[Skandranon]

Masculine does not mean "something only a male can do, like a beard" (and even then there are bearded ladies due to hormonal issues).
Masculine means qualities traditionally attributed to men.

Are there aggressive women? yes. but the trait is still masculine
Are there female body builders? yes. but the trait is still masculine

Well for one, as I pointed out, what you're describing doesn't describe all futa. The ones in this game, definitely, but outside of the Fenverse, futa have a much wider variety. Author appeal for these games just kinda points that way. Futa fairly often exhibit far less traits that would be considered "masculine" than those in this game.

Secondly, as I pointed out (and this is a much deeper discussion that we probably shouldn't play out here about gender norms and whatnot) I maintain that there is a difference between "masculine" and "dominant" but the problem is that in real life said difference often doesn't show itself. In fantasy games, like this one, those definitions become more malleable.

A 7 foot tall bodybuilder/fighter in real life would almost certainly be traditionally unattractive; but Brienne is one of the most popular characters in this game, and mostly by straight guys. "Masculine" and "feminine" have a different bent to them when it comes to fictional porn.

 

[mrttao]

The ones in this game, definitely, but outside of the Fenverse, futa have a much wider variety.

While variety technically exists. I find the fenverse representation of hypermasculine futa to be the vast overwhelming majority of the work find.
If you want to try and find an actually feminine futa you have to dig deep and search wide.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

If you want to try and find an actually feminine futa you have to dig deep and search wide.

lul wut? Sadpanda, filter by female:futanari. I don't think I've seen a single muscle girl and it's a fairly even split between tops, bottoms and no serious emphasis on dominance. Fen games lean mostly into a subsection I've seen refered to as futadom, though it's not really prolific enough to have a recognised tag anywhere I've seen. Unless I'm being dense and you're strictly refering to fengames and fengames only, in which case fair enough.

 

[mrttao]

lul wut? Sadpanda, filter by female:futanari

95% of them are aggressive giant amazons with a 16 inch long bitch breaker who rape and dominate frail little subby women.
4% of them are the same, but rape and dominate a bitch boi twink in the ass.
1% of them are feminine and take a cock in the pussy... usually from another futa.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

95% of them are aggressive giant amazons with a 16 inch long bitch breaker who rape and dominate frail little subby women.

We apparently have very different definitions of what constitutes an amazon, is it just not feminine to you unless they're a stereotypical 1950s housewife?

 

[Quintilus]

stereotypical 1950s housewife

 

[Skandranon]

95% of them are aggressive giant amazons with a 16 inch long bitch breaker who rape and dominate frail little subby women.
4% of them are the same, but rape and dominate a bitch boi twink in the ass.
1% of them are feminine and take a cock in the pussy... usually from another futa.

Can't really agree; this hasn't been my experience, and even looking now, amazons do not at all seem to be the default; far from it.

 

[IcemanR]

When did things become so complicated.....dick gets hard or any type of sexual pleasure from a male = gay as ************. No judgement it's just not that hard

 

[Skandranon]

When did things become so complicated.....dick gets hard or any type of sexual pleasure from a male = gay as ************. No judgement it's just not that hard

It becomes complicated when you play games in a fantasy world where you can have vaginas on guys and penises on girls and any spectrum of combinations besides.

 

[jfmherokiller]

why yall being so serious? its just a porn game. A somewhat disappointing but otherwise workable porn game.

 

[Skandranon]

why yall being so serious? its just a porn game. A somewhat disappointing but otherwise workable porn game.

Who's serious?

It's just a fun conversation trying to scientifically discern the exact amount of centaur jizz you can swallow before you're officially gay.

 

[Quintilus]

It becomes complicated when you play games in a fantasy world where you can have vaginas on guys and penises on girls and any spectrum of combinations besides.

There are a million choices of who you are able to become.....and you choose gay.