Alterism

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lots of dialogue with the kitsune
Lots if a bit of a hyperbole.

I'm not even being facetious with my contentious point.
You don't get a whole lot.

When I say a few paragraphs worth of changes, I'm tallying a whole lot of them. Together.
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This is what we're working with here more often than not.

Of the many sentences in something like Kiyoko's wedding. Only 12 are changed and the vast majority are things such as
  • "You haven't proposed to the High Lady Ōtomo yet, have you?"
    • "You haven't proposed to the High Lady Ōtomo yet, have you, your Eminence?"
You get the idea. Sometimes you get a sentence. Rarely a few. Usually it's a single word swap. When you knock up Miko/Mai that scene plays nearly word for word the exact same. I've always thought that was overly lazy. The major point being "there's absolutely no way these marginal changes are ever going to amount to losing an entire romantic route with one of the characters that overwhelmingly has some of the most content in the game"

As a concept? Not bad.

But, hmm...
I don't even know how much I should compare to other games. There's multiple text games that do make big sweeping reactive changes. But, two of them are being written for free. Is it even fair to compare this to that?
 
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As someone who looked through all the instances where dialogue is changed when the PC's race is kitsune through notepad, you're right in that the scenes themselves don't change much the majority of the time, which I should have been more clear about. But I don't think I'm being hyperbolic when I say a lot of dialogue is changed.
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Plenty of it is a sentence/word or two in each instance, but it's a lot. Just type that under Frostwood or the Kitsune Den (The Frostwood has FAR less instances) and you'll see how often it comes up.
 
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MoneyMan181

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I'm already assuming the worst of Nida because they said they're trying to change Brienne and Kiyoko(and other party members I guess) into members of Kaly's harem for some reason or at least implied it.
You guess? Nida literally never even brought up those two, they only ever brought up Cait. You know, the literal whore who is down to fuck anything? But yeah everybody else is stupid but you big guy. What makes you think Wsan or TOBS even want to write that shit for Kaly?
I'm just intensely wary of shit like this because it ends up retconning characters and relationships which, apparently, some people are too stupid to understand and when they don't have an argument they resort to comments like "sad" as if they're not also being elitist about their own fetish.
Brother you're the one not able to read what Nida wrote or just purposefully putting words in their mouth. Give me evidence of people acting superior over you because they like the fetish instead of just calling you out on your shitty behavior.

Literally said it yourself that you're being an asshole and then proceed to get upset when people call you sad for being an asshole. You can't make this shit up.
 

Alterism

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But I don't think I'm being hyperbolic when I say a lot of dialogue is changed.
Wait. Clearly I've misunderstood your point of view.
When you responded to my post, which contained the statement "a few paragraphs". I thought that was what you were calling to question instead of the sheer quantity of adjustments, small or otherwise.

Under that basis, I'm most certainly wrong.
But actually, under several others ones I'm also still wrong to the point that several parts of my entire original statement gets redacted; "negligible dialogue changes"

Because I had a big think, and even if the most that was changed was the calls to the title, of which don't get me wrong a substantial amount is only that, there's still enough to reaffirm your choice. This was the place where my critique had been coming from for that particular grievance.
A bit embarrassing on my part.
 

QuedzaDrake

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"You guess? Nida literally never even brought up those two, they only ever brought up Cait."

"Brother you're the one not able to read what Nida wrote or just purposefully putting words in their mouth."
People out here failing basic reading comprehension checks while playing a TEXT-BASED GAME genuinely baffles me, like how do you get a "skill issue" while reading a book?.

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jfmherokiller

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as a furry there are so many concepts that work with the kitsune den but its implementation is complete and utter ass. (yes I want a more feralish kitsune design for furry reasons but other then that)

I love the concept of the soulbound but holy chirst does it feel cheep when you do it with keros because kitsunes can shapeshift.

The text changes are nice but the attitude is not.

Kinu is ... fucked.

The soulbound kitsune powers are usually completely worthless I mean it can do damage but kiks own powers do more damage.
 

Yeppers34

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as a furry there are so many concepts that work with the kitsune den but its implementation is complete and utter ass. (yes I want a more feralish kitsune design for furry reasons but other then that)

I love the concept of the soulbound but holy chirst does it feel cheep when you do it with keros because kitsunes can shapeshift.

The text changes are nice but the attitude is not.

Kinu is ... fucked.

The soulbound kitsune powers are usually completely worthless I mean it can do damage but kiks own powers do more damage.
Well you see the thing is...kinu is not fucked and that's a problem for some people
 

Tsubuhaza

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Maybe I just have trash taste though lol. ¯\(°_o)/¯ It would be better if you could become Kero's champion without a kitsune tf, but I think the soulbind concept isn't an inherently bad idea.
It's really on the writer. Were this game's kitsunes less xenophobic, that probably would have been possible. Alas.

Kinu is ... fucked.
Literally. But only in commissions by Tobs or by anyone Tobs wants her to be.
 
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Literally. But only in commissions by Tobs or by anyone Tobs wants her to be.
Tobs is preparing you for parenthood, your kid is gonna have sex.

I'm not sure what you're expecting here, patreon prohibits any kind of incest.
 

Tsubuhaza

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Tobs is preparing you for parenthood, your kid is gonna have sex.

I'm not sure what you're expecting here, patreon prohibits any kind of incest.
Funny that he fast-forwarded the childraising bit to head straight into the "my OC fucks her" bit, eh.

But that was me joking about it. Zero interest on incest but it'd be nice to have adventures with your little daughter (exploration, sight-seeing, maybe meeting some of the more positive characters around, she could even bring out Cait's non-whore side) as long as they were safe from certain bad actors.
 

_user

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it'd be nice to have adventures with your little daughter (exploration, sight-seeing, maybe meeting some of the more positive characters around, she could even bring out Cait's non-whore side) as long as they were safe from certain bad actors.
This is a porn game, the narrative is just there as an excuse for the actual content - porn. I get you wanting all that stuff, but you're looking in the wrong place.
 

MoneyMan181

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This is a porn game, the narrative is just there as an excuse for the actual content - porn. I get you wanting all that stuff, but you're looking in the wrong place.
So then why bother including her in the first place? Her content barely has any porn and is inherently restricted from the no incest rule. It's not even good from an NTR angle, not that it even really would be.

Besides, there are 3 other characters that you can impregnate and raise a named child with that entails a lot of content. Wouldn't really say they're looking in the wrong place, especially considering pregnancy is one of the game's main fetishes.
 

_user

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Eh...not really? Kinu already DOES go on several adventures, completely lacking in porn, except you just watch from the sidelines.
Kinu having sex scenes is probably the only reason she had such a narrative push to begin with, and people hated it, so no more Kinu content.

Besides, there are 3 other characters that you can impregnate and raise a named child with that entails a lot of content. Wouldn't really say they're looking in the wrong place, especially considering pregnancy is one of the game's main fetishes.
I'd argue pregnancy itself is the fetish, the resulting child? not so much. There's some sparse content here and there, but don't hold your breath for follow-ups.
 

Yeppers34

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Kinu having sex scenes is probably the only reason she had such a narrative push to begin with, and people hated it, so no more Kinu content.


I'd argue pregnancy itself is the fetish, the resulting child? not so much. There's some sparse content here and there, but don't hold your breath for follow-ups.
Nah incest with Kinu was never planned i brought it up in the forums once and the main man himself Savin denied it 1000014721.jpg
 
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