Why would routes specifically suffer from having less content? The amount of content is dictated by whether the author bothers to write it. There are NPCs brimming with scenes, there're others that are practically barren.These are aforementioned dispersion of effort resulting in less content in each route, and the second, larger issue i take with it is how it effectively trivializes NPC personalities and their changes, making it relatively effortless and casual affair.
Bruh.It turns what should be their own characters into playdoh figurines for the player's amusement. And while i can understand intellectually the kick some people get out of this sort of power fantasies it just isn't my thing. Like the power fantasies tend to do, it cheapens the affected characters and the whole thing for me.
La-di-da, what a route that is. If that route can be called corruption me taking a shit is also corruption.Her corrupt route is low confidence route.
They have to hardcode everything to prevent the modders from putting incest into the game.why the fuck is the coding/reviewing so utterly fucking slow for this game..
While I'd normally agree, there are still subconscious connotations surrounding genitals and gender norms.Playing devil's advocate, but many people today would tell you that “feeling like a woman” has no relation to and is completely divorced from the fact of having or not having a penis.
Seriously, nonesuch was the only one speaking sense there. They hate Embry because her race was specifically created to facilitate her story. But like he said, how many super feminine futa races are there, or races who could turn into anything but they usually choose a hyper feminine appearance, or races with a male gender but when around pregnant females of their race they turn more feminine (kaithrit, makes me roll my fucking eyes). People put whatever they want into the game so they can create their porn or specific story.Based Nonesuch.
That would be the best scenario, identity issue.Ryn was originally supposed to be a trap, and it seems that the "half-sexed" nature of Elves stems from her identity issues.
Woah, bro, we discussed it here multiple times. Why everybody thinks this game have anything to do with corruption? Where such premise always came from? From the game name or something?Corruption is supposed to be a major theme in the game
Man, F/F impregnation and pregnancy (a.k.a. “science/magic babies”) is so fucking rare lmao. I was hoping this game might have some options like that eventually (e.g. for Kiyoko when playing a female PC), but so far I've literally never seen a game with that kink/whatever you want to call it.Or even better, Lumia is meant to be a god like entity why not give my champ vagina juices with sperm like properties so I can impregnate her even with vagina to vagina?
Fantastic work appreciate this a lot I had a feeling Ryn didn't object to getting a vagina originally I wonder why they changed their mind on this.TObs and Savin dislike Embry from TiTS, yet don't seem to realize that Ryn essentially has that exact same mentality with her (bipolar) characterization, as well as "not wanting a vagina" line of reasoning, that really doesn't seem to make sense when considering her character (well, especially in-line with the world, which is the same criticism that they levied toward Embry...).
Also, TObs criticized Embry for being a "trans expy", yet, isn't that what Ryn seemingly is (or seemingly acts like, when considering the setting of the game)?
So, time to also criticize Ryn then:
-Ryn implied before that she tried to remove her penis. Actually wants to keep though.
-Ryn implied before that she tried to grow a vagina. Actually doesn't want though.
-Ryn implied before that she wants to feel more "womanly", and likes feeling womanly. Already is though, right?
-Ryn implied before that if she was given the choice, she would want to be born a woman. Oh?
-Ryn doesn't have an explicit repeatable talk scene about never wanting a vagina - no matter how much the writers want to justify her stance, she only brings it up in 2-ish scenes ? - both of which are one off scenes. Give her a repeatable scene then, so that it's not easy to miss, no?
-Ryn was originally supposed to be a trap, and it seems that the "half-sexed" nature of Elves stems from her identity issues. It seems that the primary design document was edited in 2019 to remove the fact that Ryn used to be referred to as a "trap" - wonder if it was Alypia that complained. Maybe because Ryn was supposed to be a "trap" is the actual justification by Savin as to why she'll never get a vagina?
-Savin's criticisms of Embry also extend to her being a bubble character from a bubble race - yet JimT quit writing pr0n, so he wouldn't exactly have ever gotten around to expanding on the character or the race (Frogapus did expand on her a bit though - hope she does bit more, and for Prai as well). Savin also mentioned that he has never read the character (as he hates Embry), and would never create a Simii character... Make of that what you will.
-Dev criticism - seems like most of the devs just treat Ryn as though she's busty / enthiccened - due to the newer art only reflecting that side of Ryn, yet she actually starts pretty flat / thin. Guess that side of her character is also as forgotten about her as the submissive side.
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I worded that poorly what I meant to say is IRL a full sex change op is a life changing experience with no turning back its a huge deal and many are against going all the way due to the consequences and the possibility of not getting the full experience of being a woman. So what I meant is they use real life transsexuals as justification not to remove Ryn's dick which I think goes against what was already written for the character I fear their personal politics is crippling a game which has a world that doesn't need that justification. I am also pro keeping the dick as femboi trap too at the end of the day I see options as a good thing especially for a major character. However do agree that too many options leads to development hell seen it happen on a loads of games on here so you aren't entirely wrong but this game has tons of writers and tons of money which the games I speak of didn't have.I mean, especially in fantasy world where changing your genitals is just a short walk to your nearest alchemy shop (and you can sport a different set thrice a week) it kind of establishes that genitals don't in fact determine your gender. People who got their genitals swapped because of the demon interference don't immediately start thinking of themselves as being of the opposite gender, either.
As for Embry, you seem to misunderstand the source of dislike for her -- which is, that character had their entire species devised specifically so she could have a present-day transition story as her (only) character arc, in a world where said transition would normally be as simple as taking a short walk to your nearest sf alchemy store. It's not really anything like Ryn who simply wants to keep a dick despite some subset of players who'd prefer her not to and grow resentful an NPC wouldn't just bend to their wishes.
Hit the nail on the head and after what happen with Berry boi I would rather have more options than options taken away from me like dom Berry impregnating my sub female mc.Couldn't it be argued that a majority of the Winter City storyline was written with the requirement of Etheryn having a dick? Wouldn't that be a lot worse than just having a throwaway race written solely for the purpose of a transition story?
Also, it's pretty silly to think people resent a fake character in a smut game, sure a lot of people here express their dislike for her, but to goes as far to say they resent her? Nah. If anything people hate Savin more for the lack of options, even if Ryn was super attached to her dick (which I didn't really see any evidence of in the time I played) why not have a corruption route where you can trick her into getting rid of it? Corruption is supposed to be a major theme in the game, and a major character like Etheryn should definitely see some effects from it if the player chooses so.
I know right been a fav kink of mine ever since seeing a doujin of it on sad panda. There used to be a yuri collection of short stories with a preg fetish it was great. No sadly can't think of any games with magical lesbian baby making would love to see some though.Man, F/F impregnation and pregnancy (a.k.a. “science/magic babies”) is so fucking rare lmao. I was hoping this game might have some options like that eventually (e.g. for Kiyoko when playing a female PC), but so far I've literally never seen a game with that kink/whatever you want to call it.
Yuri Ninshin, RIP.They used to a yuri collection of short stories with a preg fetish it was great.
"don't fit the universe tho" just seems like not good enough of an excuse when the lore is just so malleable. These games, their lore is just not very good to begin with, they make shit up as they go, so that it fits whatever they're writing at that point.TObs and Savin dislike Embry from TiTS, yet don't seem to realize that Ryn essentially has that exact same mentality with her (bipolar) characterization, as well as "not wanting a vagina" line of reasoning, that really doesn't seem to make sense when considering her character (well, especially in-line with the world, which is the same criticism that they levied toward Embry...).
Also, TObs criticized Embry for being a "trans expy", yet, isn't that what Ryn seemingly is (or seemingly acts like, when considering the setting of the game)?
So, time to also criticize Ryn then:
-Ryn implied before that she tried to remove her penis. Actually wants to keep though.
-Ryn implied before that she tried to grow a vagina. Actually doesn't want though.
-Ryn implied before that she wants to feel more "womanly", and likes feeling womanly. Already is though, right?
-Ryn implied before that if she was given the choice, she would want to be born a woman. Oh?
-Ryn doesn't have an explicit repeatable talk scene about never wanting a vagina - no matter how much the writers want to justify her stance, she only brings it up in 2-ish scenes ? - both of which are one off scenes. Give her a repeatable scene then, so that it's not easy to miss, no?
-Ryn was originally supposed to be a trap, and it seems that the "half-sexed" nature of Elves stems from her identity issues. It seems that the primary design document was edited in 2019 to remove the fact that Ryn used to be referred to as a "trap" - wonder if it was Alypia that complained. Maybe because Ryn was supposed to be a "trap" is the actual justification by Savin as to why she'll never get a vagina?
-Savin's criticisms of Embry also extend to her being a bubble character from a bubble race - yet JimT quit writing pr0n, so he wouldn't exactly have ever gotten around to expanding on the character or the race (Frogapus did expand on her a bit though - hope she does bit more, and for Prai as well). Savin also mentioned that he has never read the character (as he hates Embry), and would never create a Simii character... Make of that what you will.
-Dev criticism - seems like most of the devs just treat Ryn as though she's busty / enthiccened - due to the newer art only reflecting that side of Ryn, yet she actually starts pretty flat / thin. Guess that side of her character is also as forgotten about her as the submissive side.
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Ah, sorry. Yes, i did read your post but you didn't bring up this aspect when talking about Ryn, just her "exact same mentality with her (bipolar) characterization, as well as "not wanting a vagina" line of reasoning". Now that you mention it (and re-reading i can sort of see it further down in your post when talking about Ryn as "trap", the implication has originally eluded me) i can agree that the CoC2 elves might be viewed as "invented for Ryn" in similar manner.No, did you read the post? Equated the Simii lore with how it appears as though Savin invented the whole "half-sexed" lore in an effort to also justify Ryn's identity issues (again, she was originally supposed to be a "trap").
There was a slave training game that used various characters from a bunch of IPs (Slave Maker I believe) that had a magic double dildo a female trainer could get to use to impregnate slaves (Iceni Feeldo?) that's the only one I can think of.Man, F/F impregnation and pregnancy (a.k.a. “science/magic babies”) is so fucking rare lmao. I was hoping this game might have some options like that eventually (e.g. for Kiyoko when playing a female PC), but so far I've literally never seen a game with that kink/whatever you want to call it.
That's not really the same IMO (and I'm not a fan of dildos personally in the first place), but it's something I guess.There was a slave training game that used various characters from a bunch of IPs (Slave Maker I believe) that had a magic double dildo a female trainer could get to use to impregnate slaves (Iceni Feeldo?) that's the only one I can think of.
I feel you, I do wish more games let me indulge my preg fetish without the character needing male equipment or the equivalent.That's not really the same IMO (and I'm not a fan of dildos personally in the first place), but it's something I guess.
How?without the character needing male equipment or the equivalent.
Usually through magic or sci-fi technology (e.g. merging two ova to form a female fetus). That's why they're called "magic/science babies".How?
Bruh, that's so hilarious.TObs and Savin dislike Embry from TiTS, yet don't seem to realize that Ryn essentially has that exact same mentality with her (bipolar) characterization, as well as "not wanting a vagina" line of reasoning, that really doesn't seem to make sense when considering her character (well, especially in-line with the world, which is the same criticism that they levied toward Embry...).
Also, TObs criticized Embry for being a "trans expy", yet, isn't that what Ryn seemingly is (or seemingly acts like, when considering the setting of the game)?
So, time to also criticize Ryn then:
-Ryn implied before that she tried to remove her penis. Actually wants to keep though.
-Ryn implied before that she tried to grow a vagina. Actually doesn't want though.
-Ryn implied before that she wants to feel more "womanly", and likes feeling womanly. Already is though, right?
-Ryn implied before that if she was given the choice, she would want to be born a woman. Oh?
-Ryn doesn't have an explicit repeatable talk scene about never wanting a vagina - no matter how much the writers want to justify her stance, she only brings it up in 2-ish scenes ? - both of which are one off scenes. Give her a repeatable scene then, so that it's not easy to miss, no?
-Ryn was originally supposed to be a trap, and it seems that the "half-sexed" nature of Elves stems from her identity issues. It seems that the primary design document was edited in 2019 to remove the fact that Ryn used to be referred to as a "trap" - wonder if it was Alypia that complained. Maybe because Ryn was supposed to be a "trap" is the actual justification by Savin as to why she'll never get a vagina?
-Savin's criticisms of Embry also extend to her being a bubble character from a bubble race - yet JimT quit writing pr0n, so he wouldn't exactly have ever gotten around to expanding on the character or the race (Frogapus did expand on her a bit though - hope she does bit more, and for Prai as well). Savin also mentioned that he has never read the character (as he hates Embry), and would never create a Simii character... Make of that what you will.
-Dev criticism - seems like most of the devs just treat Ryn as though she's busty / enthiccened - due to the newer art only reflecting that side of Ryn, yet she actually starts pretty flat / thin. Guess that side of her character is also as forgotten about her as the submissive side.
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Based Nonesuch.