ZithL

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Good point I wonder what happened to the modding crew of CoC I?
Late reply, but as someone said, the team working on coc2 said they hated mods for coc1 because of their "shitty writing", and Savin also stated that "mods wont be supported". Also someone (bubble-lord) on the forums said that people could just submit content to the team, making mods pointless.
 

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Late reply, but as someone said, the team working on coc2 said they hated mods for coc1 because of their "shitty writing", and Savin also stated that "mods wont be supported". Also someone (bubble-lord) on the forums said that people could just submit content to the team, making mods pointless.
the "shitty writing" thing is just excuse fen, savin and rest use to forbid the mods. coc revamp had good writing, but they still bullied kitteh to abandon it. mainly savin with his obsession with helia, salamanders and the whole "dont touch my things" attitude.
and submitting content doesn't mean it will be automatically added to the game, especially if they didn't like the particular fetish/race/etc. that's the whole point of mods existing, to add things that dev didn't want to add or didn't even though to add.
 

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the "shitty writing" thing is just excuse fen, savin and rest use to forbid the mods. coc revamp had good writing, but they still bullied kitteh to abandon it. mainly savin with his obsession with helia, salamanders and the whole "dont touch my things" attitude.
and submitting content doesn't mean it will be automatically added to the game, especially if they didn't like the particular fetish/race/etc. that's the whole point of mods existing, to add things that dev didn't want to add or didn't even though to add.
You forgot to mention that these mods also allowed the champion to brutally murder companions, which didn't go very well with Fen and Savin.

Another thing is that modded versions of CoC1 weren't immediately obvious (blame how Flash works for that) and could be easily confused for the vanilla game.
 
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Theratul

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You forgot to mention that these mods also allowed the champion to brutally murder companions, which didn't go very well with Fen and Savin.

Another thing is that modded versions of CoC1 weren't immediately obvious (blame how Flash works for that) and could be easily confused for the vanilla game.
you mistaken kitteh rewamp mod with cocanon mod. kitteh's didn't had npc killing content. it's those sick virgins from 4/8chan added the whole killing of npcs and lolis.
p.s. at least I didn't remember such content in kitteh's. but the problem might been with that cocanon begun adding content from revamp to his mod and that whole shit blown up in everybody's modders faces
p.s.s the only thing I remembered about some killings in kitteh it's a killing of imps, to get their skulls to decorate the camp wall, which will reduce the chance of the night imp gangbang scene.
p.s.s.s and what do you mean the mods weren't immediately obvious? both those mods I mentioned had their main menu page altered with disclaimers and mentions of authors of mods and all that. it was not their problem that the most people a lazy fucks who never read anything...
 
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Guess I'm waiting 'til the next public build for an update.
It may also be just a DNS block by your ISP's DNS. You can change to another DNS:
Otherwise, a VPN would be an option.
Plus, Kinu's whole "I grew up and fuck you dad" and her sheer antagonism just seems to be borne of that hellspawn debacle, which makes no sense to me. Why punish the majority of your players with a character whose existence is to bitch, because a minority wanted something?
I don't believe inari Kinu has the "fuck you dad" mentality, but hime Kinu I believe has some of that based on what I've seen others describe it as.

I kinda want more interactions with the PC and Hitoshi. I saw the Takahiro/Hitoshi rice vignette and I was amazed the PC interacted with him for like one or two lines. You break my heart with Kinu, you should at least provide what most real life parents get as the consolation prize: becoming the dreaded in-laws. You know, showing up uninvited to Kinu's den, taking out the picture album that somehow contains Kinu's baby pictures and showing them to Hitoshi, and telling a story everyone has already heard for the 100th time.
there were post here with screenshot from steam about someone complaining of use of the world trap for trans before, but it's probably was deleted for whatever reason. I think porn_jesus was talking about it (but I'm not sure, it's kinda difficult sometimes to actually comprehend what you guys really mean...)
I can confirm this, and I agree that porn_jesus was responding to it.
Late reply, but as someone said, the team working on coc2 said they hated mods for coc1 because of their "shitty writing", and Savin also stated that "mods wont be supported". Also someone (bubble-lord) on the forums said that people could just submit content to the team, making mods pointless.
Seems like a pretty good summary.

"(bubble-lord) on the forums said that people could just submit content to the team, making mods pointless"
Oh cool, so I can submit an incest character with a watersports scene? What, that isn't allowed? Well darn, it is almost like mods supported by the engine would be easy to distribute separately with the player being able to tailor their experience by adding fetishes Patreon or the team banned, or having a mod writer retain the rights to their character.
the "shitty writing" thing is just excuse fen, savin and rest use to forbid the mods. coc revamp had good writing, but they still bullied kitteh to abandon it. mainly savin with his obsession with helia, salamanders and the whole "dont touch my things" attitude.
and submitting content doesn't mean it will be automatically added to the game, especially if they didn't like the particular fetish/race/etc. that's the whole point of mods existing, to add things that dev didn't want to add or didn't even though to add.
You did a pretty good job of mentioning what I just said, but you left out that the submission process transfers all rights of the content to Savin/(Fen?). Savin wants to protect his characters so much, but other people aren't allowed.
You forgot to mention that these mods also allowed the champion to brutally murder companions, which didn't go very well with Fen and Savin.
So, they don't want brutal murder of companions to exist in their game. Why would it be a problem for them to exist in mods?
 

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You did a pretty good job of mentioning what I just said, but you left out that the submission process transfers all rights of the content to Savin/(Fen?). Savin wants to protect his characters so much, but other people aren't allowed.
I actually forgot that submission basically mean that your content is forfeited to them. some legal theft, what this is I think.
 

ZithL

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So, they don't want brutal murder of companions to exist in their game. Why would it be a problem for them to exist in mods?
Savin (or one of the team members) said, as a reason for disliking mods, that "people would link the mod's content back to the original devs, whether that'd be bug reports or feedback."

they still bullied kitteh to abandon it.
Damn I didn't know about that, I just recently looked the revamp mod back up because I haven't checked on it in a long time and saw it was "finished". Talk about going over the top for a mod.
 

Theratul

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so, they made coc2 non flash game, but list the whole coc1swf distribution as a reason to not make coc2 mods friendly system? very smooth.
and how convenient to just completely disregard revamp mod and all it's good content, except ingnam 3 days prologue which is skippable, mind you.
the mess mods are, my ass. bunch of hypocrites. as if their games not a complete unorganized mess.
 
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OofSs

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it's those sick virgins from 4/8chan added the whole killing of npcs and lolis.
I actually do believe that’s what made mods look so infamous in the first place. I lurked there once and I could’ve sworn they were adding other game characters like Flandre into the mod and some disgusting baby stuff. There’s also Xianxia which I recall having the most low effort writing, stolen art and irrelevant edgy murdering onto other characters.

To be honest, I don’t know what they were expecting from giving out their own open source to people for them to mod the games in the first place. Obviously, some sicko is going to eventually get their dirty hands on it and add some horrendous fetishes into their mod anyways. At least they’ve learned their lesson from this and are now locking up their own code for good.

I understand that it’s upsetting for someone change the lore and make a fanfic out of their characters, but to just bully/harass them over it is just plain immature. Unless, it’s something disgusting like the hgg mod then yeah go all out.


You did a pretty good job of mentioning what I just said, but you left out that the submission process transfers all rights of the content to Savin/(Fen?). Savin wants to protect his characters so much, but other people aren't allowed.
I actually forgot that submission basically mean that your content is forfeited to them. some legal theft, what this is I think.
Not necessarily. Basically, you give the main dev legal right to put your content into your game, but you still have all rights to deny and approve other event submissions made on your characters to be submitted in game as canon. That’s why Tobs doesn’t have a problem writing his own stuff without worrying about Savin or anyone else messing with it, unless Savin tells him to do some modifications. The only thing this will play the “make changes to your content” part is if you abruptly disappear and leave your work planned/unfinished like JimT (Creator of Embry and Briha). If you are lucky, you could get paid for it or even get a part time job like William, but like the event submissions rules stated, you are only volunteering to put content into the game, not applying yourself for a job.

Unless, I read this all wrong and it was about something else then welp I guess I’ll just leave this here then.
 

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I actually do believe that’s what made mods look so infamous in the first place. I lurked there once and I could’ve sworn they were adding other game characters like Flandre into the mod and some disgusting baby stuff. There’s also Xianxia which I recall having the most low effort writing, stolen art and irrelevant edgy murdering onto other characters.

To be honest, I don’t know what they were expecting from giving out their own open source to people for them to mod the games in the first place. Obviously, some sicko is going to eventually get their dirty hands on it and add some horrendous fetishes into their mod anyways. At least they’ve learned their lesson from this and are now locking up their own code for good.

I understand that it’s upsetting for someone change the lore and make a fanfic out of their characters, but to just bully/harass them over it is just plain immature. Unless, it’s something disgusting like the hgg mod then yeah go all out.





Not necessarily. Basically, you give the main dev legal right to put your content into your game, but you still have all rights to deny and approve other event submissions made on your characters to be submitted in game as canon. That’s why Tobs doesn’t have a problem writing his own stuff without worrying about Savin or anyone else messing with it, unless Savin tells him to do some modifications. The only thing this will play the “make changes to your content” part is if you abruptly disappear and leave your work planned/unfinished like JimT (Creator of Embry and Briha). If you are lucky, you could get paid for it or even get a part time job like William, but like the event submissions rules stated, you are only volunteering to put content into the game, not applying yourself for a job.

Unless, I read this all wrong and it was about something else then welp I guess I’ll just leave this here then.
well, I got much negative opinion on them, so I like to think of it as theft. it's just my petty opinion. I realize that it not that bad as I think, but the whole volunteering content to game, instead of mods irks me some, savin always butthurting about changes to his chars, but it's completely fair to him have rights on subbed content/chars. that why people need mods, to have right to make them. imagine if Bethesda had savins butthurted opinion of mods and imagine their games without it, skyrim is one of the best games, but with mods its, its, I dont even have words to describe. of course it has fair share of trash mods, but there is so much of the good ones, like chesko forstall, which bethesda even added to skyrim special edition.
it's not that hard to add a mod support system and let people to decide if they want mods and which mods they need. but they just lazy I think.
 
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Cerneu

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imagine if Bethesda had savins butthurted opinion of mods and imagine their games without it, skyrim is one of the best games, but with mods its, its, I dont even have words to describe. of course it has fair share of trash mods, but there is so much of the good ones, like chesko forstall, which bethesda even added to skyrim special edition.
Sorry, but there's plenty of commercial video games that don't allow mods. Most game companies aren't as mod friendly as Bethesda.

If Savin doesn't want mods in his game then he has full rights to exclude them. Savin is not obligated to put anyone's original character into his game. It would be a bizzare world if the creator of a video game had no right to choose what ends up in it.
 
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