Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[acusrola]

Romance is handled like utter dogshit in this game. Girls just say they love you for seemingly no reason and with no build-up. Brienne, Arona, Atani, Kas, etc. all just start loving you for no reason and two of them just instantly love you. I think part of the reason why it's like this for Drifa is because they have this stupid rule of needing to have sex with them if you're submitting a character, so he probably just expedited the process. Only authors on the team are allowed to write non-smut for whatever reason.

Funnily enough, I find that Drifa really stands out from all the other characters, and not in a positive way. I don't remember any other character giving me the same reaction of "why is she saying / doing this now?" other than Drifa.

I like Brienne a lot, probably because wsan is a competent writer. Arona I dislike personally because I dislike orcs, don't ask, I don't know. Atani's quest (if she's the marefolks princess character) was fun enough, having the chance to marry, bang, and impregnate a princess is the bread and butter of this game (or what I like to read anyway..)

Kas is an interesting beast. I have tried to mod my save to give me high corruption, I scrolled through her scenes and from what I remember they were perfectly fine, don't remember a lot though. Maybe in the future when there's a pure version of her (the sprites are in the files) I can dive in more. The problem with Kas is, that I don't really see the champ as being a corrupt character.

CoC 1 had just some schmuck (I think? It's been a very long time since I've played CoC) entering through a portal, seeing the demon corrupted world might corrupt my character into becoming one as well. But CoC 2's protag is more fleshed out I think, and I personally don't see them as "capable" of becoming someone corrupt. Though, admittedly that's probably my bias on show too, as I tend to project my own moral compass to all my characters, more or less.

Edit: My post turned into a ramble and I think I missed your original point by a few miles...

 

[MoneyMan181]

Well that explains a whole helluva lot. On the one hand I do agree with the self-sufficient rule, cuz submitting a character that is only 25% done and the writer disappearing would suck a lot. But on the other hand, this happens.

Or the writer can just, y'know, work on them like normal until the sex shows up instead of jizzing their pants at the thought of their character getting added and rushing things.

Kas is an interesting beast. I have tried to mod my save to give me high corruption, I scrolled through her scenes and from what I remember they were perfectly fine, don't remember a lot though. Maybe in the future when there's a pure version of her (the sprites are in the files) I can dive in more. The problem with Kas is, that I don't really see the champ as being a corrupt character.

You don't have to be corrupt to bang and romance her. My champ has like 10 corruption and has never gone above like 25. Just chill and cloister for a bit whenever you get some corruption. Either that or kiss Cait daily because that removes corruption for some reason.

Edit: My post turned into a ramble and I think I missed your original point by a few miles...

You did, but that's fine. I like hearing and responding to ramblings.

For all the shit that could be better, I will say Moira's art consistently hits for me. Very glad that they became the main artist for the busts.

Definitely better than Adjatha that's for sure.

Now if only they could actually get her to replace DCL's busts...

 

[Kallisto]

Jstar should've never said he agreed with it. Just keep posting this screenshot when asked and we would all know why that scene feels too quick.

 

[Rickart]

Its sad because a lot of writers I've interacted with, behave in this way.

Double 'writers are retards'.

Always sucks when writers/creatives act that way. In my experience it's because they can't divorce themselves from their work, so any criticism of their work feels like the critic not understanding them at best or a personal attack at worst. It's a lack of professionalism that's very common in younger, newer, or hobbyist writers. Namely the type who you'd likely find writing in internet communities, though even professionally published writers aren't immune to this shit.

 

[Kallisto]

For all the shit that could be better, I will say Moira's art consistently hits for me. Very glad that they became the main artist for the busts.

Yeah I agree. While i have some small issues with her stuff, it's much better than how DCL's has turned out. Now everyone he does looks super short, very chiselled, and very childish? Just looks off to me.

 

[acusrola]

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Jstar should've never said he agreed with it. Just keep posting this screenshot when asked and we would all know why that scene feels too quick.

Fuck me, I'm not a native speaker but I like to think I can understand English well enough. Still:

... Drfia's first draft was rejected wasn't that it wasn't even that sex wasn't eventually planned...

I think there is an easier way of saying that.

 

[claralover]

Well "thick girl that is willing to get bread" usually rocks few boats here and there. But than again, Lumia can not exactly get pregnant so maybe that is what is taking the wind out of its sails.

it's exactly that, it feels like there's no impact to interacting with her at the moment

 

[claralover]

Here's probably why.


Personally if I see something was written by gardeford, bubs, savin, tobs or skow then I dismiss it instantly and don't even bother reading what it's about in the patch notes. I've been following this game on and off long enough to know that these people couldn't write something decent even if their life depended on it.
If I see something was written by will, B or wsan I at least read what the stuff they wrote is about in the patch notes before 9 times out of 10 dismissing it too cause it's just more shit I'm not into. And if I look at their track record from the last two or so years those 3 are barely any better than the other writers anymore anyways in my opinion.

it sounds like you're dismissing about 95% of the content lmao, soooo why even play the game at that point?

 

[acusrola]

Or the writer can just, y'know, work on them like normal until the sex shows up instead of jizzing their pants at the thought of their character getting added and rushing things.

I think this is the good ending, having the focus and will to write something whole instead of giving up midway and doing the sex scenes in a rush.

I actually enjoy amateur writing (as in writing, not necessarily reading), and I wrote a 77 page document for a character, with maybe roughly 60 or so pages of content (rest being notes on the character, history and the like). It's a Part 1 (of three planned), but I gave up on the CoC submission about six months in and turned to just writing a story instead.

I think the thread is still somewhere on the fenoxo forums.

Edit: fuck me I also found the other document I made afterwards for a different character, about 40 pages. Too busy, entirely forgotten about them.

 

[Wrynn13]

Fuck me, I'm not a native speaker but I like to think I can understand English well enough. Still:



I think there is an easier way of saying that.

I'm not sure Tobs can speak plain language at this point. At least it wasn't a wall of text like usual.

 

[MoneyMan181]

I'm not sure Tobs can speak plain language at this point. At least it wasn't a wall of text like usual.

I actually went back and read it out loud, it sounds like you're having a stroke when you hear yourself say it

 

[Quintilus]

Or the writer can just, y'know, work on them like normal until the sex shows up instead of jizzing their pants at the thought of their character getting added and rushing things.

MA!!!! MAAA!!!!!! GET ME A NEW PANTS!!!! I CREAMED MYSELF BECAUSE MY CHARACTER WAS ADDED INTO A PORN GAME AND FUCKED THERE SOMEONE!!!!!! ISNT IT A SUCCESS!?!?!?!?
Why you crying mom??

 

[HuooPoon]

So is the quest just have random NPCs to accuse or is it just one?

 

[Quintilus]

Holy fuck can we get ONE fucking character that doesn't sleep around and have sex with other people? I am so unbelievably sick of these characters getting boned by someone else. It doesn't even fucking provide anything unless you're jerking off to getting cucked with one sentence. What the fuck is the point of showing us she's pregnant if we're not the ones getting her pregnant? What's the point of her telling us she gets reamed by Valkyries on the regular? These devs have such blatant voyeurism/cuck fetishes, there's literally no getting away from this shit. Holy fuck man I wish this thread went the way of the 4chan one so I wouldn't feel obligated to look at this train-wreck.

Well, characters that fucks with each other is okay. There are plenty of porn games where player is an observer (in a good meaning of this word) without any ntr/voyeurism/etc elements, both text and...ehh, non-text? I mean, world that doesnt rotates around players 'child bearing organ' is a good thing.

Concept of goddess of fertility that personally bear children for families that suffers from sterility and asked zeus for gods help here is a kinky, cool, 10 out of 10 on the fingertips, GOTY, approved by chuck norris personally, etc. Player literally able to do a gods work and spread his progeny to entire world in the meantime.
Also this could be extended to the quote unquote 'bad end' where goddess decided 'hmmmm, you such a passionate lover, such passion should been spread around the world to increase amoung of my followers', kidnap player and forces him to mate with her for all of eternity, effectively putting 'child bearing' duty on industrial conveyor rails. Not the kind of bad ends that we deserves, really. Fuck, now I the one who creamed pants...

But here it made in such way that its looks/reads/feels like a spite on...someone??? for...something??? than...anything character related really.

 

[Biostar]

Or the writer can just, y'know, work on them like normal until the sex shows up instead of jizzing their pants at the thought of their character getting added and rushing things.

But muh arbitrary deadline.

 

[HuooPoon]

Also this could be extended to the quote unquote 'bad end' where goddess decided 'hmmmm, you such a passionate lover, such passion should been spread around the world to increase amoung of my followers', kidnap player and forces him to mate with her for all of eternity, effectively putting 'child bearing' duty on industrial conveyor rails. Not the kind of bad ends that we deserves, really. Fuck, now I the one who creamed pants...

So FemKeros?

 

[jfmherokiller]

does Atugia have any redeeming qualities? so far the only thing she has possibly going for her is the whole head not attached thing.

 

[Sin-xix]

I haven't checked the new Lumia content. Can anyone explain what did the writers shit over now regarding her preg content?

 

[Wrynn13]

does Atugia have any redeeming qualities? so far the only thing she has possibly going for her is the whole head not attached thing.

being a pale freckled redhead is a prime quality. At least for me it is anyways...

 

[IcemanR]

I liked the update personally, the elven lore was pretty cool... leagues better than the magic puppy trap fiasco. Learning about Etheryn and Daliza's family history during the war had to be somewhat interesting to those who actually find the characters enjoyable.