Martin2

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By the same time Savin agreed everyone else but the MC was too important to kill? (again I wouldn't mind a kill option to remove certain npc's/reduce the ratio of appearance of mobs in the game, I was just trying to ake a funny comment.)

P.S: Saying no to kill would make me a hypocrite because if there was a way to Kill Arona, destroy the entire Orc warcamp & enslave Hrethra & Infrith I would 100% do that shit.
but you can kill arona and destroy the camp.
 

NODOGAN

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but you can kill arona and destroy the camp.
But I don't get to play with Infrith/let Hrethra play with me in that route (So for the time being I'll help Arona if it means I get to leave her in the companions' daycare while playing with the SUPER THICC ORC PRIESTESSES!!)
 

tbs9090

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You also miss out on that hot scene where you can display your dominance in front of the entire warcamp if you have sub arona.
 
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destroyerofassholes

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What did Yugoslavia ever do man...?
Yugoslavia was a haphazardly made state consisting of many slavic ethnicities. Tito was its leader and was generally able to keep the country together despite massive tensions between ethncities, between the USSR and the West, it was one of the few communist countries that was not under direct USSR rule.

When Tito died, Serbians managed to get the most influence in the government and army and thought this was the best time to carve out a Greater Serbia and went all genocide-y on others, realizing that Yugoslavia was probably not gonna survive long without someone to ease tensions between the different peoples. It was so utterly bad and such unspeakable shit was done that NATO got involved and bombed the shit out of Serbia.

When Niko Bellic from GTA 4 talks about cutting the hands off kids and literally selling people and children, he is talking about the shit he did in that war.
 
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Is the cuck content for Cait even cuck content when you hold no serious romantical tie to the character that fucks literally anything and everything that moves anyways?
Oh lord let's keep the "NTR vs BSS" debate to a minimum. For some reason debates about fictional porn cuckoldry tend to get really heated.

*And for the record, yes it can definitely be cuck content because the whole cuck thing is based on character/reader perspective and not about actual relationship status.
 

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Yugoslavia was a haphazardly made state consisting of many slavic ethnicities. Tito was its leader and was generally able to keep the country together despite massive tensions between ethncities, between the USSR and the West, it was one of the few communist countries that was not under direct USSR rule.

When Tito died, Serbians managed to get the most influence in the government and army and thought this was the best time to carve out a Greater Serbia and went all genocide-y on others, realizing that Yugoslavia was probably not gonna survive long without someone to ease tensions between the different peoples. It was so utterly bad and such unspeakable shit was done that NATO got involved and bombed the shit out of Serbia.

When Niko Bellic from GTA 4 talks about cutting the hands off kids and literally selling people and children, he is talking about the shit he did in that war.
Damn, learn something new everyday!
 

NODOGAN

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I haven't played the modded version yet (I should) But to those that have I wanna ask one question:
Do the Wyld Elf racial option lets you finally pick horsecock as your wyld mark? (I saw mentions on how things like hair color & other stuff where changed on character creation so curious if the mod fixed Savin's fuckup)
 

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Is the cuck content for Cait even cuck content when you hold no serious romantical tie to the character that fucks literally anything and everything that moves anyways?
Honestly I see people complain about the NTR content in this game all the time but whenever I play it I barely ever see any content that doesn't involve the player. There's a decent amount of 3p or group scenes but barely anything that happens without the player's direct involvement.
 
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Honestly I see people complain about the NTR content in this game all the time but whenever I play it I barely ever see any content that doesn't involve the player. There's a decent amount of 3p or group scenes but barely anything that happens without the player's direct involvement.
On Cait, primary issue is they've wrote her very whiplash-y. When you start her interactions, shes not interested in a monogamous relationship, so no ntr (partner being stolen), just kind of accepting it's her actual religion to quite literally belongs to the streets. As her content's progressed though, they're really pushing her as a love interest/ ending option. Silly as the butt stuff is, you have a character that was saving an experience their life for someone special and can pick mc, story bonding moments like holding her when trying to rescue her sister, the options to thank her father for having her, the lovey scenes pre/post temple, her talking about how great the MC is and how eventually she'd like to remove her seal and have a kid with them.

It's easy for people uninterested in her banging everything to get mixed signals, and start seeing it as cucking or ntr fetish stuff when her and the MC are wrote so close but then she'll still use them as a living bed or run off down an alley with a wolf guy. People that like harem/pcsexual characters can feel misled or tricked. Her character is not only the village, but the world's, possibly the spirit realm's bicycle that wants to emotionally love, cuddle and kiss mc only basically. So you will get people saying "there's no ntr there" and people saying there is, depending on your view. She's a self proclaimed ho that seems to actually love only mc, says she's not interested in devoted relationships but is wrote as wanting a devoted relationship where she can just also bang whatever she wants.

"I don't see any ntr content" is just very subjective and what constitutes it to each person. There's 3somes with 2 characters focusing on PC, not really ntr, defeat scenes which really try to be but are optional and you can just altf4, 3 somes where PC bangs someone who bangs someone else, isn't usually wrote as making PC neglected or betrayed. there are various scenes that are sketchy to the player base like pre-optional etheryn/hashat, if you have a weird wayfort setup, think corrupted, think aileh can be ran a train on when you return, in the fine print and tobs novella it's insinuated kiyoko bangs random people to have extra energy to feed her kids, makes sense lore wise without killing PC but kind of overlooked ntr, basically any scene you choose to let cait bang someone else has the "you sure you want to watch them bang me?" Ntr dialogue. Azyrran/liaden content is "gender" locked and feels ntr-y, but you can be a full male that just gets max feminine appearance and still get access to it and bang her on your own.

Tldr, caits issue is, like the opposite of how wsan has tried to protect and maintain briennes image and appeal, savin wants Cait to be a ho AND also a wife. A nichell be fine with it but majority will think it's gross ntr. If brienne suddenly loved the temple and got upset if PC didn't let her get banged at random, same problems. You don't want ntr/free love in vanilla and don't expect vanilla in a ho temple or from ho pope.
 

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I think the reason the NTR thing gets so polarizing is because very few people are indifferent to cuckshit. Most either can't get enough of it and want it in everything or can't stand even the slightest hint of it. If you're gonna put it in a game you probably need to double down on it or just not include it at all because the half assed way they've handled it here just annoys both sides.
 

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On Cait, primary issue is they've wrote her very whiplash-y. When you start her interactions, shes not interested in a monogamous relationship, so no ntr (partner being stolen), just kind of accepting it's her actual religion to quite literally belongs to the streets. As her content's progressed though, they're really pushing her as a love interest/ ending option. Silly as the butt stuff is, you have a character that was saving an experience their life for someone special and can pick mc, story bonding moments like holding her when trying to rescue her sister, the options to thank her father for having her, the lovey scenes pre/post temple, her talking about how great the MC is and how eventually she'd like to remove her seal and have a kid with them.

It's easy for people uninterested in her banging everything to get mixed signals, and start seeing it as cucking or ntr fetish stuff when her and the MC are wrote so close but then she'll still use them as a living bed or run off down an alley with a wolf guy. People that like harem/pcsexual characters can feel misled or tricked. Her character is not only the village, but the world's, possibly the spirit realm's bicycle that wants to emotionally love, cuddle and kiss mc only basically. So you will get people saying "there's no ntr there" and people saying there is, depending on your view. She's a self proclaimed ho that seems to actually love only mc, says she's not interested in devoted relationships but is wrote as wanting a devoted relationship where she can just also bang whatever she wants.

"I don't see any ntr content" is just very subjective and what constitutes it to each person. There's 3somes with 2 characters focusing on PC, not really ntr, defeat scenes which really try to be but are optional and you can just altf4, 3 somes where PC bangs someone who bangs someone else, isn't usually wrote as making PC neglected or betrayed. there are various scenes that are sketchy to the player base like pre-optional etheryn/hashat, if you have a weird wayfort setup, think corrupted, think aileh can be ran a train on when you return, in the fine print and tobs novella it's insinuated kiyoko bangs random people to have extra energy to feed her kids, makes sense lore wise without killing PC but kind of overlooked ntr, basically any scene you choose to let cait bang someone else has the "you sure you want to watch them bang me?" Ntr dialogue. Azyrran/liaden content is "gender" locked and feels ntr-y, but you can be a full male that just gets max feminine appearance and still get access to it and bang her on your own.

Tldr, caits issue is, like the opposite of how wsan has tried to protect and maintain briennes image and appeal, savin wants Cait to be a ho AND also a wife. A nichell be fine with it but majority will think it's gross ntr. If brienne suddenly loved the temple and got upset if PC didn't let her get banged at random, same problems. You don't want ntr/free love in vanilla and don't expect vanilla in a ho temple or from ho pope.
tldr version: Not true NTR, but mental retardation.
 

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Is the cuck content for Cait even cuck content when you hold no serious romantical tie to the character that fucks literally anything and everything that moves anyways?
Hmmm. You know I had an entire different post planned up defending Cait and saying it couldn't possibly be cuck content. But, when thinking about it from the actual definition? Like that thing where if you do the Eve foursome once you can just go in there and see her giving titjobs to evelyn? Or that thing with Berwyn? The wildhorse? That's the fetish.

I mean I know you're using cuck interchangeably with NTR or the non fetihis version of cuckoldry and I disagree with that label. She says she's going to bang everything before the relationship and the proclamation of love is ultimately meaningless as you're still not exclusionary in literally anything including intimate moments.

I barely ever see any content that doesn't involve the player.
People conflate NTR with cuckoldry (the fetish). Though to be fair everybody including Savin generally does so clearly it's an easy mistake to make.

Though "involve the player" is a misnomer. A voyeur scene is still a voyeur scene even if you're making out with the girl getting plowed by the bull.

I think the reason the NTR thing gets so polarizing is because very few people are indifferent to cuckshit. Most either can't get enough of it and want it in everything or can't stand even the slightest hint of it. If you're gonna put it in a game you probably need to double down on it or just not include it at all because the half assed way they've handled it here just annoys both sides.
If we're talking from the context not exclusive to CoC2 then yeah a good amount of people are hostile towards all open/cuck/ntr. You can't appeal to them. There's no justification you can use to include that fetish and continue to appeal towards them. It's an extremely binary interaction.

For NTR specifically, you'll see games made where they attempt to appeal to people who are antagonistic towards the genre as well as fans of the genre and they use every excuse under the sun: Mind control, addictive cum, possession, enchanted dick, weird curses, dream manipulation, and whatever else you can think of including "it's optional". It very seldom works.
Occasionally you'll get that individual with a patreon/itch-io and a dream thinking they'll be the one to bend boundaries or introduce people to 'their world'. "If'n I just show that the emotional connection is stronger than the physical one...!". It rarely works.

Some savants really truly can get people in the door of their 'wide-appeal' game. I can think of quite a few games that, while not having changed my enjoyability of various fetishes in general, are certainly written well enough that I can enjoy them in my own way regardless of anything else included in the project. I played one not that long ago where the main goal was the kind of degradation of a character to a degree I'm really not a fan of but has the ability to wrap to an end where everybody gets what they want in a way that I was ultimately satisfied with.

More often however, I end up getting hit with second-hand pain when I see the developers who show up on this site exasperated about that NTR tag overpowering literally everything they do regardless of how little they add or how much they revise. Them's the breaks. Don't play with fire, etc.

Though I guess that's more of a case of "don't visit f95 threads for your game if your game isn't community driven". About the best thing to say about the team of this game is that they don't visit this website. I can be as candid as I want without frizzling some artists feelings.
 

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Hmmm. You know I had an entire different post planned up defending Cait and saying it couldn't possibly be cuck content. But, when thinking about it from the actual definition? Like that thing where if you do the Eve foursome once you can just go in there and see her giving titjobs to evelyn? Or that thing with Berwyn? The wildhorse? That's the fetish.

I mean I know you're using cuck interchangeably with NTR or the non fetihis version of cuckoldry and I disagree with that label. She says she's going to bang everything before the relationship and the proclamation of love is ultimately meaningless as you're still not exclusionary in literally anything including intimate moments.


People conflate NTR with cuckoldry (the fetish). Though to be fair everybody including Savin generally does so clearly it's an easy mistake to make.

Though "involve the player" is a misnomer. A voyeur scene is still a voyeur scene even if you're making out with the girl getting plowed by the bull.


If we're talking from the context not exclusive to CoC2 then yeah a good amount of people are hostile towards all open/cuck/ntr. You can't appeal to them. There's no justification you can use to include that fetish and continue to appeal towards them. It's an extremely binary interaction.

For NTR specifically, you'll see games made where they attempt to appeal to people who are antagonistic towards the genre as well as fans of the genre and they use every excuse under the sun: Mind control, addictive cum, possession, enchanted dick, weird curses, dream manipulation, and whatever else you can think of including "it's optional". It very seldom works.
Occasionally you'll get that individual with a patreon/itch-io and a dream thinking they'll be the one to bend boundaries or introduce people to 'their world'. "If'n I just show that the emotional connection is stronger than the physical one...!". It rarely works.

Some savants really truly can get people in the door of their 'wide-appeal' game. I can think of quite a few games that, while not having changed my enjoyability of various fetishes in general, are certainly written well enough that I can enjoy them in my own way regardless of anything else included in the project. I played one not that long ago where the main goal was the kind of degradation of a character to a degree I'm really not a fan of but has the ability to wrap to an end where everybody gets what they want in a way that I was ultimately satisfied with.

More often however, I end up getting hit with second-hand pain when I see the developers who show up on this site exasperated about that NTR tag overpowering literally everything they do regardless of how little they add or how much they revise. Them's the breaks. Don't play with fire, etc.

Though I guess that's more of a case of "don't visit f95 threads for your game if your game isn't community driven". About the best thing to say about the team of this game is that they don't visit this website. I can be as candid as I want without frizzling some artists feelings.
My guy, there are no "kinds" of ntr, it's all different flavours of the same pile of shit. That's why most people don't draw any distinctions, because there are none.
 
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