YouShallNotLol

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If he got involved with the game through a kickstarter backer tier, at best he'll have a direct line of communication with the dev that's implementing whatever he's requested, but that's all it could possibly be. He's not the one writing for the character, at best they might make changes based on his feedback of what's already there. Any kickstarter I've seen that's included backer tiers that get in-game characters or items are pretty explicit about that sort of stuff. Plus I've seen zero evidence of Tobs knowing japanese beyond basic stuff weebs know.
To be fair, I never said he was a writer for that game. I said that he copy-pasted his kitsunes into another game.
And of course he doesn't know japanese, because he's chinese:
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Which also sheds some light on why his kitsunes are written to be so toxic.

EDIT: Found his own words.
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Upcoming game Elin, that got funded through Kickstarter. As a backer, Tobs forked over enough money to get a whole ass race of his choosing incorporated into that game.
Of course he exported his kitsunes. Including Shojo Kinu:
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That just seems a wee bit weird to me. Like I get it, you love your characters but.... bruh. Mans trying to kickstart the Tobsverse. But hey, I don't have an OC of my own. So I imagine something like this must be a nice feeling. Granted it also opens it up to be lewded like hell if it picks up. And he doesn't seem like he would be a fan of the full brunt of what the internet would have instore.

Hell I'm living proof of power being in the wrong hands. Because lord knows if I had kept up with my artistry and moved into animation. The pure amount of fuckery I would engage in would be legendary, within reason of course. I'm not a complete uncaring asshole. But the internet has so much drama and with the right skills and petty... there's great chaos to be weaved.
 
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YouShallNotLol

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That just seems a wee bit weird to me. Like I get it, you love your characters but.... bruh. Mans trying to kickstart the Tobsverse. But hey, I don't have an OC of my own. So I imagine something like this must be a nice feeling. Granted it also opens it up to be lewded like hell if it picks up. And he doesn't seem like he would be a fan of the full brunt of what the internet would have instore.

Hell I'm living proof of power being in the wrong hands. Because lord knows if I had kept up with my artistry and moved into animation. The pure amount of fuckery I would engage in would be legendary, within reason of course. I'm not a complete uncaring asshole. But the internet has so much drama and with the right skills and petty... there's great chaos to be weaved.
Tobs was never against making porn of Kinu. Getting hands on Kinu was taboo only for the CoC2 players. Tobs' personal thread on fenoxo forum is full of commissioned drawings of Kinu getting railed and impregnated.
 

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To be fair, I never said he was a writer for that game.
It's not dejavu, it's actual TOBS content.
This could easily be misconstrued as you saying just that.
he's chinese
I had a vague recollection of this being the case but I couldn't be arsed to look it up.

Leaving all of that aside, you said you were gonna sodomize the Kinu in that jrpg, but I don't remember seeing any indication of it having explicit sexual content. I have only seen the kickstarter promotional video, to be fair.
 
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Honestly changing the quest to be that the mc is asked to deliver the bag to the Kitsune. Later we find out Evergreen had us smuggle a magical nuke inside the Den would solve everything. If you want Kinu and her mom freed make it so that Evergreen knows of a way but she needs help from other mages. Of course Rindo was with Kohaku on a trade run so they were spared.
ah... oh right I was trying to handle 1 flag to make it theoretically possible to just "copy paste" between versions. ... Nuke could theretically be possible If I can remember how to make/detach tiles from the map. And for freeing kinu and such... Maybe I could somehow set it up to where you need to give some kind of information (via a flag) to the Chapel of Velun (for the sake of my own sanity I dont feel like handling items because that usually requires art assets).


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Correction: I keyboard smashed my way to victory.
 
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Upcoming game Elin, that got funded through Kickstarter. As a backer, Tobs forked over enough money to get a whole ass race of his choosing incorporated into that game.
Of course he exported his kitsunes. Including Shojo Kinu:
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Neat. I can't help but respect that level of autism. Really looking forward to Elin too since I pumped at least 500 hours into Elona split between plus and oomSEST .
 

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Tobs was never against making porn of Kinu. Getting hands on Kinu was taboo only for the CoC2 players. Tobs' personal thread on fenoxo forum is full of commissioned drawings of Kinu getting railed and impregnated.
Oh I know he wasn't against it. In one of my many expeditions to learn of past tomfoolery. I saw mention that his profile pic was a commission he had of her getting dicked down. Believe by another one of his characters? Which I found hilarious considering how he seemed up to that point. But I'm curious, commissioned by whom? It's one thing to get weird on your own terms. Another if someone else joins in, even if the end result is the same. We all know these folks have quite the penchant for watching and making us do the same.
 

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Cut that out.
Though I should be less vague this time.
To YouShallNotLol You especially.

I love taking the piss out of "X, the writer".
But it gets a bit too, frankly, weird and personal to throw shots at "X, the individual".
At that point, it's no longer critique. it's just, strange. Don't be strange.

Now that we're here, however.
Really looking forward to Elin too since I pumped at least 500 hours into Elona split between plus and oomSEST .
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wtf why! Marco is a perfectly valid English name.
His name in japanese is Marco, and they "localized" it as Khushnood Butt in English? what is wrong with these people?
The best bit is that character is meant to be a Brazilian, where the name Marco Rodrigues was perfectly acceptable (Marco Luque used to be a comedian not too long ago) but I guess SNK just had a collective brainfart while trying not to go bankrupt. Again.

Okay that is just fucking ridiculous lmao

"Priestess", "Trickery" sounds like a carbon copy of CoC Tobs-lore too. Pretty insane.
Kizuami. Fucking hell.

That would explain the Kizuami there. Japanese has this sonoric aspect where names need to sound reasonably well and... yeah, this doesn't.

Mans trying to kickstart the Tobsverse.
Good on Kinu for finding her way out of Futaville. On a serious note, I think that's fine, he did just help a more promising game there anyway.

Oh I know he wasn't against it. In one of my many expeditions to learn of past tomfoolery. I saw mention that his profile pic was a commission he had of her getting dicked down. Believe by another one of his characters? Which I found hilarious considering how he seemed up to that point. But I'm curious, commissioned by whom? It's one thing to get weird on your own terms. Another if someone else joins in, even if the end result is the same. We all know these folks have quite the penchant for watching and making us do the same.
I believe the story goes that he did commission those. I also believe it was part of the salt mining bit?
 

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of course futa and preg.
1600 pages back I used to shit on futas. But this game singlehandedly make me like sub futas with the arona update lol. Curse you savin.

Now I realize that it's basically a very underrepresented fetish, futas are always doms and they never take, that and rarely are they written with both packages. Even in this game.
 

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How is futa this popular no disrespect or bs but aren't guys that are interested in futa and femboys gay? I'm confused because I know guys that love that stuff and still claim to be straight
I think it can be answered simply. Futa isn't about cock lust. It's about superimposing male sexuality onto the female form. It's arousing for males because it allows them to understand and relate to the pleasure of the futa. When people give futas huge cocks, it's because they're hyperfocusing on pleasure, not because they are inherently interested in huge cocks. When futas are on the bottom, the addition of a penetration-induced ejaculation removes the barrier of not being able to fully understand female orgasms. From what I've seen, futa is primarily made and consumed by straight males and the overlap with femboys is weak at best.
Reducing it to dick = gay immediately leads to bizarre inverse of cunt boys somehow being appealing to straight males.

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1600 pages back I used to shit on futas. But this game singlehandedly make me like sub futas with the arona update lol. Curse you savin.

Now I realize that it's basically a very underrepresented fetish, futas are always doms and they never take, that and rarely are they written with both packages. Even in this game.
Almost every futa protag game on this site is sub.
Its very common.
 
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1600 pages back I used to shit on futas. But this game singlehandedly make me like sub futas with the arona update lol. Curse you savin.
Another one falls. My condolences.
I think it can be answered simply. Futa isn't about cock lust. It's about superimposing male sexuality onto the female form. It's arousing for males because it allows them to understand and relate to the pleasure of the futa. When people give futas huge cocks, it's because they're hyperfocusing on pleasure, not because they are inherently interested in huge cocks. When futas are on the bottom, the addition of a penetration-induced ejaculation removes the barrier of not being able to fully understand female orgasms. From what I've seen, futa is primarily made and consumed by straight males and the overlap with femboys is weak at best.
Reducing it to dick = gay immediately leads to bizarre inverse of cunt boys somehow being appealing to straight males.

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Once again
There is no alternate dimension, no feat of mental gymnastics, no magical line of logic which will suddenly make wanting to suck or get fucked by a cock less homosexual. There is no reason to want the involvement of any penis but your own; it truly is that simple.
 

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What's going on here? Clearly Tobs succeeded in mining salt if Hobs is still enough to rile this place up.

Let's make the order of operations a bit more clear.
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No. The only thing they didn't do is make the game easily moddable because they didn't like that some mods existed. There's a difference between making additional tools to aid in modability and making a game more difficult to mod. The game IS moddable and had a mod.

The one mod that existed that had content, Drifa was added to the game nearly half a year before she ended up in CoC2 proper. The ability has always been there, nobody has cared to work on it and the short-lived modding scene died (partially as a result of not many people have the skillset necessary to work on it to begin with).

This isn't going to be a CoC1 situation where the writers already existed and so they just kept going after the game was... finished.

Nobody is waiting for a proper time. Nobody wants to "fix" the game at all.
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This isn't like CoC1
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TL;DR
Writers aren't happening
Programmers aren't happening
Mod isn't happening

Most of this was inspired by the sentiment that "the mod will fix it". We had one, it didn't do anything.
Wow really great breakdown, if anything I'd say simply by observing this is that the "Dev team" needs a bonified leader and not a boss (there is a difference) and that a solid direction was not had when making these games or else they wouldn't meander for years on end.
Also its pretty clear that most of the companions feel like half baked NPCs that got picked at random, they don't have character arcs or motivation to travel with us and they feel skin deep at best.
 

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There is no alternate dimension, no feat of mental gymnastics, no magical line of logic which will suddenly make wanting to suck or get fucked by a cock less homosexual. There is no reason to want the involvement of any penis but your own; it truly is that simple.
If we're going to bang rocks together and not think about it, then we should come up with a term for male homosexuals who aren't attracted to men, have not nor ever plan to have sex with men, and are still fully attracted to conventional females so we can join the alphabet. How about parahomoflexibles? Our color could be a tannish off-white and our slur could be flexxits. Our first big controversy could be championing a bill that would require women to wear strap-ons in public.
 
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