Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[j_ericson]

Citations, sure. Coherent arguments, none at all.

You are posting years old posts and saying that they say something other than is written.

Kinu's initial pitch was as a spite project to mess with people who were still freshly upset about helspawn incest, but everything after that was just tobs writing his own malformed princess maker game. He wrote several books worth of content for her in his free time, and despite what this forum shows, that is not something only spite can fuel.
You can just say you dislike his writing. It's not hard.

Mods are banned because this isn't wild west internet anymore. Anyone can get their content into the game, so long as they stick to the rules of the people actually making the product. And as painful as it can be to get called out for bad writing, that's just how learning works. Try again later. I tried to submit several times and got rejected for reasons that became obvious when the reviewers pointed them out.
As for circumnavigating the review process to get banned content into the game. Banned content isn't just pedoshit. It includes watersports, blood play, scat, parental incest of any age, etc. Even they complain how patreon doesn't let them have actual blood sucking vampires in the game so they made her a cumpire, so you're in the same company.
They are a company, it is their product and they don't want it associated with certain things. This game is called coc2 because that was the easiest way to get the project off the ground, not because savin really missed the original and wanted it brought back in all it's unrestricted glory. But if you're so determined that a name should determine the product I don't know what to tell you.

 

[NODOGAN]

Pretty sure there is no sex scene with either the prince or princess, just flirting. Not sure if you can fuck the king because no thank you.

Huh...I got trolled by browsing the images folder and seeing both her naked ass & adventurer "disguise" apparently!

 

[SirJahar]

Ah yes, "submit to the review process".

Because the writing team is flush with trust. Because the team is oh so known for taking add-ons to existing characters in good faith.

And on Kinu? She's badly implemented, out of place, and the lack of player agency in whether or not we see her content, let alone where it goes, pisses people off in a GAME. Players got invested because she has her growing-up scenes, and then get smacked in the face by either version of her adult form when they go to progress that storyline. There's also the tonal whiplash of how Kiyoko treats you one on one verses how you're talked to in the rest of the scenes.

You're coming off holier than thou, and know it.

 

[NODOGAN]

Gotta say I quite enjoyed Livrea's added quest...because it let me steal Cornered Beast & Dragon's Breath from the Sea Wyrm (I don't remember where else I stole the other lightning at-will spell Berserker Atugia learns but I DO KNOW I stole it somewhere else, meaning now I can have Brienne & Arona with me on the Gweir quest to steal both their powers with Mirror Stance)

If only there was a way to steal Cait's frozen powers without having to take her on Gweyr quest, then my obsessive-compulsive ass would be at-peace knowing I stole all learnable powers in the game.

 

[QuedzaDrake]

Someone said this before (im paraphrasing pls dont crucify me) on this very thread:

"dont atribute to malice something that can be atributed to incompetence"

frankly the only reason why we even talk about CoCII is because the first game was sorta influential and this game showed promise at the start (back when the corrupted centaur village and the corrupt hive were added)

i honestly believe they had a plan at the start (one which i and other people liked) and by incompetence or laziness they failed to deliver and slowly replaced by what they wanted to write, which some people like and others dont

for example, my problem with this game is that Corruption means nothing for the gameplay, is inconsistent between writers and generaly feels flat, obviously they didnt intend on that but we ENDED UP with this because nobody was interested on Corruption enough to flash it out, and while i still HOPE they keep adding to it and possibly overhaul it (i am here on this forum after all) buy at the current state and rate i THINK its more likely they will keep it as it is.

i HOPE it gets better but with the track record of meh updates
i KNOW it will stay the same if nothing changes

and that's why im here in this stupid thread

 

[Nidabutt]

For herm/futa i find most of it sub-par content that is just and overly blatant excuse for a character to be a vehicle for their preferred fetish. And yes this is a porn game and a character can be a decent character for a porn game and be a vehicle for their preferred fetish, those aren't mutually exclusive.

Perfect example that is still newish is Kalysea that new centaur dom
a herm/futa that doesn't use their pussy in anyway and forces eating ass, anal where there is so much cum makes your pc throw it up [why isn't this optional?], and sucking on their balls [i think this one is optional one instead, wtf?].

Kalysea has a over sized dick that the player that has a ring that the player spent items on to make and a pussy, instead they make the PC jump to eating horse ass. Eating pussy or sucking dick not even an option. PC doesn't even fingerbang them of give them a reach around in the ball [i think] or eating ass.
And somehow Kalysea has no random dick sucking scenes while walking around or has and scenes for players with a pussy. And on top of that they have scenes with them fucking other characters pussies.

This is why this game is ridiculous, can't focus on their own themes or do them right for a game.

Most coherent F95 CoC2 comment.

She doesn't even have a pussy and most of her scenes involve sucking her dick, including travel ones.

 

[Nidabutt]

Just finished Kalysea content, and gosh darn it why did they made it a bad end. It was soo good, and for some reason Wsan just decides to turn it into a full blown evil mind break

Bad ends are non-canon, that's why they're called bad ends. Basically what-if scenarios for if you fuck up. In this case, you have to spend weeks being trained to be Kaly's obedient cocksleeve while effectively abandoning your party and quest.

 

[Nidabutt]

There's plans to make a softer submission route that will not result in a bad end. I don't think it's coming anytime soon though.

More that the PC just has to not give in to their desires to the point their mind is irreparably horsecock-brained, holding out will open up future content. I wont spoil things though. ^^

I'm still totally open to alternative routes with Kaly (like subby Kalysea) but I don't have the money to be commissioning that much writing, I can just about afford the stuff I'm getting currently. I'd be more than happy for people to submit their writing or get writing commissions of their own for her, with the usual procedures of course.

 

[Walk Cycle]

More that the PC just has to not give in to their desires to the point their mind is irreparably horsecock-brained....

I don't quite follow

 

[Nidabutt]

I don't quite follow

The bad end is basically the result of the PC being unable to control their desires and giving into Kaly's idea of training them away from the party to be her own cocksleeve.

New content will be separate from this ending following the canonical path of her story with the PC. ^_^

 

[Skandranon]

Lots of examples.

Like...half of what you said is just stuff this forum randomly made up out of boredom. And I'm pretty sure you know that at this point.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Which backfired because the target of the spite thanked them for including him in their game as Hirrud.

For real?
I wonder if you'd get a character for pissing Savin off now, sounds fun.

 

[Biostar]

Kinu's initial pitch was as a spite project to mess with people who were still freshly upset about helspawn incest, but everything after that was just tobs writing his own malformed princess maker game. He wrote several books worth of content for her in his free time, and despite what this forum shows, that is not something only spite can fuel.
You can just say you dislike his writing. It's not hard.

I might believe that if every aspect of her post-amulet content wasn't aimed at specifically downplaying you, in-game and in discussions on the forums by Tobs. Douche even added a talk scene about the engagement way after the fact to further drive the point even more you were insignificant. Framed people who disliked how disconnected we were from all this into us wanting her being dependent on us, as if you have to be smothering to care who your teenage daughter gets engaged to. At the same time ignoring the walking double standard that is Kiyoko. Hate that guy.

 

[thecatcameback]

For real?
I wonder if you'd get a character for pissing Savin off now, sounds fun.

You'd have to sass them constantly without ever getting baited, like Hired Gun did. I think they'd just likely ban you these days instead of bothering.

 

[Deleted member 1368228]

I know this thread is tired of futanari doms, but I would kill for an update where I could just get double teamed by Alissa and Gytha in Wayfort.

 

[Mihael]

More that the PC just has to not give in to their desires to the point their mind is irreparably horsecock-brained, holding out will open up future content. I wont spoil things though. ^^

I'm still totally open to alternative routes with Kaly (like subby Kalysea) but I don't have the money to be commissioning that much writing, I can just about afford the stuff I'm getting currently. I'd be more than happy for people to submit their writing or get writing commissions of their own for her, with the usual procedures of course.

Just wanted to say thanks for komissioning her content, but yeah, looking forward for a non-bad end content. Just for me it felt more like she all of a sudden turned evil and turned PC into her full blow brain dead slave

 

[Pandect]

I might believe that if every aspect of her post-amulet content wasn't aimed at specifically downplaying you, in-game and in discussions on the forums by Tobs. Douche even added a talk scene about the engagement way after the fact to further drive the point even more you were insignificant. Framed people who disliked how disconnected we were from all this into us wanting her being dependent on us, as if you have to be smothering to care who your teenage daughter gets engaged to. At the same time ignoring the walking double standard that is Kiyoko. Hate that guy.

It's a shill, just put him on ignore.

 

[Granberia]

I really wish the ghostlight strapon was implemented more like a, well, strapon. I expected the option to whip out a magic strapon that offers tactile sensation when needed à la TiTS instead of a futa transformation with a toggle. I don't want to have to constantly flick the thing off and on, but I also don't want to read about my pure female character spraying cum everywhere while penetrated or get defaulted to dick-haver over pussy-possessor options for scenes.

 

[Alterism]

But if you're so determined that a name should determine the product I don't know what to tell you.

I find fault with that

This game is called coc2 because that was the easiest way to get the project off the ground

This part I agree with. It was obviously a ploy with no intent on follow through.

But, I find it silly to state that a name should not influence expectations of a product when that name was what they were doubling down on to SELL that product. If I had a quarter for the number of times I saw "just like/in CoC1"
People didn't get the wrong expectations, that's what they were told the game would be.

The marketing of CoC2 from both it's reveals and the back and forth Savin and friends had with the community was that this was going to be more of that game with a fresh spin.

The page is mostly truthful.

To note, it IS technically a 'true sequel". As in it canonically happens after CoC2 and there the similarities end.

or I guess more importantly

We all know how much of a lie that also ended up being, heh.



For all of Fen's faults. TiTS was marketed pretty damn honestly.

And he built that house without selling false expectations of the content.
Though among all of this I find it funny that this one completely ignored post ended up being true.

That's all for me though. See you people next year or whatever.

 

[Skandranon]

And he built that house without selling false expectations of the content.

????

Like 50% of the promised content for TiTs doesn't exist, and will never exist.

In fact, TiTs situation is even worse: Fen ran a Kickstarter (well, an Offbeatr) promising a host of features that will never be in the game. TiTs is straight up funded off empty promises and false expectations and always has been.

or I guess more importantly

We all know how much of a lie that also ended up being, heh.

Not at all? When has CoC2 taken dev time away from TiTS? In fact, its the exact opposite, considering Savin is now running and writing for TiTs, its taking significant dev time away from CoC2.