Biostar

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Curse you Patreon! Hopefully one day we will be able to clam slam Kinu.
Patreon or not, you were never going to get that option. In Tobs mind, this is the story of how Kinu became the greatest den mother. Your character is just background lore.

On that note, can we actually impregnate Ambra or is Tobs being a fucking tease as usual?
 

volkov

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savin has always had this love hate relationship with the community of these games since CoC 1. Their quality swings from amazing, to moderate, to hack within releases either through their own laziness or spite for the same people they make content for. Or just trying to please too many audiences at once.
 

Saraf

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I'm not sure if anybody familiar with Fall of Eden but it all started with a the Burrows. The big bad is a despot who brainwashed his wife, turning her into a broodmare for him and their sons, constantly partakes in incest with his many children, mutates one of his children to fight and rape you all with the grand scheme of breeding an army to conquer the world.
Sounds like he should really get his comeuppance right, well not to his writer. Once you depose him, you got four option, kill him, exile him, imprison him, or experiment on him. Despite all he's done, his wife still loves him and will shoot down every suggestion you make until you pick the one she wants (imprison him). We make fun of all the ultimatum in this game, but at least you can actually do those choices. Naturally this ticks everyone off because why would you write her asking us what to do with him if you weren't even going to listen to us in the first place. In a move that would make Savin team proud, the writer gets so uppity from the backlash that he was going to retaliate by writing a game over/death for every wrong choice you could make in the conclusion just to make the player's choices matter. To Tobs credit, he talked him out of it but he got a learning experience from this. He figured if you don't want the players to get any choice in the content than why should you even try to pretend. That's why his content railroads you so hard. Strang because the Tobs of today would have definitely encouraged the guy if it meant spiting his critics
Oho,remember that one(the quest).
Didnt know about the backlash or Tobs involvement.
The team always had a problem with their "my way or the highway" mentality so Im not really surprised(has gotten much worse over time though).
Makes me wonder what the games would look like if CoC didnt explode and make as much money so Fenoxo actually had to reign his lapdogs in(considering his demeanor on different occasions...probably not much different).
 

destroyerofassholes

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I'm not sure if anybody familiar with Fall of Eden but it all started with a the Burrows. The big bad is a despot who brainwashed his wife, turning her into a broodmare for him and their sons, constantly partakes in incest with his many children, mutates one of his children to fight and rape you all with the grand scheme of breeding an army to conquer the world.
Sounds like he should really get his comeuppance right, well not to his writer. Once you depose him, you got four option, kill him, exile him, imprison him, or experiment on him. Despite all he's done, his wife still loves him and will shoot down every suggestion you make until you pick the one she wants (imprison him). We make fun of all the ultimatum in this game, but at least you can actually do those choices. Naturally this ticks everyone off because why would you write her asking us what to do with him if you weren't even going to listen to us in the first place. In a move that would make Savin team proud, the writer gets so uppity from the backlash that he was going to retaliate by writing a game over/death for every wrong choice you could make in the conclusion just to make the player's choices matter. To Tobs credit, he talked him out of it but he got a learning experience from this. He figured if you don't want the players to get any choice in the content than why should you even try to pretend. That's why his content railroads you so hard. Strang because the Tobs of today would have definitely encouraged the guy if it meant spiting his critics
Interesting read, I never played Fall of Eden, only that I know the game failed.
 

destroyerofassholes

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It also feels kind of inconsistent with how Brienne was presented. Her sexual escapades were always shown as us allowing/telling her to have threesomes with us and other girls. So her just jumping on Azzy without our involvement just does not sit well with me. Like I get that since most people that are into Brienne are straight/maybe bisexual guys so they see girl on girl (vagina) action as fun time. Not as dangerous as your girl fooling around with someone that has a dick. But from my perspective , Brienne just going at Azy and us just stumbling on them feels like it kind of, well not cucky, just inconstant. Like I would understand it we told Brienne to seek Azy since we do not have time for her, but it happening in reverse order (where we have to tell her off) just does not sit well with me for number of reasons. Not a deal breaker I just find it a weird dichotomy between Wsan and SKoW Brienne.
This is a bigger issue than with just Brienne. Characters that have multiple writers make it very obvious. Both in TiTS and this.

For example the oral scene for Arona sub I believe is written by someone who isn't Savin, which is very, very obvious at a glance. It's not that just the prose is different, but more often than not it feels like character assassination, characters don't act like themselves, as every writer has a different interpretation of them.
 
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kazama19jin

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Still amazes me that the writers make as much money as they do while at the same time shitting on the community that pays them in the first place. It's even worse on their discord where anything negative gets shot down faster than you could write ''Kinu incest when?''. It's like they hate the project,hate the people,hate the fact that there are people out there that don't like futas or being constantly talked down to,but love the money and their ''glorious'' OC's in it.
 

Raf-Raf

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Anyone knows what they are paid to write this stuff?
Maybe just ask one of the better writers to write stuff the community actually desires for the same/better paycheck?

I still can't wrap my mind about the fact that writers like savin actually despise big parts of their community and even try to 'cockblock' them for no apparent reason other than 'my butt hurtie'- BUT STILL ASK FOR MONEY FROM SAID PEOPLE!
That's not how things should work. I mean.. do they not have Girlfriends or actual friends, telling them that behaving like this get's you nowhere in the end? I mean in the end, i couldn't care less about this but.. They could earn so much more respect, love and, most importantly, money!
Nah, it's pretty much this:
"This is our game, our rules, our stuff, don't like it? Suck it up and deal with it."


That's why I can at least be thankful to the people working hard for the modded version to make this piece of shit better.
Even if it takes most of their sanity in the process.
 

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I'm worried about any mod project. If it's too based on spite, it'll turn out shit in the long run. This is the main reason why I haven't been clamoring for a CoC2 mod. I already think it's such a bunk product that my checklist for things it needs to be playable would just be a different gorram game at this point.
 

volkov

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I'm worried about any mod project. If it's too based on spite, it'll turn out shit in the long run. This is the main reason why I haven't been clamoring for a CoC2 mod. I already think it's such a bunk product that my checklist for things it needs to be playable would just be a different gorram game at this point.
Most mods for CoC1/2 or TiTs are generally ones to remove any source of futanarism and similar themes. Going as far to completely remove these characters.

As well as removal of the transformation aspects, or even toning down the encounter rate of transformative events or items. Taking away the core aspects of these games in the first place. We all know Fen and the writers love their futa characters as this horse cock has been beat to death through the years but eh. It's all just weird in the end. They'd be better served making their own game at that point with how much content they remove with their modifications.
 

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(My dumb-ass brain after my 3rd cup of coffee and lack of sleep)
Yo guys how would y'all feel if we were in an Alternate Reality where Savin accepted Feedback and in this game Corruption didn't had to deal with Evil-Mc-Edgy shit but rather it was shaped in a more sexual way? as in:
Corruption doesn't immediatly makes you evil, but rather makes you more Dominant when it comes to interactions be it sexual or not, same with Kassyrra you can be 100% corrupt and that just makes you more controlling & dominant when it comes to relationships to the point you could transform the bodies and minds of NPCs to better suit your needs?

So essentially you can adjust how your partners act in bed and how many cocks they've got? that way like...Every player be happy man, dudes into futa get more futa, dudes that ain't into it get more women, hell you could be a power-bottom if you like being dominated cuz Corruption wouldn't mean jack-shit to your personality, but rather your ability to mold others to fit YOUR kinks.

IDK dudes i'm just tired as fuck and bored so my last 2 braincells are storming.
 

Raf-Raf

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Most mods for CoC1/2 or TiTs are generally ones to remove any source of futanarism and similar themes. Going as far to completely remove these characters.
Dunno 'bout CoC 1 removing stuff or transformations.
I've seen tons of transformations in the XianXia mod, removal of NPCs doesn't seem to be there, I've seen 'em add more NPCs instead.

I haven't seen any mod for TiTs so I can't say the same for that one.

(My dumb-ass brain after my 3rd cup of coffee and lack of sleep)
Yo guys how would y'all feel if we were in an Alternate Reality where Savin accepted Feedback and in this game Corruption didn't had to deal with Evil-Mc-Edgy shit but rather it was shaped in a more sexual way? as in:
Corruption doesn't immediatly makes you evil, but rather makes you more Dominant when it comes to interactions be it sexual or not, same with Kassyrra you can be 100% corrupt and that just makes you more controlling & dominant when it comes to relationships to the point you could transform the bodies and minds of NPCs to better suit your needs?

So essentially you can adjust how your partners act in bed and how many cocks they've got? that way like...Every player be happy man, dudes into futa get more futa, dudes that ain't into it get more women, hell you could be a power-bottom if you like being dominated cuz Corruption wouldn't mean jack-shit to your personality, but rather your ability to mold others to fit YOUR kinks.

IDK dudes i'm just tired as fuck and bored so my last 2 braincells are storming.
I think that game's called Lilith's Throne but the only problem for that game is that it updates every damn century.
 
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I keep waiting for them to pass it to the browser until bets have already been made that it will happen first:

- CoC2 will improve its quality.

- TiTS will now be playable in the browser just like coc2.

- Lilith's Throne will be playable in browser.

At this point I don't even know which one will come first but I still have some of my hopes for TiTS.
 
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NODOGAN

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I think that game's called Lilith's Throne but the only problem for that game is that it updates every damn century.
I know right? at this point i've 90% given up on the story ever advancing and i'm impatiently waiting for the addittion of the ferals because fuck it! if the story's going nowhere at least give me more KINKS! like for real when was the last time any of you played a Bestiality game FOR DUDES!/where the MC wasn't a girl being raped by animals but a guy fucking animals?

Last ones i can remember are Degrees of Lewdity and Teraurge (the latter one being stuck in an EVEN WORSE "Development Hell" which might as well be declared abbandoned already.)
 

Raf-Raf

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I know right? at this point i've 90% given up on the story ever advancing and i'm impatiently waiting for the addittion of the ferals because fuck it! if the story's going nowhere at least give me more KINKS! like for real when was the last time any of you played a Bestiality game FOR DUDES!/where the MC wasn't a girl being raped by animals but a guy fucking animals?

Last ones i can remember are Degrees of Lewdity and Teraurge (the latter one being stuck in an EVEN WORSE "Development Hell" which might as well be declared abbandoned already.)
Haven't heard of Teraurge but since you said it's pretty much abandoned I won't try it.
Hell, Lilith's throne did transformations and sandbox stuff better than both CoC 1 and 2 tbh.
 

NODOGAN

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Haven't heard of Teraurge but since you said it's pretty much abandoned I won't try it.
Hell, Lilith's throne did transformations and sandbox stuff better than both CoC 1 and 2 tbh.
Teraurge is a huge shame cuz the game is Xenophilia AT IT'S FINEST! you ever wanted to fuck an alien/stick it into some really weird monster just for bragging rights? you can in Teraurge! but basically the game Dev decided to shift into an entirely different system and has been working on it since...2020-2019? can't remember, last entry on their blog is from December last year, people claim he uploads art on patreon weekly but i haven't checked.

TLDR: really, REALLY cool game when you in mood for some exotic shit but stuck in development hell for almost 2 years now with ZERO updates to show.
 
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Grey75

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Does anyone have the hotfixed version of 0.4.11? The new items crash in the non hotfixed version.
 
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