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harem.king

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1. shrug. they don't know what they are talking about either. calling a biological mother carrying her own child a "surrogate" is just stupid.

2. according to your link both sides of the argument are wrong.
as they describe surrogacy where no sexual intercourse took place (contradicting the other side), but the so called "surrogate" is the biological mother (contradicting me).
 

glygoch

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1. shrug. they don't know what they are talking about either. calling a biological mother carrying her own child a "surrogate" is just stupid.

2. according to your link both sides of the argument are wrong.
as they describe surrogacy where no sexual intercourse took place (contradicting the other side), but the so called "surrogate" is the biological mother (contradicting me).
It doesn't really matter, does it? You understand exactly which one the original commenter meant.
More importantly, the issue isn't how your MC feels about it, but rather how you feel about it.
The MC might call it a surrogacy, you might call it simply having children with someone else for contrived reasons.
As you have no say in this and presumably you also don't have a cuck fetish, it's very obvious how it could be upsetting.
 

harem.king

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It doesn't really matter, does it? You understand exactly which one the original commenter meant.
More importantly, the issue isn't how your MC feels about it, but rather how you feel about it.
The MC might call it a surrogacy, you might call it simply having children with someone else for contrived reasons.
As you have no say in this and presumably you also don't have a cuck fetish, it's very obvious how it could be upsetting.
True. It is a big kick to the balls to anyone who got invested in that character.
 

Skandranon

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1. shrug. they don't know what they are talking about either. calling a biological mother carrying her own child a "surrogate" is just stupid.

2. according to your link both sides of the argument are wrong.
as they describe surrogacy where no sexual intercourse took place (contradicting the other side), but the so called "surrogate" is the biological mother (contradicting me).
States have laws about it, the every medical website you can find about surrogacy talks about it...

What do you think gay couples call it when they use a woman to bear one of their children? It's still surrogacy.

The kind you're talking about has only existed since the 80's. Surrogacy as a concept has existed for centuries.
 

sdibolcrif

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1. shrug. they don't know what they are talking about either.
Yes, the organization dedicated to the concept of surrogacy doesn't know what surrogacy is, the random poster on a porn forum is the true expert. Checks out
 
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I gotta say, playing the kitsune content I honestly can't figure out if The Observer is a complete, utterly obsessive weeaboo - or if he absolutely detests Japan
An obsessive weaboo. His magnum opus, Kinu, pays homage to the thing that apparently made him a weeb, the Princess Maker series of games.

On the one hand, he's made the kitsune culture literally a 1:1 of feudal Japan (and to an extent even modern "traditionalist" Jap culture), and goes on and on and on and fucking on about it to the point where the average textbook is less of a boner killer
That's pure coincidence. He just writes like that in general.
 
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harem.king

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Yes, the organization dedicated to the concept of surrogacy doesn't know what surrogacy is, the random poster on a porn forum is the true expert. Checks out
> The mouthpiece of a random rich guy said something stupid. therefore it must be true.

State literally ANY of your opinions, and I can find you an "organization" that says you are wrong. Or another that says that you are right.

For example

In 1988, Lorillard, Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds set up . The Center, which was shut down in 1998, was eventually declared by the United States Department of Justice to have been set up to “ ” about the effects of secondhand smoke.
"Independent" organizations dedicated to study of air quality confirm that smoking is totes harmless.
 
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harem.king

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States have laws about it, the every medical website you can find about surrogacy talks about it...

What do you think gay couples call it when they use a woman to bear one of their children? It's still surrogacy.

The kind you're talking about has only existed since the 80's. Surrogacy as a concept has existed for centuries.
The word you are looking for is called motherhood.
A woman has semen sprayed into her vagina, which impregnates her with her own biological child. This is just called motherhood.

As for the court battle... yea, the big court battle over the so called "traditional surrogacy" determined that:
1. the so called surrogate is actually the mother.
2. custody goes to the biological father because of the contract between the mother and father saying the father gets custody.

this is a big reason why real (gestational) surrogacy is so popular.
because in a real surrogacy a woman carries a test tube baby that she is not the mother of.
 

sdibolcrif

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> The mouthpiece of a random rich guy said something stupid. therefore it must be true.

State literally ANY of your opinions, and I can find you an "organization" that says you are wrong. Or another that says that you are right.

For example


"Independent" organizations dedicated to study of air quality confirm that smoking is totes harmless.
Wow, rich folks out there funding entire groups promoting misinformation just for the sake of proving you wrong! I take it back, this random porn forum user is a bigger deal than I realized!

Mate I don't have a stake in (or know, or frankly even care) whatever the broader topic you're arguing about with the other dude is but boy is it hilarious how hard you're leaning into being confidently wrong on this particular point
 
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An obsessive weaboo. His magnum opus, Kinu, pays homage to the thing that apparently made him a weeb, the Princess Maker series of games.



That's pure coincidence. He just writes like that in general.
Hey man princess maker was one of my first too.They are good games that everyone should play smh.
 

Comiies

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How I've been playing the game for years. Frankly, I have no idea at all what the story is actually about, even though I've been playing it for so long.
I just know that i can either fuck kassyra or have to kill her and get fucked by Valkyries and idiotic gods.
 
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