Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Daken9]

What doesn't feel like a Sue on the whole game? Forp Pete's sake we are just an expectator on Corruption "My kink gallore and fuck you player because I'm not there" of Champions
Nothing in that game can be felt as organic or well made/written.

It's why them writers should stick to basic stuff, like Wsan and a few others do, unless they're willing to give a lot of wiggle to the player (choices) and/or Savin decides to implement something of a personality system (like in TiTs).

Which, y'know, admittedly not ideal, but way better than everyone reducing the player character to a NPC to be used and abused to enhance their own.

 

[throbzombie]

I hope someone else does new Agni busts because this "Anon" guy's stiff sucks.

 

[qorl55]

I hope someone else does new Agni busts because this "Anon" guy's stiff sucks.

Agni's looking fine, at least she's proportioned like a real human being

 

[TunaFate22]

Who is Agni?

Bird companion

 

[Daken9]

That is not how I read it at all. The narration even admits she gave a "pretty good zinger" and it wasn't. It seemed more like her throwing a tantrum at the thought someone didn't want to fuck her. Maybe some of the narration is from her perspective, but I still feel it really pushes her as the... for lack of a better term, "alpha" in the conversation.

To be honest, i'm 90% sure she's just another domme futa in disguise. I'll admit to not having read her dickened stuff in its entirety, 'cause frankly my champ is the goddamn Hulk and what little i did already gave me some mental images i'm not partial to, but just the length and descriptions of them scream that to me, especially considering how B wrote both the Champion (quite meek) and how dominant she is even her regular scenes (like even doggy-styled in the ass, what the hell ).

 

[Daddums]

Then any npc in Hawkethorne or wherever could be a shapeshifted demon, and you don't suspect them of being demons.

Exactly. Trust no one.

Not even Garth. I sure as fuck don't after they let Gweyr back in so easily. Which is another character we don't get call their shit out on. Apparently he was fine dicking a mass child murderer. You'd trust that? You're starting to look pretty suspicious now too...

If a demon queen vowed to steal your soul, at that point your suspension of disbelief is probably really high. That insistent disbelief is a movie trope, if I literally saw a vampire flying I'd probably believe it irl, and unlike the champ I'm not in a world of magic and monsters. A bird woman sponatenously combusted, turned to ashes, you put her ashes in a fire, a firebird woman rose from them - it's a phoenix, case closed. Not even that special. If anything, the Champ trouble with wrapping their head around this is silly, what's there to understand?

I don't think you'd believe you saw a person flying in the sky. You'd think it was something else. Or if it's in a bat form you'd just think it was a bat. It also doesn't sound like phoenix are a particularly well known harpy, it may very well be they were thought extinct. It'd be like seeing a walking talking dinosaur. I don't think the guys that caught a coelacanth originally thought what they had could possibly be what they thought it was. You hit disbelief pretty hard when something big happens. Like winning the lottery, it takes a bit for it to sink in and then you're hopping all over the place.

Maybe I was reaching a bit myself, but I really wanted to make a dig at Phoenix, AZ while I was at it. Place is a hellhole. As soon as an actual phoenix combusts back into life there it'd just burn back into ashes. A cycle of tragedy really.

Okay yeah the zinger wasnt good(just untrue cuz npcs inexplicably throw themselves at the MC), but otherwise...Since the narration deliberately said she got very irritated if you refuse her, she's quite explicitly throwing a tantrum. And some characters are shy and submissive, some are neutral, some are an alpha bitch - which is fine?

Except you don't really get to challenge her attitude. You're more or less forced to go with it which is silly. Especially if you're a high corrupted character because you're supposed to be an edgelord in your dialogue with that. You'd be in a pissing contest with her immediately. The entire temple would be drowning in it.

Even Arona gets to be put in her place. Freaking Arona. Who also has to come to your rescue apparently because you're suddenly not the guy who beat the shit out of a demonic princess, but the guy that can't tell a horny fire parrot to stop repeating itself.

 

[qorl55]

I don't think you'd believe you saw a person flying in the sky. You'd think it was something else. Or if it's in a bat form you'd just think it was a bat. It also doesn't sound like phoenix are a particularly well known harpy, it may very well be they were thought extinct. It'd be like seeing a walking talking dinosaur. I don't think the guys that caught a coelacanth originally thought what they had could possibly be what they thought it was. You hit disbelief pretty hard when something big happens. Like winning the lottery, it takes a bit for it to sink in and then you're hopping all over the place.

Except you don't really get to challenge her attitude. You're more or less forced to go with it which is silly. Especially if you're a high corrupted character because you're supposed to be an edgelord in your dialogue with that. You'd be in a pissing contest with her immediately. The entire temple would be drowning in it.

Even Arona gets to be put in her place. Freaking Arona. Who also has to come to your rescue apparently because you're suddenly not the guy who beat the shit out of a demonic princess, but the guy that can't tell a horny fire parrot to stop repeating itself.

I think the difference with Arona she tries to fight you and fuck you - that's plenty provocation. Agni's just pestering you like "c'mooooon fuck with me already".
As for the vampire I meant like literally clearly seeing a human-sized terrifying flying monster bat with bloody fangs, or a living velociraptor, I'd run and bunker down at home till that gets sorted out. I've seen all the monster movies where the skeptic dies horribly, that's not gonna be me okay.

 

[Biostar]

This is making me wish for that mousegirl companion even more...

 

[Raf-Raf]

Huh, I just saw the mouse villain's full pic for the first time and realized that they're a guy.
I thought it was a she until I saw the third leg...

 

[qorl55]

That reminds me of that one scene in American Dad with Terry's father. Terry's dad is watching straight porn and looks to Stan - under the assumption he was gay - saying, "I bet you only like this 50%. Well I like it 100%!"

I just kept thinking that meant he was bisexual.

Welp, if someone gets aroused by dicks also, they get aroused by dicks also I guess

 

[M0nte]

I think that Cait being a girl actually helps her at least on that front considering that majority of audience consists off is straight guys. Imagine Cait personality on a guy. Free spirited playboy fucking everything he sees and every NPC falling head over heals for them.
Well, I do like those kind of guys in fiction, so I would probably prefer it.

 

[Daddums]

I think the difference with Arona she tries to fight you and fuck you - that's plenty provocation. Agni's just pestering you like "c'mooooon fuck with me already".
As for the vampire I meant like literally clearly seeing a human-sized terrifying flying monster bat with bloody fangs, or a living velociraptor, I'd run and bunker down at home till that gets sorted out. I've seen all the monster movies where the skeptic dies horribly, that's not gonna be me okay.

Oh, so you mean like the mutated bats from the 1999 movie Bats. At that point I'd blame the government, I wouldn't think it magic or a vampire. It's just science gone horribly awry as it often does.

And what I meant by Arona is exactly what you said. She fights you to fuck you, she has more hutzpah than Agni and yet we can call her shit out and dom the fuck out of her. We don't really get that here with Agni and she's not half the bully Arona was -- and I tamed Arona. Why the fuck would I let Agni of all people have a high horse? Even Arona - my subby little breeding factory - can put Agni in her place, but my character won't shut her down. This is where Savin fails as a project leader, there's no coherence or consistency between any of the characters. They all write their own little Sues of varying degrees and you get disjointed MC responses because of it.

Maybe you're right earlier and we get to bring her down to be more humble and this is all just her own defense mechanism dealing with the fact she's lived countless lives, but that still doesn't change the fact we don't get to override her on any of it and we act like... well not simps since we're obviously banging her, but something close to it around her.

That's my only real issue with the whole thing. She's an arrogant bitch, but we'll see what comes. My only issue is that our character is being dictated again as it so often is. We're the typist and they're the people telling us what's happening, we don't really get to decide how our character reacts and to be honest? I'd be snarky as fuck with her. I'd be ribbing her as she seems a primo target to tease the hell out of, but no... I don't get to do that. The narration is that I'm pussywhipped with her and just nod my head and say, "That's nice, dear." but with sincerity instead of the aforementioned snark.

 

[qorl55]

Oh, most certainly more. I think that Cait being a girl actually helps her at least on that front considering that majority of audience consists off is straight guys. Imagine Cait personality on a guy. Free spirited playboy fucking everything he sees and every NPC falling head over heals for them.

If male Cait was almost exclusively fucking futas or dudes, I think they'd care less

 

[RenH]

If male Cait was almost exclusively fucking futas or dudes, I think they'd care less

Depends. Would male Cait also be the strongest healer in the group, therefore denying you the chance to replace with someone else unless you also go healer?

 

[M0nte]

If male Cait was almost exclusively fucking futas or dudes, I think they'd care less

Than he would not be a male Cait.

 

[qorl55]

Than he would not be a male Cait.

W...why? Cait primarily fucks those two groups

 

[Alfred Nonamous Esq. LXIX]

Never took Cait seriously as a character, she's both figuratively and literally a Healslut lmao.

Also, anyone got the new update, preferably for Android? Kinda wanna see the new character, was thinking it was an expansion of Harpy Wingleader but I guess it's an entirely new character that fills the role of haughty muscled redhead birdlady? If they ignore the Harpy waifu for this new character we better be able to breed her like the other...

 

[arls120]

I'm here waiting for them to give me some brint content or some gay content and that I get to see how cait sucks all the minotaurs and in fat, content of the fortress that is worth nothing.

I said it and I will say it again this is the fucking city of the minotaurs and we have a fucking minotaur partner who is one of the best male partners and one of the best male content, it would not be logical to upload an update focused on him and that for love God is not how you fuck his sister or his mother (at least they would have put the father or a cousin maybe a neighbor) and much less how they rape him if you lose the fight.

Well back to the subject of cait if she were a boy ...... well you don't have to think about such dark things. At the beginning I saw Cait as a friend addicted to sucking cock until I realized that she kept sucking Brint's cock even though I already had her children and she congratulated me and that I forgive the fact that I suck him first. brint. Well leaving the drama that I invented is really that I personally feel that Savin tries to force the player to adore Cait not only by making her the best healer even when you are a white magician, the fact that as she indirectly gloats you in the face that It's sexually better than you or that we can't play with sex toys without her getting in. I don't know if it's just me who thinks so. Although perhaps it is better not to listen to my opinion, I am passive gay, it is not possible for me to enjoy cait or interact sexually with her.

 

[M0nte]

At the beginning I saw Cait as a friend addicted to sucking cock until I realized that she kept sucking Brint's

I mean, Cait and Brint are friends with Benefits. And game makes it perfectly clear that Brints loves to fuck around. I do not see why you would hold that against her.

 

[WazaQQXOXO]

My problem with the above is that I can't help but perceive at least some of the disproportionate reaction as the consequences of deep-seated, almost subconscious, sexist bigotry. Would people hate Cait as much as they do if she were male? If she weren't a "slut"? Maybe not a question for a thread such as this, but it's interesting all the same.

Her being a priestess affiliated the temple of Moloch-Baal ain't doing any favour to the character: the sex of the character / their sexuality don't matter when the writing is subpar.

I empathized with the pussycat harem: I couldn't give a shit when Savin's OC came begging for a ripp-off.