Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.32] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Daken9]

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

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Please, delete that spoiler. It's a threat to any human's braincells. Holy shit. In my ultimate run i'm not having Kinu. Holy fuck. Someone please tell Wsan to take a look over here. Statistically Best Girl. Holy shit x2.

 

[Bloep]

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So She's gonna have a hard pure fem->pure male transformation like Brint?

 

[Shiro15]

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."

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I never really understood the hate for Cait, but I also don't really like Cait either.

My feelings on Cait is she's just a pornstar. Free Jerk off material that I don't have to think about later.

Where as Brienne is the extra freaky Girlfriend. You like her, but its because you got to actually know her. All the freaky sex is just the cherry on top.

If Cait had an actual personality beyond sex she could be fun. Personally I'd turn her into the knowledgeable older sister type. Even in the flavour text with other companions it made clear that Cait helps the others companions when they are emotionally down, or having some type of issue. I think you could easily turn into a Rangiku (from Bleach) type character as Rangiku is flirty but she's the most emotional avaible character and takes care of others like Orihime when she's feeling jealous of Rukia. It would do a lot to endear the player to Cait, as we know Cait has her own struggles, since her sister is missing.

 

[NODOGAN]

Can you impregnate Vivianne or is another barren waste womb? god i hope not.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

I have no idea what to feel about the Berwyn update.

Still going through it, but atm, it feels like a character assassination. The character feels as if he has nothing to do with the Berwyn of old.

Also what the fuck is up with losing all of his content once you finish his quest? So moronic.

 

[Thedude715]

Please, delete that spoiler. It's a threat to any human's braincells. Holy shit. In my ultimate run i'm not having Kinu. Holy fuck. Someone please tell Wsan to take a look over here. Statistically Best Girl. Holy shit x2.

XD I mean pretty sure that the general consensus is that kinu sucks right? Personally I just went nope to all the kitsune content as they just have an ocean of filler text attached to them.

Maybe this a me issue but I play/read both this game and TITS to get of not because I want an essay of every characters life and backstory, you need some ofcourse I am not saying remove everything but a lot of the later additions in both games have so MUCH fluff. Even some empty tiles have a shitload of text describing just the one tile like who cares honestly.

 

[Femboys and Futas]

I honestly disagree with their not being enough content to flesh Berwyn out. In most of Berry's interactions with the Champion and much of his flavor text with other companions its established that he loves magic,reading and wants to go on adventures (which is why him just retiring is weird to me). The other thing that is made clear in one of his dialogues is that he becomes frustrated once he realizes that Mathila had been purposely weakening his magic and teaching him improperly. This establishes that Berry is not that strong of mage, which is once again kind of goes against him suddenly being this god tier mage at the end. It also sets up that Mathila had some alternate plan in the works, but well probably never know the direction that story would have taken as the original writer left. The cuddlefuck scene also shows that Berry can be tender with the champion and their sex life isn't purely dom or sub.

In fact I'm pretty sure the writer said Berry's more romantic path is him learning to let his guard down around the champion, as Berry has trust issues from the events with Mathila and his parents, and he would be willing to becoming something different if lead to his partner accepting him. I think this is part of the reason he's okay with Mathila slowly changing him into a girly boy, as he clearly trusted Mathila at the beginning and probably accepted it to make her happy.

Pretty sure it was B who said this as it was them defending Berry getting a gender swap. I also believe he came to this conclusion after talking with the original writer. But take what I'm saying here with a grain of salt as I can't find the quote and don't follow the development closely enough to be sure.

Point I'm trying to make is if given enough room to grow a lot of Berry's arc could have been something really interesting without destroying his established lore. Him being a sincere lover who supports the champion through their struggles or femboy that doms the shit out of the champ could have worked. There is a potential arc for him becoming a god tier mage that surpasses his master. It could have been meaningful if he was given proper attention and time to grow into it. But it feels rather rushed. Which from what I've been reading here about the games development makes sense.

Now don't take this as me dumping on B. Like FetishGirl Pointed out B had to account for multiple variables based off the potential transformations. B put in all this lore and tried to justify Berwyn's character in this quest. Considering what B had to deal with and the fact that he did not really want to write this character to begin with. I'd say he did a good job.

Now what actually does bother me about this game and makes me a little irritated is this game has potential. It honestly remind me of Mass Effect Andromeda or Mass Effect 3. Both have an interesting premise but for one reason or another they feel apart. Now while Mass Effect had a shitty publisher that was constantly micromanaging and got in the way of artist doing their jobs. CoC2 seems to have shitty management team that has no type of structure and randomly introduces new shit with no real type of plan what so ever.

Modders, write this shit down

 

[Biostar]

I never really understood the hate for Cait, but I also don't really like Cait either.

Most of the hate comes from how much she's inserted into everything and people not being fans of her polyamorous status. If either one of those factors were gone, she wouldn't get so much hate.

 

[Kroenen12]

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Dumb take to be sure, but anons on 4chan put him at Tobs' level because he wrote a lesbian scene for Rina. People on here and over there also been talking about the goblin rape for the longest time and still he found out like two weeks ago. I wanna believe he just lives in the bubble like most other writers not named Fleep and just assumes everyone not on discord/official forum is out for them.

 

[MarcusDBlack]

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Cait is pretty much a turboslut with a higher body count than the population of the Vatican, so it's pretty hard to develop her personality/story wise without changing her entirely. But the reason most people hate Cait is pretty much because she appear to be everywhere and loved by everyone fir some reason lol (try finding a character talking smack about her other than maybe lusamine).

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[Meblue]

If Monster Girl Dreams wasn't so femdom-centric and Lilith's Throne didn't get delayed every fortnight, I would honestly have ditched this game a long time ago.

 

[Quintilus]

If Monster Girl Dreams wasn't so femdom-centric and Lilith's Throne didn't get delayed every fortnight, I would honestly have ditched this game a long time ago.

I did it long ago and check from time to time is it still shit or no.
Spoiler, yes.

 

[Skandranon]

If Monster Girl Dreams wasn't so femdom-centric

How dare you speak such evil into the world.

 

[Doran]

I never really understood the hate for Cait, but I also don't really like Cait either.

My feelings on Cait is she's just a pornstar. Free Jerk off material that I don't have to think about later.

Where as Brienne is the extra freaky Girlfriend. You like her, but its because you got to actually know her. All the freaky sex is just the cherry on top.

If Cait had an actual personality beyond sex she could be fun. Personally I'd turn her into the knowledgeable older sister type. Even in the flavour text with other companions it made clear that Cait helps the others companions when they are emotionally down, or having some type of issue. I think you could easily turn into a Rangiku (from Bleach) type character as Rangiku is flirty but she's the most emotional avaible character and takes care of others like Orihime when she's feeling jealous of Rukia. It would do a lot to endear the player to Cait, as we know Cait has her own struggles, since her sister is missing.

Originally I was indifferent to slightly annoyed with Cait. What made me hate her was how if you fucked her once and are not a DK the writers make you absolutely gush over her. The whole anal thing after you complete her quests really pissed me off. I do no give a rat's ass about cait or her "pure" ass, so to have savin tell me how much I loved and cared for her, because I fucked a slut once, was infuriating.

XD I mean pretty sure that the general consensus is that kinu sucks right? Personally I just went nope to all the kitsune content as they just have an ocean of filler text attached to them.

Maybe this a me issue but I play/read both this game and TITS to get of not because I want an essay of every characters life and backstory, you need some ofcourse I am not saying remove everything but a lot of the later additions in both games have so MUCH fluff. Even some empty tiles have a shitload of text describing just the one tile like who cares honestly.

Yea, I do not think I've ever read the tile text for either game.

 

[Thedude715]

Originally I was indifferent to slightly annoyed with Cait. What made me hate her was how if you fucked her once and are not a DK the writers make you absolutely gush over her. The whole anal thing after you complete her quests really pissed me off. I do no give a rat's ass about cait or her "pure" ass, so to have savin tell me how much I loved and cared for her, because I fucked a slut once, was infuriating.

Yea, I do not think I've ever read the tile text for either game.

Yeah stating how your character is feeling in a rpg is a very dumb thing to do if you don't happen to share said feeling it is almost guaranteed to make you feel dissociated.

 

[Shiro15]

Most of the hate comes from how much she's inserted into everything and people not being fans of her polyamorous status. If either one of those factors were gone, she wouldn't get so much hate.

I always treated Cait like Isabella from DA2. Its just their personality. Sure its not my thing, but to each their own. I don't really care sense I typically play as a white mage, so...Cait is banished to the inn. If you don't want to see her fucking everything you can avoid that content. Her having a lot of content, I always expected that since she is literally the first character you meet.

Also my character fucks everything with the exception of Demons, so who am I to talk.

I guess an additional criticism I'll make (which I'm sure other people have already made) just give people a choice.

Because Isabella in DA2 (to my knowledge) does not get the same hate, and I believe its because if you pursue her romantically in DA2 she goes monogamus for the most part. (She'll try and sleep with Zeveran but you can tell her no and she'll respect your feelings.) But, I would just chalk that up to Isabella having an actual personality and the devs considering that players may feel differently than them. God I love classic Bioware (even though I still consider DA2 6/10 game on its best days.)

Edit: Essentially the problem with Cait could be fixed by simply by giving players and actual say in a rpg game. I sometimes wonder if the devs know what the first two letters in rpg stand for. But, yeah I guess I agree with the criticism some people have made of Cait.

 

[Meblue]

How dare you speak such evil into the world.

I've just never really been into femdom honestly. Except for that Witch Bunny Lady. She's legit the only character that made me genuinely enjoy femdom.

 

[Konstantinus]

I've just never really been into femdom honestly. Except for that Witch Bunny Lady. She's legit the only character that made me genuinely enjoy femdom.

Yeah I love Venefica too. Though I would not call the game femdom centric. It is more like Ryona but instead of fists you gonna seduce the other into the floor. Either you fuck the girls or you get fucked by them.

 

[Meblue]

Yeah I love Venefica too. Though I would not call the game femdom centric. It is more like Ryona but instead of fists you gonna seduce the other into the floor. Either you fuck the girls or you get fucked by them.

I suppose Femdom-centric is a bit of an overstatement, but the reason I say that it is so is because most of the Monster Girls have a PC-Loss scene but no PC-Win scene. Although the ones that do exist are pretty good though.

 

[Cricco]

I always treated Cait like Isabella from DA2. Its just their personality. Sure its not my thing, but to each their own. I don't really care sense I typically play as a white mage, so...Cait is banished to the inn. If you don't want to see her fucking everything you can avoid that content. Her having a lot of content, I always expected that since she is literally the first character you meet.

Also my character fucks everything with the exception of Demons, so who am I to talk.

I guess an additional criticism I'll make (which I'm sure other people have already made) just give people a choice.

Because Isabella (to my knowledge) does not get hate, and I believe its because if you pursue he romantically in DA she goes monogamus for the most part. (She'll try and sleep with Zeveran but you can tell her no and she'll respect your feelings.) But, I would just chalk that up to Isabella having an actuall personality and the devs considering that players may feel differently them. God I love classic Bioware (even though I still consider DA2 6/10 game on its best days.)

>1d uberslut
>Isabela



All that b Morinth does is kill best girl Samara and give you a game over and Cait would lose the personality contest anyway.