Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Belphegor007]

I still believe a lot of the hate for the game would have never occurred if out character had agency and we had the ability to role play.
The complaints about content or characters would still exist, but would be simply minor annoyances instead of massive hindrances to enjoyment.

Sure we pick how our characters look, our background, and class but is that really all a rpg is?
For someone who based their game of a DnD game we essentially play a game run by a shitting DM who makes his pet NPCs take the center stage, but hell at least in a tabletop setting you could control what you say.
The Mass Effect dialogue wheel, Voice Hawker in DA2, and Fallout 4's four versions of saying yes still allowed one to choose our tone when choosing and option or personality of the character while we are a boring schizophrenic idea of a character who changes depending how the author wants us to act with their character.

I'm not asking for major branching paths, but the ability to at least give my character personality in various ways to answer or interact with people and quests. Just asking for minor dialogue changes and for authors to stop making our character their mouthpiece.

 

[Belphegor007]

Because that's the goal.

Both him and Taka were designed to be hated. The plan was clearly to give both some kind of "redemption", turning them into someone likeable. You can even see the beginning of it in his Atugia quest.

Unfortunately, Bubbles and his massive penis were consumed by rabid wolves, so who knows what'll happen.

He failed from the offset by making them another long list of characters who disrespect your character and are fuckups who despite that have large amount of people the love them with the drunk dipshit fox being the worst.
Being the biggest douchebag in a game filled with them doesn't make one want to see them grow or get redeemed.

 

[M0nte]

Just out of curiosity, why does almost everyone who talks about quint here hate him? Is it his dialogue, sex scenes or his quest involvement?

Look, there are many reasons why people dislike him but I do not think that is the problem here. Many people here dislike Arona and Kiyoko, yet they still have fans. Quinn, in contrast, does not.

The biggest problem he has right now is that he does not have bottoming content. That's it. Most of people here play as guys. We have dicks. We want to use them. Quinn refuses to bottom, despite being a bunny prettyboy, which either leads to disintrest in whatever he offers or puts his flaws to the forefront. Imagine if Arona did not have bottoming content -- that would immidietly kill most of playerbase interest in her.

Unfortunatly, he will probably never recieve an expansion where we can top him considering he does not have a writer.

 

[Alterism]

Both him and Taka were designed to be hated.

Taka was meant to be hated. Quin was some whacky hodgepodge of writer self insert fuckery and Bubs trying to make some story where Quinn is the big hero proving himself to other people (and the player not to be confused with the player character)

But like every other writers pet. The path Quint would have taken would have been...
I mean...

The biggest problem he has right now is that he does not have bottoming content.

IIRC he was never meant to ever be that kind of character.

And hell while I'm editing this. Let's just answer the question

Just out of curiosity, why does almost everyone who talks about quint here hate him? Is it his dialogue, sex scenes or his quest involvement?

The image that DCL made for him sucked. The character read terribly ("tell me about Tolus" "Never",) and was some half assed wanna-be Cassanova who was written to flirt with all the girls. If you didn't like NPC x NPC, Quint was meant to facilitate nothing but that.

And for me personally? I'm not into dudes. And am even less into dude self-inserts

 

[Belphegor007]

Taka was meant to be hated. Quin was some whacky hodgepodge of writer self insert fuckery and Bubs trying to make some story where Quinn is the big hero proving himself to other people (and the player not to be confused with the player character)

But like every other writers pet. The path Quint would have taken would have been...
I mean...

IIRC he was never meant to ever be that kind of character.

And hell while I'm editing this. Let's just answer the question


The image that DCL made for him sucked. The character read terribly ("tell me about Tolus" "Never",) and was some half assed wanna-be Cassanova who was written to flirt with all the girls. If you didn't like NPC x NPC, Quint was meant to facilitate nothing but that.

And for me personally? I'm not into dudes. And am even less into dude self-inserts

Why do we even have a playable character?
Fuckers should have just made a game where we controlled their premade OCs as a party if this is what those dumbasses want.

 

[Belphegor007]

Taka was meant to be hated. Quin was some whacky hodgepodge of writer self insert fuckery and Bubs trying to make some story where Quinn is the big hero proving himself to other people (and the player not to be confused with the player character)

But like every other writers pet. The path Quint would have taken would have been...
I mean...

IIRC he was never meant to ever be that kind of character.

And hell while I'm editing this. Let's just answer the question


The image that DCL made for him sucked. The character read terribly ("tell me about Tolus" "Never",) and was some half assed wanna-be Cassanova who was written to flirt with all the girls. If you didn't like NPC x NPC, Quint was meant to facilitate nothing but that.

And for me personally? I'm not into dudes. And am even less into dude self-inserts

Also I really do hope Savin is not so dumb to not only allow classes to be only be unlocked through Quint, but then also make it so that if you want to save any cultists then you need him as well.
Fucking Cait would be getting less favoritism then Quint at that point.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Why do we even have a playable character?
Fuckers should have just made a game where we controlled their premade OCs as a party if this is what those dumbasses want.

They couldn't parasitize on CoC brand that way. They needed an arbitrary customizable player ragdoll.

 

[GokutheG]

Taka was meant to be hated. Quin was some whacky hodgepodge of writer self insert fuckery and Bubs trying to make some story where Quinn is the big hero proving himself to other people (and the player not to be confused with the player character)

But like every other writers pet. The path Quint would have taken would have been...
I mean...

IIRC he was never meant to ever be that kind of character.

And hell while I'm editing this. Let's just answer the question


The image that DCL made for him sucked. The character read terribly ("tell me about Tolus" "Never",) and was some half assed wanna-be Cassanova who was written to flirt with all the girls. If you didn't like NPC x NPC, Quint was meant to facilitate nothing but that.

And for me personally? I'm not into dudes. And am even less into dude self-inserts

Wait so Q's writer is surprised that a former member of a sex cult that's been raping people and sacrificing others may be considered evil when he specializes in magic that screws with his victim's mind...

No wonder Savin was surprised with the perception that Cait's religion is a groomer religion.

The members of this development team man.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Taka was meant to be hated. Quin was some whacky hodgepodge of writer self insert fuckery and Bubs trying to make some story where Quinn is the big hero proving himself to other people (and the player not to be confused with the player character)

But like every other writers pet. The path Quint would have taken would have been...
I mean...

IIRC he was never meant to ever be that kind of character.

And hell while I'm editing this. Let's just answer the question


The image that DCL made for him sucked. The character read terribly ("tell me about Tolus" "Never",) and was some half assed wanna-be Cassanova who was written to flirt with all the girls. If you didn't like NPC x NPC, Quint was meant to facilitate nothing but that.

And for me personally? I'm not into dudes. And am even less into dude self-inserts

Man Bubbles is always so funny to read. This isn't the first time this is posted and won't be the last but it's always a blast.

The guy has his head so far up his ass he can see undigested shit. The arrogance to think he could make his super special oh so very important guy take all the spotlight and fuck everyone and fuck you and everyone would just be lining up for it. Even sub bottom peeps want to feel special, they want the character to fuck them for the most part.

Not his only creation to be such too. There's this unfinished story, Liutenant Jen or whatever, the one eyed girl. She has this prior commander we were meant to find one day, who is immortal and also fucks everyone and is super strong and also beats you up.

I know he doesn't write anymore and isn't particularly well liked with other develoeprs of the team also shitting hard on Bubbles in public chat (SavCo where every dev is well adjusted and professional), wonder if he will ever return.

Honestly I kinda think the game is basically winding down into maintenance mode at this point. The amount of content we get is far, far less than its first few years. Even Wsan basically admitted to it right before Brihaus.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

When did sentiment for this game and it's content sour for yall? For me I enjoyed the game more when we weren't able to even get past the guards to enter the tunnel to the minotaurs' city.

When I realized that asking a simple question like "what time is it?" Could lead to a history lesson on time, the thesis of it's creation, and the philosophy of the beings under it's rule. Like I get it. It's a text based game, there will be reading and a lot of it. But man it sometimes just went on and on. I understand she's horny, I know she's wet and ready, I know there's the smell of hot stank ass in the air. I got it the 1st time. What? No, I didn't know there were that many ways to say/describe a vagina in one sitting.

Like I swear I could just feel the writers stroking themselves while writing. But not to the porn that's being written. They getting off on word count and the type of language being using. They discovered a thesaurus and they bout to put that bitch to work! Vagina? PFFT! This is a muscular canal that connects the uterus to the outside of the body good sir!

This not to say that the writing is bad or some of the scenes weren't hot and descriptive. But some of it could've been toned down... a lot. But you know what? Maybe it's just maybe. Maybe I'm too hooked and phonics for such verbose reading.

 

[Yeppers34]

Man Bubbles is always so funny to read. This isn't the first time this is posted and won't be the last but it's always a blast.

The guy has his head so far up his ass he can see undigested shit. The arrogance to think he could make his super special oh so very important guy take all the spotlight and fuck everyone and fuck you and everyone would just be lining up for it. Even sub bottom peeps want to feel special, they want the character to fuck them for the most part.

Not his only creation to be such too. There's this unfinished story, Liutenant Jen or whatever, the one eyed girl. She has this prior commander we were meant to find one day, who is immortal and also fucks everyone and is super strong and also beats you up.

I know he doesn't write anymore and isn't particularly well liked with other develoeprs of the team also shitting hard on Bubbles in public chat (SavCo where every dev is well adjusted and professional), wonder if he will ever return.

Honestly I kinda think the game is basically winding down into maintenance mode at this point. The amount of content we get is far, far less than its first few years. Even Wsan basically admitted to it right before Brihaus.

Oh yeah Leofric, if you beat Jen five times she talks about how she's weak and this dude shows up knocks your ass out in one punch and calls you lame if you don't have high toughness or agility. Jen is such a wasted character, I really liked her design and she's such a prime corruption candidate with the whole chastity belt stuff but nope she just gets added to the forgotten npc pile.

 

[Belphegor007]

Oh yeah Leofric, if you beat Jen five times she talks about how she's weak and this dude shows up knocks your ass out in one punch and calls you lame if you don't have high toughness or agility. Jen is such a wasted character, I really liked her design and she's such a prime corruption candidate with the whole chastity belt stuff but nope she just gets added to the forgotten npc pile.

I remember that Leofric says you are the ones he's supposed to face but will do it later if you don't get hit.
I do hope he does show up later so we can beat his ass
I remember the shit show about him too, because we once again have some super powerful person chosen by a God back more important and stronger than you.

I will say that Savin did such a fucking awful job with the Gods in CoC2 as they are so utterly unlikable which is hilarious because he made Kas have some positive traits.

 

[Lord Kentus]

I do hope he does show up later so we can beat his ass

I strongly and strongly cannot be empathized here enough I feel, do believe with all sincerity that is never going to happen, its been sitting in the abandon pile for years now.

Barring a commission piece that prompts another writer to pick it up? Yeah no.

 

[zwere]

I've never done a tally and neither has anybody else. The big list I've seen are just NPC tallies.

I might dig it up to screenshot it, but I'm pretty sure the last time I saw Savin make a long post on the way they tally NPCs, they had really stupid metrics as well. Like, for example, if an NPC has variations (like getting a dick), they won't count that NPC towards the futa tally.

 

[Belphegor007]

I strongly and strongly cannot be empathized here enough I feel, do believe with all sincerity that is never going to happen, its been sitting in the abandon pile for years now.

Barring a commission piece that prompts another writer to pick it up? Yeah no.

I don't want sex I just want to punch him.

 

[Lord Kentus]

I don't want sex I just want to punch him.

And its essentially abandonware and the only way to convince another author to touch it I would imagine would be through money.

 

[Belphegor007]

And its essentially abandonware and the only way to convince another author to touch it I would imagine would be through money.

I'm not super beat up about it or care that much.
Honestly the author being gone is a much funnier revenge in some ways.

 

[Us3less]

Is Bubble actually gone for good? because good fucking riddance. Everything about that person, just like his content, makes me cringe.

 

[Skandranon]

I'm feeling kinda motivated!
I think I'm going to actually update this doc in my sig. Takes a bit and plumb the Discord and log upcoming content.

 

[Yeppers34]

I remember that Leofric says you are the ones he's supposed to face but will do it later if you don't get hit.
I do hope he does show up later so we can beat his ass
I remember the shit show about him too, because we once again have some super powerful person chosen by a God back more important and stronger than you.

I will say that Savin did such a fucking awful job with the Gods in CoC2 as they are so utterly unlikable which is hilarious because he made Kas have some positive traits.

Oh I would bet good money that if we ever do get to fight him it'll probably be next to impossible to win and if you do somehow win you'll probably get some bs scene where even though you won you and your party will be on the ground beaten and he'll probably say something generic like "not bad, but not good enough"