Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.27] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Raf-Raf]

DEDICK AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE
aka
shit you can actually do in CoC

Well that's the problem, the first one is called CoC and the second one is named CuC.
Know the difference.

 

[namelessone22]

DEDICK AND TEAR UNTIL IT IS DONE
aka
shit you can actually do in CoC

Lol, where do I sign up?

(I honestly don't mind people liking that stuff, but I'm so fucking fed up with the fact that they get not only futa characters put in, but the option to make characters into one (which is fine) but we on the other side never get the option to 'dedick' futas instead)

 

[namelessone22]

Nope. If you want to fuck her pussy you just gotta make them friendly (getting 10 victory points) and then gamble and win. It's more work, but the option exist.

Thankyou for putting that option in (nice to see authors still trying to accomodate both sides of the fan-base)

 

[Konstantinus]

I find it funny that no writer has written another healer character because Savin knows everyone would replace Cait the moment that character's created.

Azzy's bimbo dress?

 

[Raf-Raf]

Azzy's bimbo dress?

Azzy who?

 

[Plumpunikitty]

I mostly agree with everyone's 'dislike' (understatement) of Cait.

BUT, trying to be objective, when you boil it down to basics, she is an ideal companion for a porn game (at least on paper).
(She doesn't take things too seriously & she's down to fuck pretty much anything - and then she gives her religion as part of the excuse - all perfect for this type of game where you fuck everyone you meet & every defeated enemy - basically I have to acknowledge that those traits are ideal for this type of game)

-That said, that doesn't make her an ideal waifu, it makes her your best buddy or whatever.
(There was more but I'm losing steam/interest)
I don't outright hate her, but I agree that the way she's written, does not mesh well with the traits I've mentioned above.
Hard to romance a character like that (ie an actual relationship ie, Brienne).

I usually leave her at home & take the elf instead (I'm holding out a vain hope that we'll be able to get rid of a certain appendage eventually - maybe we'll have to rely on mods? )

I'm going to play the Devil's Advocate and argue that the majority of players aren't predisposed to the idea of an Open Relationship. So a character like Cait would sound terrible for an actual romantic interest for many people. I mean would you date your character knowing full well that they are allowed multiple sexual/romantic partners and you can't.

It kind of begs the question, would Cait be more desirable if we as a society didn't lean heavily on monogamy as it did?

 

[Raf-Raf]

I'm going to play the Devil's Advocate and argue that the majority of players aren't predisposed to the idea of an Open Relationship. So a character like Cait would sound terrible for an actual romantic interest for many people. I mean would you date your character knowing full well that they are allowed multiple sexual/romantic partners and you can't.

It kind of begs the question, would Cait be more desirable if we as a society didn't lean heavily on monogamy as it did?

Dunno about the others but I prefer having special things / people that belong to me and me alone.

We can be fuckbuddies but that's all there's to it, if you want a more serious relationship with me then I'm out.

I follow the age-old saying:
"Shoot the load, hit the road."

 

[Basty96]

I mostly agree with everyone's 'dislike' (understatement) of Cait.

BUT, trying to be objective, when you boil it down to basics, she is an ideal companion for a porn game (at least on paper).
(She doesn't take things too seriously & she's down to fuck pretty much anything - and then she gives her religion as part of the excuse - all perfect for this type of game where you fuck everyone you meet & every defeated enemy - basically I have to acknowledge that those traits are ideal for this type of game)

-That said, that doesn't make her an ideal waifu, it makes her your best buddy or whatever.
(There was more but I'm losing steam/interest)
I don't outright hate her, but I agree that the way she's written, does not mesh well with the traits I've mentioned above.
Hard to romance a character like that (ie an actual relationship ie, Brienne).

I usually leave her at home & take the elf instead (I'm holding out a vain hope that we'll be able to get rid of a certain appendage eventually - maybe we'll have to rely on mods? )

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P.S. the other incredibly stupid thing I recall them doing (my memory is not the best so pls fill in blanks/correct) is having Cait say she's saving anal virginity for her special someone (?) & then they turn around & have it taken in a combat loss scene (?)!
I don't know if it was involuntary or not (don't remember), and it may make sense as a loss scene,
but implementing the loss scene before giving players a chance to take it themselves, was just guaranteed to piss a lot of people off.

If they had let the player have the sex scene with Cait (the option), then implemented the loss scene (people preferring the loss scene could just make sure not to take Cait's virginity & trigger the loss scene first)
That way everyone's happy.

(Again pls correct if I got that wrong)

The anal loss scene for Cait is pretty much
"Nooo you can't lay your eggs in the PC we need him/her/whateverdo it to me instead, PC please avert your eyes"
and then goes on to fully enjoy it like the whoreslutbitch that she is

 

[M0nte]

But the fact that she's going to have a romance path that will probably lead to the "true ending"?

Where did you get that from?

 

[Raf-Raf]

Where did you get that from?

Earlier stages of the game when the devs are talking about "endings" back in me lurking in their forums trying to hold my sanity intact before inevitably getting banned for losing it.

I already lost interest the moment I heard there's a Cait path...
And the funniest part is that they said Cait will only get pregnant in her fucking ending, the cliche VN endings where the MC and whatever heroine he chooses will get together with a "Fin" bullshit they keep doing.

I'm about to lose it even harder now.

 

[Daken9]

Lowkey the worst thing about Cait is how Cuck-Lord lures you in with all the lovey-dovey shit in the intro - 'cause that's what sells - just to turn the whole thing on its head as soon as it's time to get down to business.

Like, setting aside how for all intents and purposes she evolved backwards, why even set up the player for that cuckening. Just tell it straight from the beginning that she a subscriber of streets' way and maybe her arc wouldn't have started out crooked.

 

[M0nte]

Earlier stages of the game when the devs are talking about "endings" back in me lurking in their forums trying to hold my sanity intact before inevitably getting banned for losing it.

I already lost interest the moment I heard there's a Cait path...
And the funniest part is that they said Cait will only get pregnant in her fucking ending, the cliche VN endings where the MC and whatever heroine he chooses will get together with a "Fin" bullshit they keep doing.

I'm about to lose it even harder now.

That sounds more like one of the ending possible, not a true ending like those in my otome games.

Lowkey the worst thing about Cait is how Cuck-Lord lures you in with all the lovey-dovey shit in the intro - 'cause that's what sells - just to turn the whole thing on its head as soon as it's time to get down to business.

Like, setting aside how for all intents and purposes she evolved backwards, why even set up the player for that cuckening. Just tell it straight from the beginning that she a subscriber of streets' way and maybe her arc wouldn't have started out crooked.

If you are talking about tutorial stuff, she was not really presented as a waifu of any kind or as a whore. She was just presented as a girl that needed help.

 

[Raf-Raf]

That sounds more like one of the ending possible, not a true ending like those in my otome games.

Bruh, if you really played CoC1 then you know what I mean with the "true ending" with that damn futa in the desert city...

This one is definitely going to be the same with Cait this time or maybe even Etheryn since she's a futa too.

 

[Skandranon]

Lol, where do I sign up?

(I honestly don't mind people liking that stuff, but I'm so fucking fed up with the fact that they get not only futa characters put in, but the option to make characters into one (which is fine) but we on the other side never get the option to 'dedick' futas instead)

But..there is an option to dedick a character (Eryka).

And there's at least two more planned (Orlaith and Evelyn, both from Wsan).

Meanwhile, there's exactly one character you can give a dick ( phoenix chick) and no more planned that I'm aware of.

 

[Basty96]

Bruh, if you really played CoC1 then you know what I mean with the "true ending" with that damn futa in the desert city...

This one is definitely going to be the same with Cait this time or maybe even Etheryn since she's a futa too.

well Etheryns going to cuk you too if you don't have vagina to give her a kid

 

[Raf-Raf]

well Etheryns going to cuk you too if you don't have vagina to give her a kid

Forget cucking I'd rather cut their damn dick off and having that option might make me rate this game 5/5.

 

[Daken9]

If you are talking about tutorial stuff, she was not really presented as a waifu of any kind or as a whore. She was just presented as a girl that needed help.

A cute pink-ass cat, acting half lovey-dovey and half damsel in distress, in the intro of the porn game. Not sure how that's not the set-up of a waifu, or how the surprise isn't some vintage subvertion of expectations.

Hell, i'll go out on a limb and say most everyone likely didn't expect her to come out of an alley dripping of hobo, 2.6 seconds after Garth sang her praises for having spent 3 days or however long that was at the Champion's side. I sure as hell didn't.

 

[Skandranon]

A cute pink-ass cat, acting half lovey-dovey and half damsel in distress, in the intro of the porn game. Not sure how that's not the set-up of a waifu, or how the surprise isn't some vintage subvertion of expectations.

I gotta say, I don't remember her acting lovey dovey in the intro and I just played it. She spends almost the entire intro screaming about her sister until after the confrontation with Kas.


Also, is someone being slutty in a porn game is subverting expectations?

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Sometimes people get a positive reaction from picking a fight with bubs, that's usually pretty funny at least. Kinda like pushing over preschoolers, but still.


I have zero actual opinion on the topic past thinking the companion comment is weird, but it's super cool to see writers actually interacting outside the forums, especially here. Always makes me view their stuff way more favorably.

Fleep is chill.

 

[Daken9]

I gotta say, I don't remember her acting lovey dovey in the intro and I just played it. She spends almost the entire intro screaming about her sister until after the confrontation with Kas.


Also, is someone being slutty in a porn game is subverting expectations?

Not about to post the whole thing 'cause frankly no time for that, but having just skimmed through the intro to make sure i didn't remember wrong, i myself gotta say i'm not sure how the general white knight/damsel-in-distress undertones - and what those imply - could fly over anyone's head. I mean, generalizing for briefness sake here, pink cat blinks open her big blue eyes to the hero looking down at her, then hugs his ass 3 or 4 times before Kaz even shows up, and then finally goes full blushing maiden time at Garth's.

If that's not lovey dovey, it's pretty damn close.

But either way, not sure what genre has to do with characterization. And also not sure how child-groomer whore-cultist translates to 'slutty'