Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[A Burning Conscience]

What?

[Sigh of wasted memory cells]
The revised intro to the game (I don't know when they introduced it, but it wasn't in the original) has an introduction to transformative items. You get given a pink egg and a blue potion. If you drink the blue potion then your dick gets big (because blue = big man in Savin logic... despite historically blue being a woman's colour, and red being for men even in modern colour theory you un-learned fu-).
If you drink the dick grow juice, then even though you can hear Cait's sister screaming in the background, Cait stops and offers to give your extra inches a quick blowy, you know, because she's got to help you calm down and all.
Nice to know Cait is consistent in her priorities.

 

[thecatcameback]

I wish there was a Kas mode for this game. As in, the MC becomes the person with the leash on Kas after the portal explodes. Fighting off the cultists to control over her. Your corruption increases if you let her fuck up the world or decreases if you help her get her baby ending.

 

[Wrynn13]

Well I just quoted the game. I generally assumed that the game follows the general rule of "the bigger she is the bigger she can take". I guess Taeleers are size queens since their ability to accommodate large objects inside them rivals that of mino girls and centaurs. At this point I wish we embraced the hentai anatomy aka all can fit all.
I guess the weirdness springs from some writers trying to be realistic while others believe in "grotesque belly bulge" without any internal damage.

Although given that you can use all 3 fuck Ryn options even with huge dick makes me wonder whether the game takes place in matrix, so that mc's ability to fit hinges purely on their belief.

I was joking, you are right in that the game is absolutely not consistent or realistic with sex sizes. Including breasts. That said the Taeleer probably are size queens considering rabbits.

 

[Quintilus]

even though you can hear Cait's sister screaming in the background, Cait stops and offers to give your extra inches a quick blowy

Porn game, YEEEEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Quintilus]

I was joking, you are right in that the game is absolutely not consistent or realistic with sex sizes. Including breasts. That said the Taeleer probably are size queens considering rabbits.

The most obvious solution, which wouldnt happen, ever, is to not describe size in an absolute units. Like instead of 'you have 10/15/15/0928094 inches long pp' turn it to 'you have small and cute pp/ordinary sized pp/big and thick pp/breeding tool designed to repopulate the face of the earth'. For breasts that should be 'titties that could be covered by palm/fit into one palm'/fits into two palms/immeasurable by mans hands softness of bosom', and with vagina...what the characteristics used here usually, loosenes?? 'virgin tight/experienced/brood mother gaping' I dont know man
In this way everybody could decided on its own which size description correspond to which absolute size units ('small and cute pp' equal to 5 inches??? Or maybe 7?? Or a whole 10?? I mean, we talking about furry and furry porn logic, so it could be even 25 inches)

 

[zwagon]

it's actually common to find npcs with no mention anywhere (except maybe in the code) of their absolute size. the reason for the difference i would guess is for gameplay reasons

 

[Sinistrem]

Porn game, YEEEEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair, there is no winning when it comes to realism vs porn logic.

A writer trying to write normally, without descending into smut right and left?
"Lmao look at this idiot thinking he is a real big writer writing a novel"

A writer trying to add smut, to dilute the serious writing?
"Lol, porn logic, smut out of nowhere."

Tbh, in a game where fighting 99% of enemies ends up with a more or less consensual sex, I don't think that random smut should be considered something weird or out of place.

 

[Quintilus]

To be fair, there is no winning when it comes to realism vs porn logic.

And thats why 'monster girl quest' have a much, much.much more solid plot, than this excuse of a game, yeah. Yes, its exception, but still...

 

[A Burning Conscience]

To be fair, there is no winning when it comes to realism vs porn logic.

A writer trying to write normally, without descending into smut right and left?
"Lmao look at this idiot thinking he is a real big writer writing a novel"

A writer trying to add smut, to dilute the serious writing?
"Lol, porn logic, smut out of nowhere."

Tbh, in a game where fighting 99% of enemies ends up with a more or less consensual sex, I don't think that random smut should be considered something weird or out of place.

There's still probably a better time to inject a random blowjob than after you just murdered three people and you're in hot pursuit.
It also ruins the fact that Kas used to be the first sex (and erotic content at all) of the game, which is thematic. Now Cait has cucked even her out of her story significance.
So again, consistent.
Oh also she doesn't eat you out if you use the pink egg, guess her priorities are Dick, Everything else, Sister, Pussy

 

[NODOGAN]

And thats why 'monster girl quest' have a much, much.much more solid plot, than this excuse of a game, yeah. Yes, its exception, but still...

Even the remake Paradox which is going for a totally different story angle is still hella solid writting...AND IT ALL HINGES IN A FUCKING GAME MECHANIC BECOMING PART OF THE STORY ABOUT WHY THE WORLD IS SO FUCKED UP! lol, genius.

 

[Sinistrem]

But that just proves my point, monster girl quest just accepts porn logic without bothering about "realism". It doesn't take itself serious and doesn't try to pretend it'd be a good game even if you removed porn, something many porn games nowadays try to do (I'm not sure why, are authors insecure about making a porn game and try to deny it?)

 

[Quintilus]

But that just proves my point, monster girl quest just accepts porn logic without bothering about "realism". It doesn't take itself serious and doesn't try to pretend it'd be a good game even if you removed porn, something many porn games nowadays try to do (I'm not sure why, are authors insecure about making a porn game and try to deny it?)

No, if you remove porn from MGQ (first one, not paradox) it still would have a solid story. A bit silly, from some perspective, but still a story, with defined point, antagonist and such. I mean, porn is not main, world/game creating part there.

 

[zwere]

It also ruins the fact that Kas used to be the first sex (and erotic content at all) of the game, which is thematic. Now Cait has cucked even her out of her story significance.

That's up to player agency, you don't have to take or use the potion, or even if you do, you can still decline. Pretty consistent given that you can also turn down Kasyrra, as well.

As far as sizes are concerned, I prefer the fact that it doesn't devolve into size divisions the way TiTS does. There are some rather grotesque looking characters, either because they have oversized or too many bits. Not a big fan of inflation and hyper sizes.

 

[NODOGAN]

No, if you remove porn from MGQ (first one, not paradox) it still would have a solid story. A bit silly, from some perspective, but still a story, with defined point, antagonist and such. I mean, porn is not main, world/game creating part there.

I mean he's got a point, MGQ is one of those games you enter and are like "came for porn, stayed for the story" (it also helps they add a gallery mode so you don't need to lose to see the sex scenes, aka: it respects it's story but also respects is a porn game and the player wants to get their rocks off.)

Dammit I cannot wait for part 3 of Paradox to be out and translated to FINALLY know the ending of that amazing story! 2028 gonna be a great year!

As far as sizes are concerned, I prefer the fact that it doesn't devolve into size divisions the way TiTS does.

Preaching to the choir there, one thing I hated was changing my dick size in TiTS to to better fit different sexable characters, being too big for ones, too small for others, etc (is it 10 inches still the size with the most available content? I haven't played since they changed the engine.)

 

[A Burning Conscience]

That's up to player agency, you don't have to take or use the potion, or even if you do, you can still decline. Pretty consistent given that you can also turn down Kasyrra, as well.

Um, no, it's not a matter of player agency. Yes you can refuse both, but before there was NO sex content until Kas arrives, bringing it into the game/setting, that's a pretty decent bit of theming there. Now Cait introduces sex to the world... the character who has no bearing on the main plot save being the intro-npc who you no longer need to recruit (she even tells you to not bother trying to save her sister anymore, that's her quest, rendering the initial call to action null). For morons like me who enjoy our themes and read into things, it makes Kas even less important in how she's portrayed. Sex literally came with corruption and the arrival of Kas. Now sex comes from Cait getting hungry for some sausage.

TLDR: The writing was better when there was less of it, and Cait fucked it up

 

[Quintilus]

I mean he's got a point, MGQ is one of those games you enter and are like "came for porn, stayed for the story" (it also helps they add a gallery mode so you don't need to lose to see the sex scenes, aka: it respects it's story but also respects is a porn game and the player wants to get their rocks off.)

Dammit I cannot wait for part 3 of Paradox to be out and translated to FINALLY know the ending of that amazing story! 2028 gonna be a great year!

I have a feeling we arguing about different things now.

it's actually common to find npcs with no mention anywhere (except maybe in the code) of their absolute size. the reason for the difference i would guess is for gameplay reasons

I meant hide player absolute sizes behind "reality-distorting throbbing meat" descriptions, not npc one.

 

[zwere]

Um, no, it's not a matter of player agency. Yes you can refuse both, but before there was NO sex content until Kas arrives, bringing it into the game/setting, that's a pretty decent bit of theming there. Now Cait introduces sex to the world... the character who has no bearing on the main plot save being the intro-npc who you no longer need to recruit (she even tells you to not bother trying to save her sister anymore, that's her quest, rendering the initial call to action null). For morons like me who enjoy our themes and read into things, it makes Kas even less important in how she's portrayed. Sex literally came with corruption and the arrival of Kas. Now sex comes from Cait getting hungry for some sausage.

TLDR: The writing was better when there was less of it, and Cait fucked it up

I agree with Cait ruining the game out of principle, but I think you're pulling out the theming argument out of your ass. It's fine if you interpret it like that, but I doubt there was a conscious effort from the writer to evoke that theme with Kasyrra. Her appearance from the get go is simply meant to be a contrast to CoC1 where the main villain, Lethice, is just a name you hear about but never see the actual character until the literal last few moments of the game and that's that.

 

[A Burning Conscience]

I agree with Cait ruining the game out of principle, but I think you're pulling out the theming argument out of your ass. It's fine if you interpret it like that, but I doubt there was a conscious effort from the writer to evoke that theme with Kasyrra. Her appearance from the get go is simply meant to be a contrast to CoC1 where the main villain, Lethice, is just a name you hear about but never see the actual character until the literal last few moments of the game and that's that.

Sure you could be right, we've all pulled better stuff out of our arses than the writing for this game. It doesn't make it invalid however. It was better written before, and they didn't understand that. And unless any of us is Savin in disguise (looking at you Quin), or has a window into their skulls, this is all speculation and navel gazing.

 

[Lucky_I]

Preaching to the choir there, one thing I hated was changing my dick size in TiTS to to better fit different sexable characters, being too big for ones, too small for others, etc (is it 10 inches still the size with the most available content? I haven't played since they changed the engine.)

Its more of a volume thing but 12 and 2.5 is the most optimal

 

[Quintilus]

Sure you could be right, we've all pulled better stuff out of our arses than the writing for this game. It doesn't make it invalid however. It was better written before, and they didn't understand that. And unless any of us is Savin in disguise (looking at you Quin), or has a window into their skulls, this is all speculation and navel gazing.