M0nte

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I am 110 percent fucking sure that Nakano is just Tobs' self insert at this point.

Marries the super op oc forced daughter, and if not her, the literal fucking player character (who is forced to be a female kitsune through magic.)

What the actual fuck lmao.
You forgot the third option. He gets to marry Rindo if Kinu is married of to Hitoshi.
And to be fair, he only gets to marry your daughter/Kinu if you so chose. And the other one is a bad end. Fun ending for me, as someone who likes brooding types.
 
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I wonder if it would be possible to trick Tobs into writing a Kitsune genocide as a "bad" ending.
I was actually thinking about something similar, when (or more likely IF) we get to drive away the kitsune along side whatever god it is that hates them, I wonder if it's going to be written as an atrocious, irredeemable act.
 

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I was actually thinking about something similar, when (or more likely IF) we get to drive away the kitsune along side whatever god it is that hates them, I wonder if it's going to be written as an atrocious, irredeemable act.
Oh most definitely lmao. If it ever becomes a thing, Tobs will do everything in his power to make sure that you are written as turbo-hitler.

Despite the fact that Kitsune are literal invaders. And he would never write an actual sacking or killing, at best they would be sent back to their world or whatever.
 
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With the upcoming release of Khorminos, its left me wondereing. At what stage of development is the game currently at Story wise? Is it the end of act 1 or the beginning of act 2, mostly due to the fact that they seem to be setting up something really ambitious, what with the
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Act 2 could realistically go on for a few areas (areas = new locations), possibly more than TITS. But the question is, are savin and his cohorts really willing to continue the story or will it prematurely end, as with TITS and the whole "Oh its 10 planets" just kidding fuck off you get 5?
 
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I am 110 percent fucking sure that Nakano is just Tobs' self insert at this point.

Marries the super op oc forced daughter, and if not her, the literal fucking player character (who is forced to be a female kitsune through magic.)

What the actual fuck lmao.
That's not even the worst part of that bad end. Nakano literally beats the game for you.
this is in the game.PNG
 
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That's not even the worst part of that bad end. Nakano literally beats the game for you.
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you've gotta wonder what they were thinking letting this into the game. kind of makes your whole role as champion a bit meh when the war would be won even if you just decided to go grow carrots or some shit.

I guess they'd say it's non-canon, but it's not like the world changes drastically there or anything, outcomes without the champion should be the same unless you fuck something up massively getting a particular end.
 

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you've gotta wonder what they were thinking letting this into the game. kind of makes your whole role as champion a bit meh when the war would be won even if you just decided to go grow carrots or some shit.

I guess they'd say it's non-canon, but it's not like the world changes drastically there or anything, outcomes without the champion should be the same unless you fuck something up massively getting a particular end.
This is actually a very interesting topic I once brought up.

Are the bad endings non-canon, or just alternate realities? Because there is a difference.

If they are non-canon, none of this matters. But if they are alternate realities, this means that Nakano has it in him to kill the big bad and we can just let Tobs's anime self take care of the evil dudes. None of it matters. The champion doesn't matter.

If it's non-canon, Kas's bad ending with the mouse dude doesn't matter, but if it's an alternate reality, then it's basically confirmed that Kas romantically loves the champion, in the main storyline.
 
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you've gotta wonder what they were thinking letting this into the game. kind of makes your whole role as champion a bit meh when the war would be won even if you just decided to go grow carrots or some shit.

I guess they'd say it's non-canon, but it's not like the world changes drastically there or anything, outcomes without the champion should be the same unless you fuck something up massively getting a particular end.
Agreed, but wouldn't Kasyrra fight even harder now that the champion has lost because they took something that was hers? And its a massive fuck you to your character, its not a disempowerement fantasy from what i see but they seem dead set on making you as useless as possible in your own party when your party members outweigh all your stats and you cant go out alone without being buttraped. Not to mention flismy character motivation, i mean i know that the threat off having your soul taken away is pretty bad, but why go on an adventure to stop it if she doesnt even go after you and instead goes off to do whatever? It forces you into playing good guy in a game where the original premise is that you can be as evil as you want.

This is actually a very interesting topic I once brought up.

Are the bad endings non-canon, or just alternate realities? Because there is a difference.

If they are non-canon, none of this matters. But if they are alternate realities, this means that Nakano has it in him to kill the big bad and we can just let Tobs's anime self take care of the evil dudes. None of it matters. The champion doesn't matter.

If it's non-canon, Kas's bad ending with the mouse dude doesn't matter, but if it's an alternate reality, then it's basically confirmed that Kas romantically loves the champion, in the main storyline.
Or maybe we can take the detour and decide which ones are canon and which ones arent based on what we know of the characters. From what i can remember, if you beat Nakano he loses in a pretty stupid way, not to mention he's like what a lvl 5? I dont believe Kasyrra lost to a lvl 5. Also its a stupid "bad" end. On the otherhand, theres Kas liking you romantically, which i really like and definitely prefer.
 
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Who is this mouse dude people are talking about? I want his bad end now.

Or we can take the detour and decide which ones are canon and which ones arent based on what we know of the characters. From what i can remember, if you beat Nakano he loses in a pretty stupid way, not to mention he's like what a lvl 5? I dont believe Kasyrra lost to a lvl 5. Also its a stupid "bad" end. On the otherhand, theres Kas liking you romantically, which i really like and definitely prefer.
I don't know if him being weak right now is a good argument for him not being able to defeat Kas, it is pretty believable that with time ( especially in the middle of a war) he grew as a fighter.
 

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If it's non-canon, Kas's bad ending with the mouse dude doesn't matter, but if it's an alternate reality, then it's basically confirmed that Kas romantically loves the champion, in the main storyline.
Yeah, that knocked it down a whole letter grade for me. It was pretty solid and actually touching until it became clear that Tobs was throwing Kas's character and the lore of demons out the window. What a ponce. Thank God it's not canon.

That wasn't enough to ruin it for me, though.
Who is this mouse dude people are talking about? I want his bad end now.
Master Whisper, the boss of Sander's quest.
 
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This is actually a very interesting topic I once brought up.

Are the bad endings non-canon, or just alternate realities? Because there is a difference.

If they are non-canon, none of this matters. But if they are alternate realities, this means that Nakano has it in him to kill the big bad and we can just let Tobs's anime self take care of the evil dudes. None of it matters. The champion doesn't matter.

If it's non-canon, Kas's bad ending with the mouse dude doesn't matter, but if it's an alternate reality, then it's basically confirmed that Kas romantically loves the champion, in the main storyline.
It's stupid, but to be fair I don't think it suggests Nakano personally beats Kas. He just stands out in the war against her, which is fine, as much as I dislike the way he's written he's clearly meant to be a strong fighter, some random guard wouldn't even be worth including as a fight for a low level party.

Agreed, but wouldn't Kasyrra fight even harder now that the champion has lost because they took something that was hers? And its a massive fuck you to your character
Yeah this is my issue, you'd expect her to basically come directly after you, with how obsessed she is over you. The whole "your entire quest is pointless because Kas loses anyway" is what I dislike with that ending, and it being inconsistent with most of the other bad ends.

Even if they're non-canon, if it's in the game it still impacts how the player views the story. Bad ends should be actual bad endings, not "and everyone lived happily ever after" lol.
 
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I don't know if him being weak right now is a good argument for him not being able to defeat Kas, it is pretty believable that with time ( especially in the middle of a war) he grew as a fighter.
Yeah ill admit its not the best argument, but it still affects how you view the story, and not in a good way. Case in point its a disgrace that its considered a "bad ending". And that makes me irritated.

Even if they're non-canon, if it's in the game it still impacts how the player views the story. Bad ends should be actual bad endings, not "and everyone lived happily ever after" lol.
Whoa buddy, you're going to far, we here at the Fenoxo Forums prefer to use the term "alternative endings" to describe those endings over the way to strong "b-word ending :sick:". Frankly, the mention of such a word, "bad", is insulting to our lord and saviour Tobs the wise. Like many great philosophers before him, his verbose and frankly baroque form of the written word is beneath us just like Kinu/Champion is to Nakano in every way shape or form.
 

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How do we do the new Cait stuff that was added in 0.3.38? I did notice a star south of Hawkthorne, but the tile is greyed out and I can't travel to it
 
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