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muschi26

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I get that futa characters are overrepresented due to the preferences of the people making this game and paying for commissions, and I'm ok with that. But is there any reason in particular for not giving more dickgirls a vagina too? It seems to me it would allow them to appeal to a broader audience (considering the vast majority of the population is straight) while still catering to people looking for futa content.
I can only speak for myself, but, as a straight man, I am not having any of my characters stick his dick in something else that also has (or once had) a dick, even if it has breasts or a vagina. Making more futanari as opposed to “shemales” would not broaden their appeal to me.

Edit: spelling.
 
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This is, after all, a game that is supposed to appeal to a broad audience. Futas with a vagina seem like an easy way to do exactly that, yet it feels like half of the latest updates are all about dickgirls with no vagina. Are there really so many people here who want that specific niche? Is it supposed to be for gay men who find vaginas icky?
I mean it's still the same thing at the end, it's like fucking a femboy yes they look girly but they are still dudes, giving a Vagina to dickgirls just makes them into Herms.

Hell this is even noted with one futa in TITS, Verusha, when she gets really comfortable and open with you she outright asks you to ignore her dick because she wanted to be treated like a woman again for once instead of a Herm (And she really likes dicking people due to trauma of her being abused since it's one of the ways she feels like she can control her life after her abuse iirc) and it's the first time you can dick her instead of being the one getting dicked, it's treated like a huge which because it is.

I do agree with what you are saying though, I do not like futas or that sort of thing but it does open some space for people who are not really into that still have the opportunity to try out some of their own kinks, and yeah it claims it's for everyone and broad audiences yet it feels like they are focusing more on the niche ones because it's the creator's own kink, again that would be more than fine if it wasn't for the fact they said it was for "broad audiences" lol.
 

arcader000

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Its just Savin's fetish I guess, almost every character that missed the memo on that the wo in woman is for womb is his. I haven't really kept track but its just Syri, Kaeda, Elf chick who I can never the name of, and now Hana right that qualifies for this specific fetish right? I can't think of any others that lack the vag.
Maybe he's just really into pre-op trans porn that's the only explanation I got but more power to him I guess.
 

RemiliaScarlett

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Basically what I said in Tits thread before getting some people angry at me :

they are already making variation of dickgirl character with 3 different flavors of dicks (with different art etc), why not just add 1 version with vagina so everyone can be happy ??

These are games about body transformation and stuff like that so why not allow everyone to get why they want, it wont be that much more work and it will feel much better for the average player.



But then I remember that people got angry that some console games got PC port, as if losing exclusivity to something made them less enjoyable and it is probably what is at play here :
People whose whole personality revolves around "the thing" (be it brand, console, sexuality, religion, music group, video game pretty much anything someone could gatekeep etc) and thus they need to restrict access to keep "the thing" "pure and unsullied" so they feel like "the thing" is important (how they justify it in their mind, what they truly seek is a form of artificial scarcity to increase their perceived value of "the thing").

In our case "the thing" is simply characters that are liked by players or interesting and should be made "exclusive" to some sexuality for some reason. (even though once again many characters could swap their genitals back and forth at a whim and it wouldnt take much work to have the arts done either)

anyways as I said on the other thread they are putting commissions before making a game (for players) which is why I don't think either game will ever see an end because they stopped being games the moment commissions got priority over the game as a whole. Now it's just circlejerk and we can just sit and watch in hopes someone commissions something that might have SOME content of interest to us (whoever us is, if you are into futa then you wont have to wait much, if you like M2M you might wait much more and if you like strong female without dick well in tits you are out of luck, in CoC2 surprisingly you have a few)

For instance I never felt issues with another game I enjoy (portals of Phereon) because 99% of characters can have the sex you want, just give them a potion and woop. What brought me to CoC/Tits was transformation fetish (which is very badly tagged in here, because M2F and for instance turning into a succubus/vampire/bimbo etc and very different set of fetishes but all tagged under transformation) and the gameplay which was actually kinda fun at times, some characters I liked a lot, others I couldn't give a F but having characters that you enjoy being locked into a certain sexual fetish and not being able to do anything about it (and having the devs literally mock you for not enjoying their fetish, im talking about TiT's Syri's and them throwing her vag at your face like "hey you wanted the vag, here it is, go fuck it yourself lol") is what makes people complain.

once again for the usual idiots that will undoutebly try to argue with me : I am not asking to remove futa or dickgirl content, I'm just asking to add 1 option for those who want non dick, but I know for those people asking for non dick is like having done a genocide or something like that (weirdly enough I noticed those people have their profile private for some reason xD)
 

Skandranon

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Alright, a lot of that was wild but this is weird


anyways as I said on the other thread they are putting commissions before making a game (for players) which is why I don't think either game will ever see an end because they stopped being games the moment commissions got priority over the game as a whole.
...what? Like...two writers do commissions. I think Wsan has done 1 in the whole 6 years this game has been running. Commissions are a tiny part of this game.
 

MoneyMan181

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Reminds me of Nonesuch comment in the Fenoxo blog in May 1th
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Personally I don't think Nonesuch is completely wrong, the ones honking their "clown" to futa stuff probrably do more consistent comissions and stuff, so they do give more money compared to straight or gay comissions.

The problem is that it ends up catering to just that one group, it essentially makes other groups check the games and other stuff because most of it is going to be futa, so I think it just gets stuck with 1 group only because they pay more so why bother with other comissions? (not to mention other groups not doing many comissions because there aren't really many things of their kink in the game so why would they bother if they don't know how well that content is written?)

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I almost completely disagree with nonesuch on a ridiculous metric such as 95% of porn being "heterosexual male focus". You look literally anywhere outside of regular porn shlock for 30 minutes and he's proven wrong. Christ I was looking for foot fetish stories on literotica and you wouldn't believe how many lesbian stories there were. That goes for literally every site where anybody can post porn. Nyl is one of the biggest animators and they exclusively make futa on female. There are literally fucking BILLIONS of posts of porn on the internet, you can find whatever you want in abundance if you search properly except for maybe the porn game market which is a lot of the same shit over and over again.

Also lmao at him saying there's any femdom(no, futadom doesn't count) in these games. I can count maybe a handful off the top of my head. Out of the hundreds of characters in these games, that's basically nothing.
 

Bloep

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I don't agree with nonesuch.
I am not sure this was ever true.
but even if it was, it certainly is not true in 2024.

LGBT stuff is everywhere nowadays and in massive amounts.

If we look specifically at games here on F95 (make sure you set ignored threads to show first):
total games: 17716 results
male protagonist: 11751 (66.33% of games allow playing as male)
female protagonist: 5492 (31% of games allow playing as female)
futa/trans protagonist: 475 (2.68% of games allow playing as futa MC)
futa/trans: 1595 (9% of games involve having sex with a futa/trans NPC)

of those 11751 with a male protagonist, 955 are gay. (8.13% of all male protagonist games)

if you take [male protagonist] games and exclude [gay], [futa/trans] NPC, and [netorare] you are left with 9154 results. which is already only 51.67% of the available content. A majority, yes. but hardly the 95% figure.
require it to actually feature vaginal sex and it drops down to 6103 results. which is 34.44% of the total.

if you do not exclude any tags. and only require that a game has only 2 tags [male protagonist] and [vaginal sex] and you are left with 7709 games (43.51%). but this could very well be a game of "you sit in the cuck shed while your wife has vaginal sex with chad or even a horse". Or a game like CoC2 which has all the tags.

Do LGBT or people who want to play as a male who is fucking futa/trans character have fewer options to pick from?
yes. there are fewer options.
But to say 95% of porn is for straight men is extreme hyperbole.
I feel like you are forcing your argument with excluding NTR and non vaginal. Like it or not, straight men have cuckold and anal porn as some of their top categories. Also, what would be LGBT about a guy playing a female protag game where she gets fucked by a bunch of guys? That's still just a dude whacking it off to old fashioned woman on man coitus. I think there is way more content for straight men than your post implies. And even then, i'm pretty sure Nonesuch is more so factoring in conventional porn as well, not just porn games.
 

Azriel Satan

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I feel like you are forcing your argument with excluding NTR and non vaginal. Like it or not, straight men have cuckold and anal porn as some of their top categories. Also, what would be LGBT about a guy playing a female protag game where she gets fucked by a bunch of guys? That's still just a dude whacking it off to old fashioned woman on man coitus. I think there is way more content for straight men than your post implies. And even then, i'm pretty sure Nonesuch is more so factoring in conventional porn as well, not just porn games.
Scat porn can also be straight but that doesn't mean most people like it.
Bestiality is technically straight but that sure as hell doesn't count.
 

Bloep

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Scat porn can also be straight but that doesn't mean most people like it.
Bestiality is technically straight but that sure as hell doesn't count.
Yeah well he's specifically talking about lgbt porn vs straight porn.
Futa scat porn also exists, but you don't see me arbitrarily not labelling it as futa simply because i don't like it.
 

Comiies

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Now that the shit postings out of the way.

My problem stems not from the fact that a specific fetish is over-represented or under represented.It sucks that we dont have more femboys but thats not the issue.The real problem comes not from the amount of content being written,but from its quality.Many people wouldnt have as much of a problem they have with futa if instead of "random 3 scene fling character" there existed more fleshed out characters with personalitys other than sheer sexual prowess.Now while i also love these kinds of characters,there is a time and place for them.Plus who says you CANT make a compelling character,with a personality,past,motivations etc that is ALSO hyper dominant sexually?Its all a quality problem.
 

harem.king

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Yeah well he's specifically talking about lgbt porn vs straight porn.
Futa scat porn also exists, but you don't see me arbitrarily not labelling it as futa simply because i don't like it.
1. it isn't "just because I don't like it".
I would have filtered a lot more things if it was just for dislike.
For example, while I utterly loathe femdom, I recognize it as heterosexual sex.
But if your game has ZERO vaginal sex then it is not heterosexual sex.

2. Context.
If you had paid some attention, I was explicitly refuting a copypasta by nonesuch
So, I was not just refuting a claim of "95% of all porn is heterosexual" but also several other qualifiers by nonesuch.
Such as "male is on top" and "male is object" and "female slathered".

Actually. I really should have filtered out femdom since it goes against the "male is on top"
 

Bloep

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1. it isn't "just because I don't like it".
I would have filtered a lot more things if it was just for dislike.
For example, while I utterly loathe femdom, I recognize it as heterosexual sex.
But if your game has ZERO vaginal sex then it is not heterosexual sex.

2. Context.
If you had paid some attention, I was explicitly refuting a copypasta by nonesuch

So, I was not just refuting a claim of "95% of all porn is heterosexual" but also several other qualifiers by nonesuch.
Such as "male is on top" and "male is object" and "female slathered".

Actually. I really should have filtered out femdom since it goes against the "male is on top"
Nonesuch literally has blowjobs as an example of male on top hetero. I don't know what your argument is then, because it's not against Nonesuch's point. Not counting acts like anal, fellatio (literally anal SEX and oral SEX) as non sex acts is wild to me. Also "job" can be slang for sex acts. Titjobs, handjobs, blowjobs, for example.
If what you actually mean is simply penis in vagina sex, then just say that, because anal sex can absolutely be hetero sex.
 

Skandranon

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correct.
1. you literally said it yourself, it is focused on blowjobs, not heterosexual sex.
2. kissing is kissing, jobs are jobs, sex is sex.
3. You do realize men can suck dick too?
Oral sex is still sex. Right there in the name.
You do realize you could filter gay out too? Its a tag.
 
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