Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Skandranon]

They're mostly Tobs' characters, and he has an idea for the endpoint of all of them and the overall direction of the kitsune storyline, so anyone writing them has to stick somewhat to a plan.

Bubbles is trying to give people Azami content and, according to him at least, his Patreon likes this particular direction for Taka/Azami.

Personally I'm not against the idea of an NPC couple you can get down with (Livrea's parents look great) but, uh...Takahiro sucks. He doesn't deserve nice things.

Honestly I always thought Tifa was supposed to win regardless of that happening. Most of the reason Cloud and Aerith are into each other is because he's acting like Zack basically the entire time they knew each other. He was pretty much just the rebound after what happened to Zack lmao. Also Tifa basically said "Fuck saving the world, I'm going to take care of Cloud.". If that doesn't scream they're supposed to get together, idk what does. People who argue for Aerith are delusional imo.

Oh, Tifa was already going to win, no doubt.

My point was more that they killed off his other even slight possibilities to eliminate even a question...and there's still questions.

That's just how strong New Girl syndrome is in comparison to childhood friend shipping.

 

[BlacJak]

Baby-bag.

That is all.

 

[MoneyMan181]

From what I understand, Azami wasn't supposed to have any content at all, but people liked her enough to ask for content, and the devs decided to oblige. It's not just Azami x Takahiro content: the PC is going to get them back together, with the option of participating in a threesome with them.

Though IDK if it's the salt mine or what, but I have no clue why they'd think people asking for Azami content wanted something like this LMAO.

I know about the threesome but it still definitely feels like the writer just doing whatever they want rather than listening to what others want. Do they think there's an overlap of people who want to sex Azami and Takahiro? Because I'm 99% certain there isn't lmao. That's literally the only reason they'd do it this way if they're even trying to pretend to listen to fans. But like I said, I heavily doubt anybody wanted both at the same time so why do it this way? Only thing I can think of is the writer just simps for Takahiro and this is just an excuse to get their silly ship into the game.

A shame because I actually liked her design and art. Not that I'd fuck her anyway because she's probably a piece of shit like the others, but still.

They're mostly Tobs' characters, and he has an idea for the endpoint of all of them and the overall direction of the kitsune storyline, so anyone writing them has to stick somewhat to a plan.

Bubbles is trying to give people Azami content and, according to him at least, his Patreon likes this particular direction for Taka/Azami.

Personally I'm not against the idea of an NPC couple you can get down with (Livrea's parents look great) but, uh...Takahiro sucks. He doesn't deserve nice things.




Oh, Tifa was already going to win, no doubt.

My point was more that they killed off his other even slight possibilities to eliminate even a question...and there's still questions.

That's just how strong New Girl syndrome is in comparison to childhood friend shipping.

Aaaaand, you have to go and say that to invalidate everything I said lmao. I figured Takahiro was just Bubble's thing that Tobs just said fine to being in there. Well whatever, I guess everything I just said applies to Tobs rather than Bubbles then, but the point still stands. Just reinforces the idea that the guy only writes for himself. Still don't know how he got away putting his dumbass weeb fetish land into the game on company time.

In terms of the Tifa vs Aerith contest: Even when the childhood friend wins, it still feels like a loss when all these bastards go around shipping Cloud and Aerith

Welcome to Corruption of Champions were 75% of all new content is stuff no one wants and 50% of that 75% involves a girl with a dick bigger than your arm

Didn't someone post a popularity poll with futa being one of the top 3? If that's the case, then that means people do actually want that stuff in the game, no?

 

[OmegaZero21]

Didn't someone post a popularity poll with futa being one of the top 3? If that's the case, then that means people do actually want that stuff in the game, no?

And where is this so called poll? Cause I've never seen or heard about it before

 

[muschi26]

Didn't someone post a popularity poll with futa being one of the top 3? If that's the case, then that means people do actually want that stuff in the game, no?

Yeah, and statistically speaking, didn't someone point out that futa was like 14% of the characters or some low-ish number like that?

The problem with futa IMO, and the reason it gets so blown out of proportion by people who dislike it, is the "trap" factor. Players will already start forming their opinion on characters just by looking at them, and it's a real letdown when what looks to you like an attractive woman ends up having a dick (if you're not into that), so it sticks with you longer.

Hell, on rare occasions the writers intentionally mislead the player, or bank on the fact that the player might be making looser decisions about who they fuck (because it's a porn game), in the hopes of going "gotcha", or "judging" the player on their behaviour (e.g. Evelyn in CoC2, Nayna in TiTS), which IMO just feels like trolling, and does not help the situation.

And where is this so called poll? Cause I've never seen or heard about it before

I don't have the poll, but the story is this: some time back, I asked on the Fenoxo forums about the option to de-dick some futa chartacters in TiTS, and Savin replied to me by saying that they wouldn't do it, because (in addition to technical difficulties relating to how sex scenes are constructed) they had polled their patrons and futa was in the top 3 most popular fetishes. Now, CoC2 might not have the exact same fanbase as TiTS, but I figured that there would be enough similarity to assume that futa must be in a similarly high position among the general fanbase.

 

[Skandranon]

The poll has been posted a few times in this thread, you can probably find it pretty easy.

Futa and preg (yuck) are basically the top 2 I think.

Yeah, and statistically speaking, didn't someone point out that futa was like 14% of the characters or some low-ish number like that?

That was me.

There's an ongoing count of gender ratio in this game that's updated monthly. Futa is the smallest by a lot. There are around...four times as many females as futa I do believe.

Negative confirmation bias basically accounts for people's impressions.

 

[Kroenen12]

Yeah, and statistically speaking, didn't someone point out that futa was like 14% of the characters or some low-ish number like that?

And where is this so called poll? Cause I've never seen or heard about it before

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1-Monstergirls/boys (1104 votes)
2-futanari(992 votes)
3-pregnancy(872 votes)

 

[Wrynn13]

You know, now I'm kind of feeling a twinge of inspiration to write a story where the PC manages to win over Azami with a lot of hard work and dedication…

…but there's not way in hell they'd accept it if I submitted it, so I'm not even going to bother.

Why have the PC work hard when all he apparently has to do is be a drunkard?

 

[Wrynn13]

The poll has been posted a few times in this thread, you can probably find it pretty easy.

Futa and preg (yuck) are basically the top 2 I think.




That was me.

There's an ongoing count of gender ratio in this game that's updated monthly. Futa is the smallest by a lot. There are around...four times as many females as futa I do believe.

Negative confirmation bias basically accounts for people's impressions.

The problem isn't by character but by character content. I'm sure it's far far worse in TITS but I'd bet you the ratio of content for futa characters is a much higher ratio, especially if you leave out companions.

 

[OmegaZero21]

Yeah, and statistically speaking, didn't someone point out that futa was like 14% of the characters or some low-ish number like that?

The problem with futa IMO, and the reason it gets so blown out of proportion by people who dislike it, is the "trap" factor. Players will already start forming their opinion on characters just by looking at them, and it's a real letdown when what looks to you like an attractive woman ends up having a dick (if you're not into that), so it sticks with you longer.

Hell, on rare occasions the writers intentionally mislead the player, or bank on the fact that the player might be making looser decisions about who they fuck (because it's a porn game), in the hopes of going "gotcha", or "judging" the player on their behaviour (e.g. Evelyn in CoC2, Nayna in TiTS), which IMO just feels like trolling, and does not help the situation.



I don't have the poll, but the story is this: some time back, I asked on the Fenoxo forums about the option to de-dick some futa chartacters in TiTS, and Savin replied to me by saying that they wouldn't do it, because (in addition to technical difficulties relating to how sex scenes are constructed) they had polled their patrons and futa was in the top 3 most popular fetishes. Now, CoC2 might not have the exact same fanbase as TiTS, but I figured that there would be enough similarity to assume that futa must be in a similarly high position among the general fanbase.

It might be a small number of characters but the concept that a large amount of those small numbers come from random encounters that occur pretty often the numbers appears skewered. And as for the polls so far all that means is that SUPPOSEDLY at SOME point in time their MIGHT have been a poll that stated Futunari was popular.

 

[muschi26]

Negative confirmation bias basically accounts for people's impressions.

That's the point I was trying to make, but I suck at communicating, so my version was needlessly wordy.

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Pregnancy coming in third, God bless.

Why have the PC work hard when all he apparently has to do is be a drunkard?

Why would she fall in love with another drunkard if she already has her hands full with one? The work would be to have her realize that clinging to an old romance that didn't work out isn't a healthy thing, especially when the subject of her attraction is a drunkard and a horrible person all around.

 

[Wrynn13]

From what I understand, Azami wasn't supposed to have any content at all, but people liked her enough to ask for content, and the devs decided to oblige. It's not just Azami x Takahiro content: the PC is going to get them back together, with the option of participating in a threesome with them.

Though IDK if it's the salt mine or what, but I have no clue why they'd think people asking for Azami content wanted something like this LMAO.

It's absolutely the salt mine. Oh you guys want more of this character? Fine here you go in a way you'll hate.

 

[Tau_Iota]

Hell, on rare occasions the writers intentionally mislead the player, or bank on the fact that the player might be making looser decisions about who they fuck (because it's a porn game), in the hopes of going "gotcha", or "judging" the player on their behaviour (e.g. Evelyn in CoC2, Nayna in TiTS), which IMO just feels like trolling, and does not help the situation.

Not to nitpick, but Evelyn is literally introduced with a girl sucking her dick. Like it's made abundantly clear that her knob is getting polished. If you assumed that she did not have a dick while her dick was in a girl's mouth that's on you isn't it? Although yeah I'm pretty sure Nayna's genitals is left a mystery until you're done with her fetch quest.

 

[muschi26]

Not to nitpick, but Evelyn is literally introduced with a girl sucking her dick. Like it's made abundantly clear that her knob is getting polished. If you assumed that she did not have a dick while her dick was in a girl's mouth that's on you isn't it? Although yeah I'm pretty sure Nayna's genitals is left a mystery until you're done with her fetch quest.

That's my bad, then. I tend to go through some of the text a little quickly, so all I remember is that the menu option to have sex with her leads to her going "Oh, you thought you were going to be the one fucking me? Uno reverse card, biatch!"

 

[Wrynn13]

Why would she fall in love with another drunkard if she already has her hands full with one? The work would be to have her realize that clinging to an old romance that didn't work out isn't a healthy thing, especially when the subject of her attraction is a drunkard and a horrible person all around.

By being a competent drunkard instead of a useless one of course. Hey check out all these quests I've done for the den, while absolutely smashed. Either way as long as she gets saved from him I'm good really.

 

[Skandranon]

The problem isn't by character but by character content. I'm sure it's far far worse in TITS but I'd bet you the ratio of content for futa characters is a much higher ratio, especially if you leave out companions.

You'd probably be wrong.

All if the major characters in this game that get the most content are female.

Kiyoko, Cait, Brienne, etc.

The only futa that gets that kind of attention is Kas.

I mean....look at this past month.

Huge whack of content for Aileh. Involved pregnancy with lots of variation for sheep girl. Zo preg, Livrea.

Arona got a scene, and some talks.
We got one new futa character with like...4 scenes.

It's not even close. Both content wise and number wise this game leans waaaaaay in the female direction.

 

[Wrynn13]

You'd probably be wrong.

All if the major characters in this game that get the most content are female.

Kiyoko, Cait, Brienne, etc.

The only futa that gets that kind of attention is Kas.

I mean....look at this past month.

Huge whack of content for Aileh. Involved pregnancy with lots of variation for sheep girl. Zo preg, Livrea.

Arona got a scene, and some talks.
We got one new futa character with like...4 scenes.

It's not even close. Both content wise and number wise this game leans waaaaaay in the female direction.

I didn't mean to imply more than female, just a much higher percentage by content than by character.

 

[Skandranon]

I didn't mean to imply more than female, just a much higher percentage by content than by character.

I get what you mean, I think, that futa characters generally have more content per character than female characters - and I don't think that's quite how it is.

 

[Tau_Iota]

That's my bad, then. I tend to go through some of the text a little quickly, so all I remember is that the menu option to have sex with her leads to her going "Oh, you thought you were going to be the one fucking me? Uno reverse card, biatch!"

Ah the ol' unexpected facing of the consequences of my own actions. Just messin, it happens to me on occasion. Especially with ubiquitous options like "Ride Her". Sometimes it means you get on her cowgirl style, other times it means you mount her doggystyle. You can imagine my pain when I was playing through as a male barbarian who's main thoughts were "Any hole is a goal" and "I have no desire to receive penis in my butt." Since the game doesn't really offer corruption content, I just roleplay my own corruption based on the current corruption level and the backstory I made up for my current character.

 

[Tau_Iota]

You'd probably be wrong.

All if the major characters in this game that get the most content are female.

Kiyoko, Cait, Brienne, etc.

The only futa that gets that kind of attention is Kas.

I mean....look at this past month.

Huge whack of content for Aileh. Involved pregnancy with lots of variation for sheep girl. Zo preg, Livrea.

Arona got a scene, and some talks.
We got one new futa character with like...4 scenes.

It's not even close. Both content wise and number wise this game leans waaaaaay in the female direction.

And let's not talk about all of the content starved men lmao Females definitely get the most love from the devs