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Meblue

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Wait, is that a defeat scene? Hasn't philosophy of "You lose -> Everyone gets raped" been there from the very beginning of coc1? What's so special about this particular scene?
-Wsan, Brienne's writer, didn't consent to it being put in the game, in fact he didn't even want it in the first place.
-Brienne is the only notable monogamous companion in the game and is considered the best companion in the game by some people.
-The scene itself isn't really written to be sexy, it's written to make the player feel awful.
 

YouShallNotLol

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-Wsan, Brienne's writer, didn't consent to it being put in the game, in fact he didn't even want it in the first place.
-Brienne is the only notable monogamous companion in the game and is considered the best companion in the game by some people.
-The scene itself isn't really written to be sexy, it's written to make the player feel awful.
Ok, when you put it like that it does sound pretty bad.
Since I try to never lose and alt+F4 whenever I do lose, I didn't even know this scene existed. Now I wonder how many more awful defeat scenes I'm not aware about.
 

Alterism

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Ok, when you put it like that it does sound pretty bad.
Since I try to never lose and alt+F4 whenever I do lose, I didn't even know this scene existed. Now I wonder how many more awful defeat scenes I'm not aware about.
There aren't that much more. There's Savin's minotaur captain scene which is equally not all that hot but despite not being that good (they're making brienne moo and the like) had a few percentage points more of class.

Everything else is whatever.
The new mushroom dungeon just turns you into a mindless broken rape victim in the most unsexy manner imaginable.
Every fight in Dracia leads to you get horribly abused by Alissa regardless of who defeats you. One of the scenes is pretty alright and then nope, abused by Alissa.
There's a handful of loss/band ends where you just die. (The ring of fate's harpies, the assassin, whisper, almost all the bosses in the Temple of Challenge)
Hmm. Upon reflection the bad ends for like the last 2 years have kind of sucked.

Yeah, it's actually ironic - the worse the game is, the more positive it's community tends to be, probably because it's a minority that understand their position and does their best to be welcoming towards those are also interested. Meanwhile, some great, popular games have awful communities because they attract many assholes and it becomes a toxic cesspit.
That's a mix of a few things really. When the games bad the community is smaller and if the community is that small outsiders are less likely to stick around.
As negativity can be mentally exhausting to constantly read, the small (bad) game communities become a bastion of hope for like-minded individuals. Which is why you had people palling around for Babylon's fall semi amicably (all the way until EoS at least).

Gets a bit awkward sometimes though when people recommend bad/dying games. 3rd Birthday is like my guilty pleasure. But if somebody came to me and said, "Hey, I like Parasite Eve; would I like Third Birthday for the story?", the answer should absolutely be, "No. Absolutely not. Stay away."
 

yuzuyo

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Maybe SKoW's wayfort maids are the only things I think unreasonably suck.
What's wrong with the maids? I've seen some people complaining about them, but I don't know why. I usually just ignore the wayfort, so I'm out of the loop.
 

NODOGAN

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What's wrong with the maids? I've seen some people complaining about them, but I don't know why. I usually just ignore the wayfort, so I'm out of the loop.
Most complains about the Wayfort as far as I get it is that the NPCs there randomly pop-up making it feel like you're playing minesweeper rather than being in a hub, not just the maids but Farah, Dracia and other Wayfort NPCs in general.
 

Alterism

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What's wrong with the maids? I've seen some people complaining about them, but I don't know why. I usually just ignore the wayfort, so I'm out of the loop.
For me? Few things personally. Bit of a grudge, really. I've got a bone to pick with the entire implementation though.

So when we first got them they were:
Initially implemented without a single sex scene with the PC.
Are random wayfort encounters which are like landmines with few enough variations that it exhausts itself in a few visits and hits awful monotony from that point forward.
So without the player so much as getting a scene at their inception you've got:

The bee/guard flrting
The plant/guard flirting
The bee/plant love 'voyeurisms'
Two PC "teases"

Which would be neat in any other context except you've implemented one of the highest in demand fetishes that exists and excludes the player character from any of it. The teases had less effort put into them than one getting herself stirred up by another.

Then we finally get the sex scenes a month(?) later. Was it two?
And...!~ they suck! And not in the sexy play on words kind of way.
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Maids are like the infinity gauntlet in porn games. You've got the power to do anything.
And my mans did nothing.
 

desmosome

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Been a while since I've played this. The removal of resolve simplified combat for the devs, I guess, but it also made things more dull for people who are into character builds and experimenting with party synergies. Oh well.

I guess Berwyn got demoted to NPC or something? I'm doing the Matiha's Revenge quest and once again getting annoyed by some writers railroading you into gay or lovey dovey vibes without considering the MC. My supposedly super masculine and straight Dark Knight MC with 99 corruption is acting like a little bitch and consoling this gay furry Berwyn by hugging him and holding his hand. Come on... lol.

Oh well, I've been just skim reading most of the text that seem frivolous anyways. The major plot elements are still interesting, and the process of finding cool loot and upgrading my char has been the main draw for me.
 

Deviton123

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What I've just found out today makes me wanna beat the shit outta the minotaur guards and hobgoblins every time I see them. Shame you can't do it to the guards repeatedly. Also, the guards get to rape/make slaves outta us but we don't even get the option to do the same to them? In fact, all we're able to do is blow them? Bullshit.
 
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John Jonner

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The mino gaurds can rape brienne too? I thought it was just the hobs i've never seen them brought up in relation to brienne rape. Though I suppose it makes sense out of everyone it'd be savin to do it given his dislike of brienne
 
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NODOGAN

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-Be Me:
-Realize We'll hardly if ever be recognized as an all-powerful hero inside the game because power fantasy=bads.
-Understand our real quest is to fuck anything that moves and/or has a hole to fuck.
-Embrace penis mentality.
-Make an Orc, Whitemage Noble character (+1 Toughness, +1 Willpower, +1 Presence.)
-Fill character's deck with Storm & Holy spells.
-Fuck every creature they encounter in the pussy/ass/mouth/designated hole.
-Do all pregnancy content where they get to spread their noble seed across the land.
-Name Orc PC Zeus.
 

YouShallNotLol

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Also, the guards get to rape/make slaves outta us but we don't even get the option to do the same to them? In fact, all we're able to do is blow them? Bullshit.
It's been like that from the very beginning of coc1. Every random hobo could and would enslave the PC, if given a chance. All while PC was a goody two shoes inoffensive snowflake, that couldn't physically harm a fly.
Seriously, almost every generic enemy had a dedicated bad end.
 

Alterism

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The mino gaurds can rape brienne too? I thought it was just the hobs i've never seen them brought up in relation to brienne rape. Though I suppose it makes sense out of everyone it'd be savin to do it given his dislike of brienne
Sure do.

Brint + Kiyoko


Like I said it's not as bad. But like the hob goblins it wasn't made to be sexually gratifying or arouse the player
It stands out for a few reasons.


For shame, Savin.

First it was written by a person who has better things to do than write unsexy spite projects for peoples favorite characters

Secondly
Arona + Etheryn


Azzyran + Quint



Cait + Atugia


I'm sure an astute eye can recognize what's missing without my commentary. But just in case.

Absent are literally every other companion besides those two and Cait. The latter which I don't need to explain why she barely is worthy of mention. IIRC Berwyn didn't have a scene there either. Cait getting railed by one more thing is probably in Savin's strike zone.

For shame Savin
 
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Deviton123

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-Be Me:
-Realize We'll hardly if ever be recognized as an all-powerful hero inside the game because power fantasy=bads.
-Understand our real quest is to fuck anything that moves and/or has a hole to fuck.
-Embrace penis mentality.
-Make an Orc, Whitemage Noble character (+1 Toughness, +1 Willpower, +1 Presence.)
-Fill character's deck with Storm & Holy spells.
-Fuck every creature they encounter in the pussy/ass/mouth/designated hole.
-Do all pregnancy content where they get to spread their noble seed across the land.
-Name Orc PC Zeus.
If there was an option to do so, I'd:

-Make a human (for the Imperium of man)
-Turn Brint into Brienne
-Beat the shit outta Mino guards, because my character has a feeling they deserve it
-Same with hobgoblins, you think you can rob me?
-Dump Cait in the middle of nowhere
-Retire with Brienne

Kasyrra doesn't get what she wants, Cait can fuck off, I beat the shit outta people, and I get a muscular, busty, and adorable cowgirl all to myself. But alas, my power fantasy can never happen.
 

desmosome

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Sure do.

Brint + Kiyoko


Like I said it's not as bad. But like the hob goblins it wasn't made to be sexually gratifying or arouse the player
It stands out for a few reasons.


For shame, Savin.

First it was written by a person who has better things to do than write unsexy spite projects for peoples favorite characters

Secondly
Arona + Etheryn


Azzyran + Quint



Cait + Atugia


I'm sure an astute eye can recognize what's missing without my commentary. But just in case.

Absent are literally every other companion besides those two and Cait. The latter which I don't need to explain why she barely is worthy of mention. IIRC Berwyn didn't have a scene there either. Cait getting railed by one more thing is probably in Savin's strike zone.

For shame Savin
Meh, I'd be down for some good old NTR bad ends, except every single one of them includes the male PC getting assfucked or licking up cum. With all the parsers they got going, you'd think there would be a gay parser they can use. I guess they really want to stick to the lore that pretty much everything is canonically Bi in this universe.
 
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