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Walk Cycle

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If they get too aggressive in taking over a character they would get less submissions. Most people are not exactly as open as Kalysea's commissioner where they gave their fiat for anyone to make and commission a sub route for Kaly. If the CoC2 policy becomes "mandatory sub routes for dominant characters and vice versa" people won't like it.

Besides you have Tobs on the fucking writing team. Are you really willing to take a gamble on having your OC being on the receiving end of that psychic vampire? Not only is your OC getting trapped in purple prose hell, there's a chance your OC's "sub route" will be 99% rape scenes.
 

Yeppers34

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Which is funny because fenoxo claimed, when he first ended coc, that the reason he is ending it is because he made the mistake of being to generous on the license he gave content creators. such anyone who submits an NPC is the sole owner of said NPC and they can't do anything to said NPC without permission from the owner. even though a bunch of such owners disappeared on them.
He claimed that in tits he would fix it such that he would be allowed to do whatever he wants to the characters.

To be fair though, regardless of license, the whales who are literally paying hundreds of dollars to have their precious OC DONUT STEEL fursona added to the game are not going to keep throwing money their way if they make changes without permissions.
Their fursona is a dommy 8 foot tall futa with a 2 foot long penis who ONLY puts the penis in the MC while being domme and nothing else. No you can't corrupt their fursona, no you cannot turn things around, no you cannot dedick them. That will upset the donor who paid for their fursona to be added to the game or the writer for whom it is a self insert.
To a degree i can understand that if someone commissioned a character they would want to approve any further content for that character. For example let's say i commissioned a childhood friend character in the minotaur city, all the content is pretty vanilla pretty much a PC exclusive character but then a couple of months later I play the game and I run into a scene where this character i commissioned is being passed around by a bunch of minotaur guards, I probably wouldn't be to happy about that.

*disclaimer i am not doing this, if something like this happens in game it was not me*
 

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To a degree i can understand that if someone commissioned a character they would want to approve any further content for that character. For example let's say i commissioned a childhood friend character in the minotaur city, all the content is pretty vanilla pretty much a PC exclusive character but then a couple of months later I play the game and I run into a scene where this character i commissioned is being passed around by a bunch of minotaur guards, I probably wouldn't be to happy about that.

*disclaimer i am not doing this, if something like this happens in game it was not me*
Having this for side characters who exist solely for sex seems fine, but if you plan to include any character that exists to be a major part of the story or location there really should be a clause where they are allowed to continue to add content with said character outside of x scenes/fetishes you choose to be off limits.
I do believe however you shouldn't include major characters that lack any flexibility or prevent the player to actually interact with them.

Ultimately the thing is the second you put this up for sale on steam this isn't some commissioned project or whatever, but a product for the buyer.
If you wanted this to be for commissioners forever you should have kept it behind Patreon.
 

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If they get too aggressive in taking over a character they would get less submissions. Most people are not exactly as open as Kalysea's commissioner where they gave their fiat for anyone to make and commission a sub route for Kaly. If the CoC2 policy becomes "mandatory sub routes for dominant characters and vice versa" people won't like it.

Besides you have Tobs on the fucking writing team. Are you really willing to take a gamble on having your OC being on the receiving end of that psychic vampire? Not only is your OC getting trapped in purple prose hell, there's a chance your OC's "sub route" will be 99% rape scenes.
Man I don't even have an OC. But reading their disclaimer on submissions in the forum. Even my stomach started to turn at the idea of allowing them the keys to something I made. Just sinking further as I read on. I mean yea, the MC energy having ass side characters are annoying as a player. And they could be protected without being so over the top. But after that brief midartist crisis I just went through... I get it. At least to a degree.

I'd rather my character be a superhero then a multiuse onahole.
 
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thecatcameback

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Kalysea is the best commissioned OC out the lot in all these games. A NPC tells you 'yo, this person is looking for you', then the OC comes up and greets your chara like a normal fucking person before asking if you're interested in helping them, and you can say yes or no. It isn't instantly locking you in or out at that point. No quest popping up and sticking in your log book forever at this point either. If you don't want to bother just never meet them.

Extra points for not making the quest auto trigger if you walk past their square too, you gotta click a button while standing on that spot. Very nice stuff. Positively saintly compared to the rest.
 
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Man I don't even have an OC. But reading their disclaimer on submissions in the forum. Even my stomach started to turn at the idea of allowing them the keys to something I made. Just sinking further as I read on. I mean yea, the MC energy having ass side characters are annoying as a player. And they could be protected without being so over the top. But after that brief midartist crisis I just went through... I get it. At least to a degree.

I'd rather my character be a superhero then a multiuse onahole.
Ok woof yeah finally found the commission rules on the forum, says it rarely happens but it would feel pretty shitty seeing an OC you made being used for something you didn't want them to do
 
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GokutheG

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Having this for side characters who exist solely for sex seems fine, but if you plan to include any character that exists to be a major part of the story or location there really should be a clause where they are allowed to continue to add content with said character outside of x scenes/fetishes you choose to be off limits.
I do believe however you shouldn't include major characters that lack any flexibility or prevent the player to actually interact with them.

Ultimately the thing is the second you put this up for sale on steam this isn't some commissioned project or whatever, but a product for the buyer.
If you wanted this to be for commissioners forever you should have kept it behind Patreon.
What commission characters have been important to the story? I know the important characters like companions and area leaders are written by staff/trusted writers but even a few of them have left for one reason or another.
 

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There haven't really been many characters commission in CoC2 at all I don't think. Can't remember where, but pretty sure a staffie said the number was less than 5%.
 
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Walk Cycle

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TiTS has more commissioned characters than CoC2. Mostly because Fen had them as rewards for supporters in the form of Fated Names. And even then it's not on the same level as a commissioned NPC. I think Doc Badger counts as one too, and we know what happened when she was implemented :KEK:

Anyways Skan, what did you think of the Tatoo scene? found it kinda short tbqh.

EDIT: Looking back I can't really count the Fated Names on the same level as something like Kalysea. These Fated Names were supposed to be for personal use, so not for regular users.
 
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What commission characters have been important to the story? I know the important characters like companions and area leaders are written by staff/trusted writers but even a few of them have left for one reason or another.
You know, I don't quite recall off the top of my head for coc2.

for coc1 I recall akabal. an ultra dominant male whose their commissioner refused to allow any turnabout which made people complain.

and for tits I recall doctor badger, a dominant futa. whose initial intro was that badger kidnaps, rapes you, and transforms you against your will. And there was literally nothing you could do. They spent weeks banning everyone who complained from their forums, before realizing they are going to end up banning most of their customers, so they finally relented and changed it so you can opt out OR turn things around.

I know there are way more. I just don't recall exactly who off the top of my head.
 
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You know, I don't quite recall off the top of my head for coc2.

for coc1 I recall akabal. an ultra dominant male whose their commissioner refused to allow any turnabout which made people complain.

and for tits I recall doctor badger, a dominant futa. whose initial intro was that badger kidnaps, rapes you, and transforms you against your will. And there was literally nothing you could do. They spent weeks banning everyone who complained from their forums, before realizing they are going to end up banning most of their customers, so they finally relented and changed it so you can opt out OR turn things around.

I know there are way more. I just don't recall exactly who off the top of my head.
You are remembering incorrectly, the problem with Badger was when she asked if you were a hero there was no warning about what would happen and they would bimbofy you.
You could always say no or read her dialogue where it was pretty obvious you don't want to say you are a hero.
All they did was add in a warning.
 

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Anyways Skan, what did you think of the Tatoo scene? found it kinda short tbqh.
I'll tell you when I get to it.

After nit having played for awhile, I erased all my saves to start from scratch, and I'm not back to KM yet.

That being said, I suspected it'd be pretty short. Longer stuff usually gets talked about a lot more for longer on the Discord, and Wsan has only mentioned this briefly like twice.
 

Belphegor007

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Damn I was under the impression that alot of these side NPCs were commissions, would have explained why alot of them sucked
It also makes the game look way worse because that means all the forgotten characters and meaningless ones were all their own fault.
 

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That being said, I suspected it'd be pretty short. Longer stuff usually gets talked about a lot more for longer on the Discord, and Wsan has only mentioned this briefly like twice.
Bit of a shame, tattoo stuff is kinda rare outside of slut simulators which rarely make it a focus either. Guess the Kalysea camp scenes used up too much of the horse cock budget, I can't complain too much though since those are pretty good too.
 

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Kalysea is the best commissioned OC out the lot in all these games. A NPC tells you 'yo, this person is looking for you', then the OC comes up and greets your chara like a normal fucking person before asking if you're interested in helping them, and you can say yes or no. It isn't instantly locking you in or out at that point. No quest popping up and sticking in your log book forever at this point either. If you don't want to bother just never meet them.

Extra points for not making the quest auto trigger if you walk past their square too, you gotta click a button while standing on that spot. Very nice stuff. Positively saintly compared to the rest.
Except there's no warning what helping her would entail. When she was first added I thought, "Sure, why not, happy to help." Then I got brainwashed into her cock slut out of the blue with no warning or choice in the matter.
 
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thecatcameback

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Except there's no warning what helping her would entail. When she was first added I thought, "Sure, why not, happy to help." Then I got brainwashed into her cock slut out of the blue with no warning or choice in the matter.
Ayup. That's a constant problem with these games. I never engage with new content until after I've seen others' reactions. Helps me dodge stuff like that.

Kalysea is still one of the better executed ones though, which is pretty :whistle:
 
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