Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[muschi26]

Why? My eyes glossed over into two pages of her shit.

One word: Moira.

 

[RainbowConnection]

The game implies at the start you'll be able to change your name. Am I too dumb to find it or is that not actually an option?

 

[Skandranon]

The game implies at the start you'll be able to change your name. Am I too dumb to find it or is that not actually an option?

I think you can pay River to do it if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Wrynn13]

I mean as an individual i don't think much of tobs, however gwyn is okay, nihara works for me and while kohaku is literally what he and bubs believe Berwyn was, I still enjoy some/most of her content. Orb kiyoko and kinu were also quite good if my memory isn't failing me. I'm also okay with his non sexual work, like the dawnsword quest and the mushroom thing wasn't too bad. He's also one of the only writers whose content has adequate companion interaction for a game that forces us to have companions.

I'm not gonna bother stating negatives cause the list would never end, all I'm saying is that some of his work is okay or can be seen as somewhat good

Wait Tobs did the dawnsword stuff? I could have sworn Aly took credit for that.

 

[claralover]

I am once again asking the writers to add more Kasyrra scenes, you know the main antagonist of the game who has been absent for the past year at minumum.

 

[fixet]

when is the story supposed to move forward?

 

[NyaaRrar]

I am once again asking the writers to add more Kasyrra scenes, you know the main antagonist of the game who has been absent for the past year at minumum.

No, no, no. We can't have that, your character might have focus! The writers might have to prepare for the player to assert themselves again, what your party might even actually have to acknowledge the decisions you made. They have to continue with adding dead end plotlines, characters so that they will excuse themselves for not writing for your character's transformations or chosen party composition.

 

[Skandranon]

Wait Tobs did the dawnsword stuff? I could have sworn Aly took credit for that.

They both were on it.

 

[claralover]

when is the story supposed to move forward?

"story?" -savin

 

[Wrynn13]

They both were on it.

Okay that makes more sense. I knew I remembered her talking about the work she did on it. Back when I still had hope she'd do good work.

 

[Smopy]

I am once again asking the writers to add more Kasyrra scenes, you know the main antagonist of the game who has been absent for the past year at minumum.

The fact that Kasyrra hasn't received anything new in a whole fucking year is just depressing, I actually really liked the content tied to her.

 

[Looks at Monster Girls]

Even if Wsan's characters can be a bit samey I feel like he's still one of the better writers.

Wsan puts waaaaaaay too many words in the pc's mouth. I'm okay with a few direct quotes from time to time but ffs he pretty much robs you of any opportunity to roleplay. Your character is stuck being only as smart as the person writing it, and wsan's dialogue isn't very imaginative.

I remember one time in TiTs where he has the pc tell a girl that something she does is "hot as fuck". Hope you weren't imagining your billionaire playboy as a suave, high-class charmer, because dialogue like that completely destroys what you were going for.

 

[NODOGAN]

Wsan puts waaaaaaay too many words in the pc's mouth. I'm okay with a few direct quotes from time to time but ffs he pretty much robs you of any opportunity to roleplay. Your character is stuck being only as smart as the person writing it, and wsan's dialogue isn't very imaginative.

I remember one time in TiTs where he has the pc tell a girl that something she does is "hot as fuck". Hope you weren't imagining your billionaire playboy as a suave, high-class charmer, because dialogue like that completely destroys what you were going for.

For real, it takes away the immersion by substracting the player's imagination from the moment, hell something like You tell Cassia that time hasn't diminished her beauty is IMPLICIT ENOUGH for you to imagine the exact words YOU would say and fill in the blanks WAY BETTER than literaly saying "Ayo Milf I think you hot!"

Am I alone on this feeling? The feeling that in an RPG if the PC is meant to be a free canvas 100% personalized by the player then it should have AS MUCH IMPLICIT DIALOGUE AS POSSIBLE so the player can imagine what they would say in each situation? Only actually putting words in the PC's mouth on important moments where is very obvious what they are gonna say.

 

[Comiies]

Wsan puts waaaaaaay too many words in the pc's mouth. I'm okay with a few direct quotes from time to time but ffs he pretty much robs you of any opportunity to roleplay. Your character is stuck being only as smart as the person writing it, and wsan's dialogue isn't very imaginative.

I remember one time in TiTs where he has the pc tell a girl that something she does is "hot as fuck". Hope you weren't imagining your billionaire playboy as a suave, high-class charmer, because dialogue like that completely destroys what you were going for.

"Nice cock bro"

But im playing as a pure fem?!?

 

[Wrynn13]

Wsan puts waaaaaaay too many words in the pc's mouth. I'm okay with a few direct quotes from time to time but ffs he pretty much robs you of any opportunity to roleplay. Your character is stuck being only as smart as the person writing it, and wsan's dialogue isn't very imaginative.

I remember one time in TiTs where he has the pc tell a girl that something she does is "hot as fuck". Hope you weren't imagining your billionaire playboy as a suave, high-class charmer, because dialogue like that completely destroys what you were going for.

To be fair they all do that. Tobs will even go beyond putting words in the MC's mouth but thoughts in their head, generally to make them look like an idiot. "The MC looks around at all these oh so superior foxxen and thinks my what an uncultured swine I am." No Tobs, my Noble fucking Scion is not thinking that.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

"Nice cock bro"

But im playing as a pure fem?!?

"Nice metaphorical cock, miss"

 

[Hargan2]

To be fair they all do that. Tobs will even go beyond putting words in the MC's mouth but thoughts in their head, generally to make them look like an idiot. "The MC looks around at all these oh so superior foxxen and thinks my what an uncultured swine I am." No Tobs, my Noble fucking Scion is not thinking that.

Honestly, I haven't really paid attention to the actual content of the writing in years. I just sorta... skim the text and pick out the important bits. For sex scenes, I find myself tending to read the tooltip for whatever sex action I pick and then skim the scene, letting my imagination fill it in. Unironically improves my enjoyment of any given scene by a factor of at least five

 

[vesa0099]

necesito ayuda

1 cómo completar la búsqueda de Family Matters

2 cómo casarse con todos 3 en Brienne Cassia Rina

 

[M0nte]

Wsan puts waaaaaaay too many words in the pc's mouth. I'm okay with a few direct quotes from time to time but ffs he pretty much robs you of any opportunity to roleplay. Your character is stuck being only as smart as the person writing it, and wsan's dialogue isn't very imaginative.

I remember one time in TiTs where he has the pc tell a girl that something she does is "hot as fuck". Hope you weren't imagining your billionaire playboy as a suave, high-class charmer, because dialogue like that completely destroys what you were going for.

The way you described it feels like your problem is with how simple his dialogue is.

 

[Smopy]

For real, it takes away the immersion by substracting the player's imagination from the moment, hell something like You tell Cassia that time hasn't diminished her beauty is IMPLICIT ENOUGH for you to imagine the exact words YOU would say and fill in the blanks WAY BETTER than literaly saying "Ayo Milf I think you hot!"

Am I alone on this feeling? The feeling that in an RPG if the PC is meant to be a free canvas 100% personalized by the player then it should have AS MUCH IMPLICIT DIALOGUE AS POSSIBLE so the player can imagine what they would say in each situation? Only actually putting words in the PC's mouth on important moments where is very obvious what they are gonna say.

I agree everything you said, I feel the lack of choice in this game is by design because someone thought it was a good ideia to make a RPG without much freedom in dialogues, most of the time the "choices" aren't really choices, it's more "go to next page of this conversation" than a choice.

TiTS is similar in design but is more enjoyable, I don't know if it's because of the story, the content or the writers, I don't really know but CoC 2 feels more like you're reading a book that you're in but your "choices" don't really matter because that's only for the story to move forward or something (does that even make sense or I'm crazy?).

Look, I don't know if it's Wsan fault or Savin fault (probably Savin but idk how deep Wsan influence on this game is in regards to the development), but I think Wsan still the best (if not the only) writer of this game.