Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.31] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Kallisto]

Yup. B answered it too.

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I like that he mentioned the discord and how it's hard for him to get actual critiques from fans there, instead of just praise. And I never go on these boards myself so it's nice to see some people gave good suggestions.

He should stop by here too though.

The thing I don't understand is I could have sworn polyamory hinged on consent. You don't get to go around fucking other people all willy-nilly, you gotta ask your partner for each person you fuck. Really could have sworn the community has an etiquette and ruleset. Yet they write these characters as if they were worshippers of Slaanesh where consent is just a restraint, no respect for the partner.

Pretty much only Cait has the "consent" in that you agree to be fuck buddies essentially, before unlocking her sex content. Not sure about anyone else. I think sometimes the writers just lean too hard on the "average porn gamer just wants an npc to own and control' and forgetting that they're writing for basically a sex rpg, where the player can customize different aspects of their PC. It's not a stretch to think that people at least want to have the option of opting out of certain content and not having to worry that walking through the door of the frosthound will show an npc felating their husbando under the table.

 

[Daken9]

This was from awhile ago and he's made significant improvements since. He stumbled, but corrected himself from what I can tell.

The thing I don't understand is I could have sworn polyamory hinged on consent. You don't get to go around fucking other people all willy-nilly, you gotta ask your partner for each person you fuck. Really could have sworn the community has an etiquette and ruleset. Yet they write these characters as if they were worshippers of Slaanesh where consent is just a restraint, no respect for the partner.

Telling you, devil that you know. That goddamn cat, of all people, has the asbolute grace of telling us upfront that she's an absolute dumb No but really, dude wrote Lyric so here's hoping. Just not too much

As for the rest, i'm guessing those people are just kinda winging it, not really knowing how those things they write about are supposed to work and leaning a bit too hard on the mindless porn aspect. Kind of like the developers of Last of Us 2 and anal sex.

Spoiler: Nightmare fuel

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My dude fucked up her up worse than Ellie did

 

[M0nte]

felating their husbando

Define husbandos because the only one that I think fit the classical mold of husbando is the Elf fuckboy Elyon, the classic bad boy edgelord.

Also, I think there is a difference between polyamory and open ralationship.
Latter is something that the game hinges on in a lot of cases with people like Cait, Brint, Quin and many others. You get to fuck whoever you want, they get to fuck whoever you want.

Polyamory is engament/love between multiply people. Poly relationships hinges on trust that you and your partners are going to be truthful to everyone. So, unlike in open relationship where you can fuck anyone without asking your partner/s, in poly you will have to ask all of your loved ones if it is OK for you to fuck someone else.

 

[Kroenen12]

Not gonna lie, she seems pretty trash Cait, but a bird, and with an attitude.

nah

 

[SpaceMarine1989]

Just downloaded and tried. I went to the downloads folder and renamed the file from CoC2.apk.zip and renamed it to CoC2.apk and the icon changed to the standard CoC2 icon for apk. Tap and it installed it normally.

Worked like a charm! 'Thumbs up' Thanks you!

 

[Kallisto]

Define husbandos because the only one that I think fit the classical mold of husbando is the Elf fuckboy Elyon, the classic bad boy edgelord.

Also, I think there is a difference between polyamory and open ralationship.
Latter is something that the game hinges on in a lot of cases with people like Cait, Brint, Quin and many others. You get to fuck whoever you want, they get to fuck whoever you want.

Polyamory is engament/love between multiply people. Poly relationships hinges on trust that you and your partners are going to be truthful to everyone. So, unlike in open relationship where you can fuck anyone without asking your partner/s, in poly you will have to ask all of your loved ones if it is OK for you to fuck someone else.

I definitely meant Brint in that specific instance. Despite him being dtf most people, if you get with him, then he shows constantly that you're #1 to him. Most of his threesome scenes (that are written by wsan, other authors don't usually do this), either have the PC being able to join in and Brint stating he can't leave his favorite out of things, or being able to focus the threesome on either the PC or Brint if you want (my fav example is the sleepy snek stuff). So for me, Wsan nailed his character. He was able to make a bro sir-fucks-alot minotaur still feel like he likes the PC the most.

And about poly vs open relationships. I def think the devs might throw around the word polyamorous when they mean, like you said, more of an open relationship or fuck buddies (at least for the above case with B). For me, with Brint's more loveydovey scenes, it def feels like he has an understanding with the PC that they're pretty into each other, even if/when they fuck other people who don't matter as much to them. And this is like I said, usually backed up by Wsan's writing because he gives you more choices in how you engage with his scenes.

It's why I have high hopes for Mino City, whenever we get more Brint scenes (plus I'm pretty sure it's been said you can either marry him or get him a harem, I think it's obv which one I'll choose lol). Not really into any of the other male npcs. Elyon has nice artwork but goddamn Tobs' sex scenes leave me bone dry. It is hard for me to get even a drop of arousal from reading his stuff lol.

 

[A.HK]

I haven't seen much character work from Alypia, but they have potential.

I think Alypia is the one that pushing all that stud-Ryn crap, with Savin's permission of course.
If you go to her (or his or they idk) twitter page you will see a lot of arts of her OC getting railed by the Ryn or other dickgirls.
So...

 

[Daddums]

I think Alypia is the one that pushing all that stud-Ryn crap, with Savin's permission of course.
If you go to her (or his or they idk) twitter page you will see a lot of arts of her OC getting railed by the Ryn or other dickgirls.
So...

Hm, so that's why Ryn got disjointed so suddenly. Could have sworn they wrote some romantic stuff too, but am I mistaken again?

 

[enumate]

I'm sure some people are more than happy Ryn is male

 

[gillriss]

Thank you, I'm gonna try it

But if these are the only changes I don't see how it can be so much better than the Vanilla. I mean, I never even knew about Ryn's scene with Hashat because I never gave that character any attention, etc. I'll keep an eye on the mod as well the Original and see what else will come on the mod.

Welcome to my world, I'm not optimistic to see where the mod goes because it has all the potential to be just quality of life and no story editing... you know, the thing that actually needs fixed.

 

[Kallisto]

Hm, so that's why Ryn got disjointed so suddenly. Could have sworn they wrote some romantic stuff too, but am I mistaken again?

Yeah, pretty sure they did Ryn's nursing scene where they nurse a lactating PC's tits. They seem to do a lot of lovey dovey scenes or at least scenes on the sweeter side.

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And Alypia has stated before that they are one of the only writers for the game (not on the team but who submits stuff semi regularly? i think?) that plays a female PC with no dick. I hoped that this would mean they'd throw us masculine male-lovers a bone but nah, they seem very into futas (and fems) - hence all the Ryn dicking them stuff.

 

[RenH]

Considering how protective BubbleLord is towards his OCs, I wouldn't be surprised.

As you can see, BubbleLord is an incredibly polite and sophisticated individual of the highest calibre. Clearly, we, the Players, are at fault for Leofric's behavior for how can us peons fathom the great depths of the character constructed by the Lord of Bubbles?

 

[Futa_Buddy]

So I've been replaying the game recently and I'm doing the quest to build a temple to Malach in Hawkthorne, during the convo with Carmen (horribly underused character) she says the she needs to talk to Severine posthaste... does anyone know who this Severine person is? And why did they name drop her there without any context?

 

[WazaQQXOXO]

Thank you, I'm gonna try it

But if these are the only changes I don't see how it can be so much better than the Vanilla. I mean, I never even knew about Ryn's scene with Hashat because I never gave that character any attention, etc. I'll keep an eye on the mod as well the Original and see what else will come on the mod.

From a mechanics point of view, I can get behind the introduction of the level cap raise (from 6 to 10) and the consumables (Stat boost). The former feels necessary once you get roam the Undermountain while the latter makes earning gold meaningful.

I tried it for the Quint's scene and it's more about you telling Quint how "great" he is than about actually fucking that asshole.

I mean, Quint is always on top, init?

First time posting in this thread. Yet after reading the whole thread it seems that the 4chan general and here have reached the same conclusions.
-Savin is uncapable to make a decent game
[...]
Is almost painful know that this game that had too much potential is going to waste thanks to 1 of the devs (Savin) and the sperg in chief (Tobs).

I agree with your post, but I feel you underestimate the role of Savin in this fucking debacle. This lad is the main writer / team leader /creator of the game. Not an intern, not a secretary, not one dev,but the dude in charge of overseeing the whole project. Nothing should happen without him stepping in. Yet we end up with Bubs and Tobs.

 

[actualrealname]

I recently did Gweyr quest for the first time, and I'll give Tobs props that he can at least do like, action-adventure writing well?

He's definitely much more competent at this than the bizarre half thought through drama he tends to write (and most of his sex scenes, guy is like a thesaurus that only takes definitions from urban dictionary), though I can't stand the way he writes villains personally.
They're all so incredibly lacking in charisma or intimidation, and one only even works because it forces the champ to be a retard and just not stop them for some reason.

That being said, dumb tropey villains are still a huge step up from dumb tropey melodramatic NPCs we're forced to care about, or sex scenes that involve someone crying the whole time and smelling like ash (because they're a burn victim, and that's how scars work apparently).

 

[RenH]

sex scenes that involve someone crying the whole time and smelling like ash (because they're a burn victim, and that's how scars work apparently).

Probably Tobs, in his infinite wisdom, uses the smell of ash to portray the anguish and trauma of a burn victim in the same way an amateur chef finds out that his bacon is little bit too crispy.

Also, the superior burn victim waifu:

 

[M0nte]

I definitely meant Brint in that specific instance. Despite him being dtf most people, if you get with him, then he shows constantly that you're #1 to him. Most of his threesome scenes (that are written by wsan, other authors don't usually do this), either have the PC being able to join in and Brint stating he can't leave his favorite out of things, or being able to focus the threesome on either the PC or Brint if you want (my fav example is the sleepy snek stuff). So for me, Wsan nailed his character. He was able to make a bro sir-fucks-alot minotaur still feel like he likes the PC the most.

And about poly vs open relationships. I def think the devs might throw around the word polyamorous when they mean, like you said, more of an open relationship or fuck buddies (at least for the above case with B). For me, with Brint's more loveydovey scenes, it def feels like he has an understanding with the PC that they're pretty into each other, even if/when they fuck other people who don't matter as much to them. And this is like I said, usually backed up by Wsan's writing because he gives you more choices in how you engage with his scenes.

It's why I have high hopes for Mino City, whenever we get more Brint scenes (plus I'm pretty sure it's been said you can either marry him or get him a harem, I think it's obv which one I'll choose lol). Not really into any of the other male npcs. Elyon has nice artwork but goddamn Tobs' sex scenes leave me bone dry. It is hard for me to get even a drop of arousal from reading his stuff lol.

Hm, fair but to me it feels like the attraction between Brint and the champion is kind of forced. Like, you fuck him onceand you are considered lovers. While other companions have that problem, I find it more noticeable with Brint since game tries to make it seem like you can either be his friend or fuckbuddy. Like, if he tells you that after second time fucking him, it almost makes it seem like he tells it to all other girls he fucks. To keep them interested.

And when it feels like most of the time that it is your champion telling how much they love him, how he never asks champion if they want to fuck and how game constantly reminds me how many girls he fucked and how many girls he left with bastards at home... It just makes me feel like one of his side hos.

But maybe it is just hard for me to see an open relationship like this romantically since I do not believe you can make it believable if all strands between you and being Brints "lover" is one measly fuck.

And considering that most of his content will probably revolve around his "bull" appeal where you bring other girls to him? While you may like idea of being his number one and him getting "harem girls" (it is still not directly confirmed if that is happening), I would like if he could ask us once if he could milk us or go down on us on his own accord.

 

[Lemko]

Okay, taking the whole Savinsaga aside for a moment to ask about latest patch. Is Bakery utterly empty? Cause in patchnotes its listed next to Inn, and that got 4 nice scenes with innkeeper. So one would thought that in patch named "A Little Something Sweet" there would be some content in there. While whole bakery shtick seems to get(hidden behind one time encounter, mind you) cow to eat cake, cow likes cake in about 3 lines of text. 3 different foods for champ, 3 another lines. Am I dumb or is it all? That's less text than some terrain blurbs.

 

[CantThinkOfOne]

From a mechanics point of view, I can get behind the introduction of the level cap raise (from 6 to 10) and the consumables (Stat boost). The former feels necessary once you get roam the Undermountain while the latter makes earning gold meaningful.

I think it was said the level cap was going to be increased next year and the undermountain was a level 7 zone? Anyone that needs the stat boosts are either lazy and want to spam through fights even more than they already can in this game (I rarely pay much attention in fights in the undermountain) or just bad.

Okay, taking the whole Savinsaga aside for a moment to ask about latest patch. Is Bakery utterly empty? Cause in patchnotes its listed next to Inn, and that got 4 nice scenes with innkeeper. So one would thought that in patch named "A Little Something Sweet" there would be some content in there. While whole bakery shtick seems to get(hidden behind one time encounter, mind you) cow to eat cake, cow likes cake in about 3 lines of text. 3 different foods for champ, 3 another lines. Am I dumb or is it all? That's less text than some terrain blurbs.

It probably is just meant to get you fat in contrast to the gym? I wouldn't be surprised if that's it.

 

[actualrealname]

Anyone that needs the stat boosts are either lazy and want to spam through fights even more than they already can in this game

Yes, this is basically the point. Combat in these games is ass, anything that lets you ignore it even more is good.

Probably Tobs, in his infinite wisdom, uses the smell of ash to portray the anguish and trauma of a burn victim in the same way an amateur chef finds out that his bacon is little bit too crispy.

It really just makes me think she hasn't washed since getting the scars tbh. No wonder no-one else wants her.