Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[destroyerofassholes]

Despite TITS's reputation it does have some great moments, characters, and transformations, Yes nearly half the characters are futa or have half their content focused on futa transformation but you can ignore that and still enjoy the other stuff.

Ehhh. I feel like TiTS has 0 quality control whereas CoC2 at least has some.

TiTS content varies from utter actual literal dogshit to okay.
CoC2 varies from bad to good.

I feel like CoC2 wins, if only because it's a far more focused game.

 

[M0nte]

CoC2 varies from bad

I am actually wondering, what would you (or anyone else) consider bad content inCOC2? Sure, there is a lot of unfinished things, which Is bad, but in terms of writing, the scale to me is from mediocre to good/great. The only content I can say I dislike is Azzies and some of things Bubblelord wrote, but that is mostly me not feeling there characters.

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

I am actually wondering, what would you consider bad content in TITS?

...is this even a question?
Kinu, Kiyoko and around half of others in kitsune den.

 

[M0nte]

...is this even a question?
Kinu, Kiyoko and around half of others in kitsune den.

Really Kiyoko? Yeah, she does have problems, but mostly from design sense where she is only companion that is locked from you if you play as a character with no dick. I am not sure what is there else really to dislike about her. For Kinu, I know what people here think about her so I am not going to bother with that.
But by other kitsune who do you mean? I think Nakano is pretty obvious, but everyone else seems likable enough (maybe Takahiro can get on some people nerves). But stuff like Rindo, twins (maybe you dislike there accent), Kohaku and Komari all seem fine.

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

Really Kiyoko?
But by other kitsune who do you mean?

Yep, now that i think about it that's mostly because she is bundled with Kinu and it was an immense dissapontment.

Other kitsune: both males were boring and annoying while at the same time they were popping up too often to forget about them. I remember there was one more female i disliked, it wasn't bad content tho so i will reiterate:

Kinu and her suitors were bad, while kitsune den overall was dissapointing for me.

 

[actualrealname]

I am actually wondering, what would you (or anyone else) consider bad content inCOC2? Sure, there is a lot of unfinished things, which Is bad, but in terms of writing, the scale to me is from mediocre to good/great. The only content I can say I dislike is Azzies and some of things Bubblelord wrote, but that is mostly me not feeling there characters.

All the stuff with the horse people is pretty bad currently, the combat system is pretty terrible for how constantly you need to use it, there's a lot of random encounters that are pretty poorly written imo but that's just taste I guess?

It's good by internet smut standards, but by published RPG ones (let alone novels) there's a fair amount of clunky stuff. A lot of specific things that are bad too, author quirks that should get caught when their stuff is being reviewed. Tobs has a weird habit of writing things your character says the exact same way as internal thoughts or just descriptions of the environment for example.
Mostly all of the companions just exist as flavor text and don't really care about their own goals unless you decide to go there, a lot of content is really inconsequential but still has this weird attitude where they don't want to admit the world just completely revolves around the player.

I don't know if I'd say there's any actual great writing in the game though, as much as I like wsan and a few of the other authors, or think that tobs has good potential for the genre, "great writing" is a really high bar. Like does anything here really even come close to disco elysium or ps torment? Even less outstanding RPGs like NV or Enderal are solidly better written to me. I still enjoy it (clearly, I'm still here lol), but pure smut just is way too restrictive to ever be properly great, imo.

 

[M0nte]

All the stuff with the horse people is pretty bad currently, the combat system is pretty terrible for how constantly you need to use it, there's a lot of random encounters that are pretty poorly written imo but that's just taste I guess?

It's good by internet smut standards, but by published RPG ones (let alone novels) there's a fair amount of clunky stuff. A lot of specific things that are bad too, author quirks that should get caught when their stuff is being reviewed. Tobs has a weird habit of writing things your character says the exact same way as internal thoughts or just descriptions of the environment for example.
Mostly all of the companions just exist as flavor text and don't really care about their own goals unless you decide to go there, a lot of content is really inconsequential but still has this weird attitude where they don't want to admit the world just completely revolves around the player.

I don't know if I'd say there's any actual great writing in the game though, as much as I like wsan and a few of the other authors, or think that tobs has good potential for the genre, "great writing" is a really high bar. Like does anything here really even come close to disco elysium or ps torment? Even less outstanding RPGs like NV or Enderal are solidly better written to me. I still enjoy it (clearly, I'm still here lol), but pure smut just is way too restrictive to ever be properly great, imo.

Great to me, from scale 1-10, is 7/10. Stuff like NV and Disco are better writen, 9/10 mostly, but that was the scale I was going for.
And this is maybe my lack of expirience with other porn games. I played some of rance games (not to completion mind you) or most stuff on this site. But compared to most of what I played, COC2 seems better to me. I can not really get into VN japanese porn since most of translation in them can be messy, and what porn that is written in them is either to basic and not that interesting. 3D porn on this site, which Is one that interacted the least since most of them look off to me, are also not that well written. But it could be also be that I am not just into playing as an average guy, since I can not relate to it.
Honestly, maybe the reason why I like this game compared to most is that is mostly about writing. No awkward still sexual pictures that have planted text on them with some kind of voice over. No 3D that is mostly distracting.

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[actualrealname]

And this is maybe my lack of expirience with other porn games. I played some of rance games (not to completion mind you) or most stuff on this site. But compared to most of what I played, COC2 seems better to me.

Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely much better written than the vast majority of other porn games out there. There's a few I prefer the writing of, but they're generally much more linear affairs, or are more focused on comedy. Last sovereign is closer I guess, but still a very different focus.

I just think that generally the standards for adult games are crazy low, there's really not that many writers who I'd say are actually particularly skilled outside the actual sex scenes. It's a genre that's really restrictive too, because the focus is so heavily on sex that it really lacks the ability to bring out emotions in the way other writing would. You really have to make games crazy long or work relationships directly into the plot to be able to do both, which most devs don't bother with.

It's the same thing that happens with combat, they start mediocre and then stay that way because most fans are just there for the porn. Price for freedom is supposedly doing a lot more work on their combat system though, which is cool to see.

Very fair on the spoiler too lol, there's really only so many times you can play "ambiguously 18 year old male who is incredibly uncharismatic but everyone loves him anyway" or "chick who exists to get abused and has no real other personality" before it gets old.

 

[NotEvenOw]

Having my sexually forward, virgin slaying, demon fucking Champion breakdown into anime hysterics at the mere idea of confessing to a mantislut I've known for a grand total of five minutes and had no meaningful involvement with, then proceeding to confess undying love for her sure was an experience. This sort of dialogue and personality inconsistency between scenes and characters is precisely why this game needs an editor yesterday. She is cute tho

 

[M0nte]

Having my sexually forward, virgin slaying, demon fucking Champion breakdown into anime hysterics at the mere idea of confessing to a mantislut I've known for a grand total of five minutes and had no meaningful involvement with, then proceeding to confess undying love for her sure was an experience. This sort of dialogue and personality inconsistency between scenes and characters is precisely why this game needs an editor yesterday. She is cute tho

Oh yeah, I had not had that big of whiplash in this game since Brienne missionary CG (that one that shows your PC as a human even if you are not one). Like, that would actually be nice as an dialogue option if your champion is a virgin or is inexperienced in sex. But my champion was furthest from that.

 

[Archaon11111]

Having my sexually forward, virgin slaying, demon fucking Champion breakdown into anime hysterics at the mere idea of confessing to a mantislut I've known for a grand total of five minutes and had no meaningful involvement with, then proceeding to confess undying love for her sure was an experience. This sort of dialogue and personality inconsistency between scenes and characters is precisely why this game needs an editor yesterday. She is cute tho

Yeah the dialogue leading up to the confession is pretty cringe, and the training montage skippable but at least her scenes are alright never get tired of an anus getting called a dark donut.

 

[Kaftein]

pure smut just is way too restrictive to ever be properly great, imo.

If you only limit yourself to one market, sure. I recommend Takamakuran's "A New Game" (yes, an incredibly easy to search title, I know) which has been uploaded to F95zone. It's a JRPG with a solid plot, legible translation, and excellent scenes--and most importantly, it's complete. The artstyle might turn you off a bit, but pretty much all the reviews say that it grows on you really quickly.

For a more mainstream (read: well known, A New Game is actually super vanilla as far as kinks go) choice, the illustrious Monster Girl Quest (which I recently completed for the first time myself) is highly regarded for its writing. I'd slap a warning about its tags, but considering we're most likely CoC veterans here, there's really nothing that extreme. If you're like me and the weirdest kink you have is something low-tier like anal, you can turn off vore scenes--as it is, the majority of the scenes are entirely optional and viewed-on-loss, and the ones that aren't optional are pretty vanilla. Just some light femdom and vaginal sex.
Fair warning though, the art quality jumps all over the place since the creator commissioned a whole bunch of different ones for his circle. That means you can have some really nice designs one moment, and then you'll want to gouge out your eyeballs the next. Alas.
But hey, you asked for good writing in a porn game, here you go. It's probably one of the most well-known examples of it, too.

 

[gregers]

I am actually wondering, what would you (or anyone else) consider bad content inCOC2? Sure, there is a lot of unfinished things, which Is bad, but in terms of writing, the scale to me is from mediocre to good/great. The only content I can say I dislike is Azzies and some of things Bubblelord wrote, but that is mostly me not feeling there characters.

Haven't played it in a while but that whole part where it switched from the MC's wacky adventures to extensive stories about some fox people half of whom I didn't know who were and the other two-thirds I didn't give two shits about.

 

[James3]

Do you have to have requirements equipped for powers to copy them with Mirror Stance (something technically Ranged for archer stuff, 2-handed for things that require that, ect)? Also, do "duel weapons" actually exist for player characters, or are those powers uncopyable if the former is true? Did they ever give the option to walk away from Bunny Bitch in the Foothills or do I still have to flee before her hp hits 0? Do you think they'll do with a character like Gytha what they did with Ferruze:Actually remember that you fucked her when she appears much later on and she has a baby somewhere?

 

[DarknessDai]

i have Question does dick size matter in this game ?

 

[NotEvenOw]

Yeah the dialogue leading up to the confession is pretty cringe, and the training montage skippable but at least her scenes are alright never get tired of an anus getting called a dark donut.

Reading through her post-confession anal scene and all I kept thinking was "damn, homie really likes ham."

 

[Archaon11111]

i have Question does dick size matter in this game ?

Not that much, I tested the game with a micro dick and a lot scenes still treat it like an above average dick. I know one character Evelyn will just laugh at you if your dick is below 4 inches.

 

[Biostar]

The primary fetishes being appealed are size difference; enormous asses; dom/sub, with, in a rare change, the PC being the dom; and lots of hero worship. As soon as you rescue Lyric, they are willing to do anything - anything - for you.

I need this shit now man.

 

[actualrealname]

If you only limit yourself to one market, sure.

I didn't know what to quote for this reply lol, but I think I just have different standards of "great writing". To me that's a very, very high bar, there's only a couple videogames I'd say even come close to it.

Can definitely have good writing with smut too, but a game that's primarily porn is just always going to be super limited by that. Your characters all end up having to exist to facilitate that somehow, and you always have to keep that in mind. It limits what sort of emotional responses you can aim to bring out, and what directions you can take your story in general, because it all needs to revolve around sex scenes. RPGs that are more focused on being RPGs while also including sex regularly can be better though, or ones that are telling small scale personal stories about a relationship or something where sex just happens naturally.

Definitely will check out that A New Game title though, cheers for rec. Artstyle looks a bit inconsistent, but I can for sure see how it'd grow on you too.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Having my sexually forward, virgin slaying, demon fucking Champion breakdown into anime hysterics at the mere idea of confessing to a mantislut I've known for a grand total of five minutes and had no meaningful involvement with, then proceeding to confess undying love for her sure was an experience. This sort of dialogue and personality inconsistency between scenes and characters is precisely why this game needs an editor yesterday. She is cute tho

This is exactly what I thought. I always envisioned my character as a chad and now he acts like a complete and utter buffoon.

The confession scene was just actual physical cringe. I worry for the author.