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Archaon11111

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IDK about hating Cait I like her and her story
I like her mainly because she can fill roles for a male hetero PC,

Want to help Etheryn but not interested in shemales? Send Cait

Lose against an enemy and don't want to lose your anal virginity? Send Cait

Want to skip combat without pimping yourself? Send Cait

Same with Arona/Brint, they have content involved in just sicking them like pitbulls on targets.
 

Corootai

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I like her mainly because she can fill roles for a male hetero PC,

Want to help Etheryn but not interested in shemales? Send Cait

Lose against an enemy and don't want to lose your anal virginity? Send Cait

Want to skip combat without pimping yourself? Send Cait

Same with Arona/Brint, they have content involved in just sicking them like pitbulls on targets.
damn, this post gives me life. but it's so true, it's the main thing i do for my gay ass playthrough, romance Brint and when there's shemales and other encounters i'm not fond of. XD send cait XDDD
 

Megumin.

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Others have explained the various reasons but mine is that she one-ups my female pc. When she's there or talked about, she gets treated like the hottest bitch with the best pussy and best skills in the universe and my PC ends up looking like a turd or runner-up. And since she has a lot of scenes where she can prevent the PC from being dicked down after losing a fight it's even worse, because I don't want that lol. I want my PC to get her back broke, that's why I lost!

So basically Cait cockblocks my PC and makes my self-esteem worse. Just let me have this one thing Cait, jesus christ.
Couldn't agree more!
I remember noticing something was wrong when I got defeated by the effigie sisters and they acted like I'm an average at best catch...

Here's a quote from them commenting about my vagina: "Hmm... not good, but not bad either. I guess she'll do.

Nothing gets me more hot and bothered than knowing I'm nothing special LOL. What the hell is this shit?...
 
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Kallisto

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Is this for real? I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure she won’t be able to walk fine with ankles like that. Also if she were really that thick, her ankles would be thick too. It’s weird to look at one ankle that’s skinner than the other on someone that chunky. Just saying.
I don't know if that Cait pic is Moira's work, but as much as I like Moira's stuff over what the game started with, I absolutely can't stand when she draws a character with very thick thighs and then gives them a huge thigh gap (ex: that new cat demon artwork). It just looks so awkward and if your thighs are fat, they are going to be rubbing against each other all day. I assume it's a design choice so she can show off the pussy lips more but meh.

And yes, the tendency to draw huge thighs/tits/ass and then give them tiny ankles/calves or stick-waists annoys me. But then again I don't tend to like the over-exaggerated artstyles like Adjatha's from TiTS.
 

Sewyoba

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For everyone who doesn't want to drag Cait around, but still wants healing support, if you switch Etheryn's outfit to the Queenly Raiment (from the Winter City/Palace of Ice dungeon) she'll gain .
Ryn's also only heals, Cait casts something's sun and I think buffs a little? That makes Ryn literally a healslut while Cait is kind of a white mage
 
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NODOGAN

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Honestly i don't hate Cait (also i ain't even into anal since i'm kind of a clean obssesed guy) but what does bother me is not having the option to get that box full of Cait Kittens outside the dreams! what can i say? Impregnation is one of my fetishes and we literaly have a NURSERY right behind the Frost Hound Bar, "Pregnancy would hinder me in our adventuring" my ass! watch and learn as Brienne beats the crap outta Jotuns while sporting a big af preggo belly!
 

OofSs

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I don't know if that Cait pic is Moira's work, but as much as I like Moira's stuff over what the game started with, I absolutely can't stand when she draws a character with very thick thighs and then gives them a huge thigh gap (ex: that new cat demon artwork). It just looks so awkward and if your thighs are fat, they are going to be rubbing against each other all day. I assume it's a design choice so she can show off the pussy lips more but meh.

And yes, the tendency to draw huge thighs/tits/ass and then give them tiny ankles/calves or stick-waists annoys me. But then again I don't tend to like the over-exaggerated artstyles like Adjatha's from TiTS.
That Cait art was by DCL and not Moira. I like DCL’s art way more than Moira’s. DCL is also the guy who drew that Kass art for steam. Moira draws really nice faces, but she will sometimes make that same face syndrome mistake and make the lips way too plump like Liamme’s shou art. Still tho, she draws some pretty art, especially when it comes to males. I couldn’t agree more with you on the thigh part. Having big thighs may look hot but irl it’s a burden to have. Guess porn art will be porn art.

And yea, Adjatha is a hit or miss sometimes. He can draw something cute like Bizzy or something very exaggerated like the recent bar NPC busts (Except for the thargen, she looks badass) and the Twins dolls. He also isn’t accurate at times with character descriptions (most obvious one is my boy Gene’s) and the busts end up not looking like the characters at all. That’s why I like shou or jacque art the most because they are natural looking than Adjatha’s.
 
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Wipp

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I don't hate Cait but there's usually characters I'd rather have around. I made my character into a healer/buffer just so I could more freely swap companions
 

redcynic

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My general thoughts on Cait - and the author behind her - are much the same as my thoughts of Kiyoko - and the author behind her.

Namely, it feels like at times they should probably have been the actual protagonist(s) of the story, but Savin and co remembered that the point of these games is to have a (transformable/customizable) self-insert/waifu/husbando for the player instead.

Compare this to like, Brint. Brint's pretty cool. When he's in your party, as best I can recall, no one in the win/loss scenes slobbers over him and ignores you. Brint, as best I can recall, often has a lot of options to threesome on win scenes or NPCs but never like, forces it on you. Brint doesn't really constantly remind you He Fucks. You can date him and get into a relationship where he - multiple times - is sweet on you and says you are his best partner.

Brint even comes with a genderswap option who's much the same! So it's not even like, "oh Brint is a male character and Cait is a female character in a game about sluts"

If there's one good thing about Cait, it's that she seems to contain all of Savin's particular impulses and (arguably, I'm not really going to get in a debate over it but it's come up as an accusation so if its true I consider it restrained to within Cait's writing only) gripes against the more insistent/vocal fans of his characters from CoC1/TiTs. He made a character, she's super slutty, super sexy to the point everyone talks about it, she is Not Your Waifu, and she reminds you of these facts a lot. He hasn't seemed to do that with any other character he wrote.


Edit: On the whole Cait anal/NTRish thing, I'd argue it's not that its NTR - Cait is clearly a huge slut and isn't being stolen away from you because she's never Your Waifu to begin with. It's that it's kind of a pseudocuckoldry thing when Cait specifically says she will not let you do anal with her, and teases/hints that this could change in the future - this is clearly bait/hinting that this will be a Special Thing she shares with you. But then, in various loss scenes, she proceeds to have anal done to her and goes on to clearly and in detail enjoy this state of affairs. and then after she has her anal virginity taken by force, she still won't let you do anal with her. Then, to add a bit of extra spice, it's been mentioned by the writers that there IS planned to be special dialogue/changes in the scene where Cait eventually lets you do anal based on if its her first or not. Basically, "there is sex Cait will have that Only Other People get to do with her, never you" and that can remind people of NTRish vibes.
 
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Duarchy

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Does any one know the conditions for the new corrupted way to start the hive quest chain? I've beaten her in a fight over and over again, and nothing.
 

jordanvader02

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Sep 3, 2017
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Most of the MC's crew in TiTS fuck around. One girl is already in a relationship with someone else when she joins the crew and she's still in every bar on every planet picking up drunk fucks.
For me, Anno doesn't trigger the same NTR as Cait does, I didn't even really consider Anno NTR until I started reading this thread. I think the situation with Anno is a lot less... disrespectful(?) if that makes sense, like yeah you do see her in bars having drinks with guys and of course the intention is obvious but you have the option to go over and initiate sexy times, and its never in your face like with Cait, you never see Anno fucking another rando guy or ever hear her say anything about last nights affair with the guy she picked up. Cait, on the other hand, when I went to fuck her and she practically pulled out a contract stating "you're nothing special to me, you're just another dick to fuck on my epic quest to fuck everything on this planet" felt very... rude? almost? I'm not quite sure about Cait because I stopped playing then and there although reading this thread has given me more than enough information though.
 

andythehero

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Mar 25, 2018
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I like her mainly because she can fill roles for a male hetero PC,

Want to help Etheryn but not interested in shemales? Send Cait

Lose against an enemy and don't want to lose your anal virginity? Send Cait

Want to skip combat without pimping yourself? Send Cait

Same with Arona/Brint, they have content involved in just sicking them like pitbulls on targets.
Really? I just beat everyone up and do everything myself. Fucking elf girl with penis is also very fun, just wish she could be impregnated cause she's best waifu.
 

andythehero

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Mar 25, 2018
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For me, Anno doesn't trigger the same NTR as Cait does, I didn't even really consider Anno NTR until I started reading this thread. I think the situation with Anno is a lot less... disrespectful(?) if that makes sense, like yeah you do see her in bars having drinks with guys and of course the intention is obvious but you have the option to go over and initiate sexy times, and its never in your face like with Cait, you never see Anno fucking another rando guy or ever hear her say anything about last nights affair with the guy she picked up. Cait, on the other hand, when I went to fuck her and she practically pulled out a contract stating "you're nothing special to me, you're just another dick to fuck on my epic quest to fuck everything on this planet" felt very... rude? almost? I'm not quite sure about Cait because I stopped playing then and there although reading this thread has given me more than enough information though.
But I mean that's the story though. The world isn't really "christian" and she represents that. Look at every character and you'll see that they don't really mind either being raped or having multiple partners, or anything really. Hell they don't even think about relationship unless they swear themselves to each other such as the fox girl being only yours or the cat harem being only yours, and the elf girl being only yours too if not to join in with Cait. The thing that separates demons from the people of the world is how depraved they are. Cait said it herself that she has a deciding factor and that's consent. To me, Cait represents good and evil. If you're "good", then you're like Cait and just likes to fuck, WHICH IS WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT, and if you're "bad", then you're a prick that likes raping the fuck out of everything and sucking their souls out and making them in a literal sex demon. Again, this is a nsfw sex game and if you're playing to not have sex, then what are you doing?
 

jordanvader02

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But I mean that's the story though. The world isn't really "christian" and she represents that. Look at every character and you'll see that they don't really mind either being raped or having multiple partners, or anything really. Hell they don't even think about relationship unless they swear themselves to each other such as the fox girl being only yours or the cat harem being only yours, and the elf girl being only yours too if not to join in with Cait. The thing that separates demons from the people of the world is how depraved they are. Cait said it herself that she has a deciding factor and that's consent. To me, Cait represents good and evil. If you're "good", then you're like Cait and just likes to fuck, WHICH IS WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT, and if you're "bad", then you're a prick that likes raping the fuck out of everything and sucking their souls out and making them in a literal sex demon. Again, this is a nsfw sex game and if you're playing to not have sex, then what are you doing?
I don't really understand your post? I'm not commenting on the games story or lore but rather saying that I don't like Cait outright saying how "you're just another dick to me and I will fucking other men, even right in front of you" and how Anno doesn't feel that way to me, sure Cait may make more sense in perspective of the world, but in a porn game that is about you (the MC) fucking anything you want and being some special champion or whatnot, it certainly does raise some themes of NTR
 

redcynic

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NTR is specifically about a person who you are in a romantic relationship with being 'stolen' or 'corrupted' away from you by someone(s) else. Cait telling you the moment you ask to smash "okay but fyi i fuck other people and like doing it, you okay with that?" is the exact opposite of NTR - she's outright telling you she's a huge slut and she has a condition that she won't fuck people who aren't okay with that because it makes things awkward for her when people try stop her doing what she likes and is sort of supposed to do. For all Savin has some weirdness about Cait and her scenes, this bit does make sense (to me at least)

Remember, Cait's a holy/temple prostitute (This was a real thing historically, esp. with the sumerians, quite interesting to read about). Fucking is kind of her holy duty.

Though, as I mentioned in my rambling ass last comment, she has some weird vibes on the subject about her anal content (or rather, lack of.) That bit is the one that imho gives off some vaguely cuckoldish themes (because there, there IS some aspect of her 'keeping something special' and teasing/hinting the PC can be the one to recieve that special moment only to later have it 'taken' from her - and thus you, indirectly.)
 
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jordanvader02

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For me, her even saying her whole "I'm a massive slut" spiel before you even had the option to fuck her really irked me the wrong way and even feels a little to me like NTR or cuckoldry because, in porn games especially, I consider my followers as "mine" and I think most people feel that way as well
 
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