Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.19] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[namelessdudewithnoname]

I don't actually hate Cait.
Everything involving Ryn is dogshit. His sister is hot though and I bang her very often. I hope she gets more content without her dick.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

It has become less and less of a focus in regards to Ryn's character development into a "strong leader stud who's super into milfs and wants hot chicks to have her babies".

Ah, so what Savin sees himself as then?

Glad people recognize Alypia as the cancer she is. Other fun tidbits also include:

• She believes Ryn would/should have a panic attack at being asked to get a vagina and uses that as an excuse to not give her one
• Largely took over Ryn from Savin because Savin doesn't want to write her anymore citing that Ryn has "become" Alypia's
• Alypia doesn't understand that she's the one writing Ryn and thus could simply write Ryn to be okay with having a vagina, even temporarily, to have the Champion's child
• Despite writing Ryn as her personal waifu, Alypia also really likes shipping Ryn with Elthara and is the major reason why Elthara is gonna be forced to have Ryn's child if you want
• She cannot understand player convenience and treats the NPCs like they're alive. "If you can't have Ryn's child, why should you expect her to have yours?" This is also fueled by her version of the Champion and her idea of how Ryn should be.
• She made a list for the discord a few years ago of characters to "prove" people wrong about there being too many dickgirls that she still updates occasionally because she still resents you guys(and she has definitely read some of these posts). Check it out in the discord if you don't believe me. Use a throwaway burner account if you gotta.

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She's a good person, generally, but my god should she never be allowed to write characters in a game about choice. She gets really culty whenever it comes to defending CoC2 to the point she'll justify the bad behavior of her friends because she's unfortunately too much of an optimist when it comes to them. If Savin switched up suddenly and said "You know, fuck Patreon, fuck Fen, let's put loli and incest and vore and all sorts of bad stuff and make the game SUPER modder friendly" she'd be right there cheering it on because she can't think badly of her friends.

Like I said she's about the clique. I don't like those types of people. I like individuals that think for themselves. You can be in a gang or a group of people and not be a hivemind. We can be friends and have different tastes and perspectives. Christ almighty

 

[Wrynn13]

He also got assmad at Kitteh for wanting to deliver on the Hellspawn incest and even threatened to ban him and delete the Mod thread off the forums if that happened. Kitteh I think was pretty disliked by the team which is wild and undeserved.
We're lucky /hgg/ came in and told him to go fuck himself later on, since it wasn't on the forums it can deliver that promised content if they want. And that makes Savin rage like a damn pansy. (Idk where Kitteh is as he vanished from the forums but plz come here we'll welcome you and your chagrin. Speaking as someone who got Savin's ire (was stated earlier in the thread during the hive revamp shit), I don't blame him for dipping but man.)

Savin was a huge ass in the mod forum all the time and for no reason. Kitteh quit when the death of Flash happened sadly. No idea where they went from there.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I think this ties to the nightmare/corrupted dream where the mc could force Ryn to replace her penis with a vagina. This was done by Savin(TOBS wrote) as a way to show how she wouldn't want to have a vagina. This scene was in the game before Alypia was even heavily involved with writing for her I believe so she isn't the one to blame.

Ttere's also dream Etheryn cunnilingus scene, where she's quite enjoying getting her vagina pleased. Which was also written by TOBS.
I think you can take the fucking hint.

Also, your manipulation attempts are lame. Try harder next time.

 

[Wrynn13]

Low confidence Etheruined should be fully modifiable as the player wants period. The whole point of that version is that the MC's wants become more important than theirs. Savin and Aly's bullshit is just that, bullshit.

 

[Jbuster]

Low confidence Etheruined should be fully modifiable as the player wants period. The whole point of that version is that the MC's wants become more important than theirs. Savin and Aly's bullshit is just that, bullshit.

That sounds pretty corrupted and evil, I'm not sure it fits with the spirit of this game

i'm beggining to think I gotta side with Olivia/fuck the Imp for it to appear later on the Old forest huh? (been trying to find it by searching the forest for 2 in-game days and nothing)

I hate that I can't double cross the two of them and get both the tits pupper and my own army of milf wolves plus the girl imp plus that other monstergirl, it's so fucking senseless

With any luck once the game is done someone will mod that part to allow you to have the two of them, I wanna enjoy my castle full of weird sexual creatures but they won't let me

My only complaint about this commission is that everybody kept thinking the tree branch was a horse cock. I even had to ask the artist to make sure it wasn’t

Cait's sluttery is so powerful that it bends nature into phallic forms (but seriously the only reason it doesn't totally look like a horse cock is that tiny branch at the bottom)

Spoiler: Also Savin if you're lurking here have this

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[CrimsonSongbird1982]

What even was old Ryn like? I can't remember.

Old Ryn was kinda undefined since Savin didn't seem to know where to take her and changed her around conceptually a couple of times. The main thing Alypia did was make her high confidence Ryn scenes pop up even at low confidence so Ryn. Old Ryn had a clear separation between her two states. Plus Alypia likes to make the player an avid member of the Ryn Defense Squad regardless of our feelings towards her however she's been interacted with.

She made a list for the discord a few years ago of characters to "prove" people wrong about there being too many dickgirls that she still updates occasionally because she still resents you guys(and she has definitely read some of these posts). Check it out in the discord if you don't believe me. Use a throwaway burner account if you gotta.

She fails to understand that it's not the quantity of characters but the quantity of scenes that make the game focused on futa. And what a weird thing to defend Savin on when he's very open about futa being one of his fetishes and only really being interested in including his fetishes.

I'm guessing she's actually the one responsible for the whole. Have Ryn's baby or else someone else will? If that's the case, I've been blaming Savin unjustly for that at least.

Savin had to ok it but it was Alypia who actually put it in and wrote it and defended it on the forum.

But correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Ryn talk about trying to get a vag? I can't remember if it was just to try and get out of the cage or not. But I remember it coming up and there was no panic. Outside of it not working.

You could, and in the before times Ryn would express light discomfort or being unsure and it would just drop. There were also hints the cage's magic would prevent it with the shrinking the dick thing not working. Not exactly great news for the futa dislikers but it wasn't that controversial. Confusing since Savin never clarified Ryn's final concept and left the original design doc up as long as he did, but fine. Then Alypia came and added the more negative reaction to the scene.

With how Ryn is written there is no way in hell. She would not be willing to get a vag at least once. To have a baby with the champ. This Alypia person might be the new writer. But the relationship setup beforehand don't magically change.

Alypia sure did go back and change scenes to change the relationship for herself though lol.

WHERE YOU CAN EAT AN ENCHANTED EGG TO GET A VAG AND THEN ANOTHER TO REMOVE IT WITHOUT ISSUE. (Speaking outside the PC's arcane fuckery case obvs, characters need items enchanted to do shit with their bodies iirc the lore, like come ON)

The player's portal shit has been ignored for a long time too and everyone is as malleable now.

and the devs can make her a fucking dickgirl again and keep her that way until the next fucking pregnancy fuck off with this 'SHE SHOULD GET A PANIC ATTACK OVER VAGINA BC IT'S AWFULLLL.

Alypia making the performative ally accusations even more solid.

Low confidence Etheruined should be fully modifiable as the player wants period. The whole point of that version is that the MC's wants become more important than theirs. Savin and Aly's bullshit is just that, bullshit.

Low Confidence Ryn ceased to exist once Alypia took over. She was made to put in some low confidence scenes and variants but they were always made to sort of encourage you make her high confidence by trying to make you feel bad or adding small flavor text where the gist was how it'd be better for everyone if Ryn believed in herself.

Honestly my problem with Ryn is she's become somebodies waifu and that somebody changed her to specifically fit their idea of what the character is despite the fact that Ryn was finally becoming more clearly defined before Alypia appeared.

Real talk, I got so annoyed by Alypia's Ryn that I started wishing I could hand her over to Alissa and have them both fuck off and never bother polite society again and just take one of the Ryn clones as a replacement.

 

[Ravenmore]

Glad people recognize Alypia as the cancer she is. Other fun tidbits also include:

• She believes Ryn would/should have a panic attack at being asked to get a vagina and uses that as an excuse to not give her one
• Largely took over Ryn from Savin because Savin doesn't want to write her anymore citing that Ryn has "become" Alypia's
• Alypia doesn't understand that she's the one writing Ryn and thus could simply write Ryn to be okay with having a vagina, even temporarily, to have the Champion's child
• Despite writing Ryn as her personal waifu, Alypia also really likes shipping Ryn with Elthara and is the major reason why Elthara is gonna be forced to have Ryn's child if you want
• She cannot understand player convenience and treats the NPCs like they're alive. "If you can't have Ryn's child, why should you expect her to have yours?" This is also fueled by her version of the Champion and her idea of how Ryn should be.
• She made a list for the discord a few years ago of characters to "prove" people wrong about there being too many dickgirls that she still updates occasionally because she still resents you guys(and she has definitely read some of these posts). Check it out in the discord if you don't believe me. Use a throwaway burner account if you gotta.

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She's a good person, generally, but my god should she never be allowed to write characters in a game about choice. She gets really culty whenever it comes to defending CoC2 to the point she'll justify the bad behavior of her friends because she's unfortunately too much of an optimist when it comes to them. If Savin switched up suddenly and said "You know, fuck Patreon, fuck Fen, let's put loli and incest and vore and all sorts of bad stuff and make the game SUPER modder friendly" she'd be right there cheering it on because she can't think badly of her friends.

First of all, just bending over backwards and writing a character with no personality besides player convenience is lazy writing. Characters SHOULD have personalities and desires and preferences, otherwise they'd just be one dimensional plot devices there to appease the player alone and not very interesting. Second of all, I don't see the big deal about theoccasional updates she makes on the characters in the game by type; numbers don't lie, and that's pretty much the simplest and least asshole way of addressing spurious claims.

 

[FurrBat]

numbers don't lie, and that's pretty much the simplest and least asshole way of addressing spurious claims.

yes but actually no, number of npcs might be higher but what is the average number and length of scenes? unless you want to tell me a character like Kalysea who we can count as 1 is equivalent to random ass crazy horse from harvest valley.

Kalysea who had like 3? separate content updates.

 

[Lucky_I]

yes but actually no, number of npcs might be higher but what is the average number and length of scenes? unless you want to tell me a character like Kalysea who we can count as 1 is equivalent to random ass crazy horse from harvest valley.

Kalysea who had like 3? separate content updates.

Then there'd be an even larger difference if going off words per scene. Tobs alone, who doesn't really write any futa/dickgirl characters(like there's Meira but you can dedick her), would stat pad in favor of purely vag having women. Like if we keep this to non "one off" female NPCs and the like, it's still a pretty large disparity.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

My only complaint about this commission is that everybody kept thinking the tree branch was a horse cock. I even had to ask the artist to make sure it wasn’t

...That wasn't a horse cock?

She believes Ryn would/should have a panic attack at being asked to get a vagina and uses that as an excuse to not give her one

At a point in the middle of the night, without a single soul awake, a yell wakes the party. Etheryn, the source of said exasperated reaction, sweats nervously as she looks down to check what she has under her pants and, with a sigh, relaxes.

Etheryn: Phew. For a second, I thought it had been turned into a vagina. Well, back to bed now.

At a bed nearby, Brienne and the champion, both awake and clearly hugging each other in a loving manner, do a double take.

Brienne: ...Why do I feel insulted?

She cannot understand player convenience and treats the NPCs like they're alive. "If you can't have Ryn's child, why should you expect her to have yours?" This is also fueled by her version of the Champion and her idea of how Ryn should be.

Surprised she couldn't instantly conceive in her mind that the player usually takes precedence over the NPC. Imagine her playing Mario and deliberately letting the plumber get killed by the first Goomba, lest it'd hurt the poor bipedal creature's feelings.

She made a list for the discord a few years ago of characters to "prove" people wrong about there being too many dickgirls that she still updates occasionally because she still resents you guys(and she has definitely read some of these posts). Check it out in the discord if you don't believe me. Use a throwaway burner account if you gotta

Hey, Alypia!

What even was old Ryn like? I can't remember.

All I remember liking about her that didn't end up going nowhere (the idea of helping a friend go trans while still remaining a key figure at a kingdom) was that she had this eagle you could get acquainted to.

Goofy? Yes.
Fun? Kind of.

But correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Ryn talk about trying to get a vag? I can't remember if it was just to try and get out of the cage or not. But I remember it coming up and there was no panic. Outside of it not working. Either way I'm calling shenanigans. With how Ryn is written there is no way in hell. She would not be willing to get a vag at least once. To have a baby with the champ. This Alypia person might be the new writer. But the relationship setup beforehand don't magically change.

My memory starts with being disappointed that you couldn't help her turn because Savin's futa fetish just had to get in the way.

Kitteh quit when the death of Flash happened sadly.

Fuck Adobe.

She fails to understand that it's not the quantity of characters but the quantity of scenes that make the game focused on futa. And what a weird thing to defend Savin on when he's very open about futa being one of his fetishes and only really being interested in including his fetishes.

Skan used to do that shtick for a while. Always found it funny, because...

numbers don't lie, and that's pretty much the simplest and least asshole way of addressing spurious claims.

...See, here's a thing I can say as someone who works with numbers.

Numbers themselves don't lie, but the people who use them can find very creative ways to spin them around. And that's not even getting on absolutes and relatives.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

At a point in the middle of the night, without a single soul awake, a yell wakes the party. Etheryn, the source of said exasperated reaction, sweats nervously as she looks down to check what she has under her pants and, with a sigh, relaxes.

Etheryn: Phew. For a second, I thought it had been turned into a vagina. Well, back to bed now.

At a bed nearby, Brienne and the champion, both awake and clearly hugging each other in a loving manner, do a double take.

Brienne: ...Why do I feel insulted?

Champ: "Eh, she must chauvinist. Gonna have to give her a stern talking-to in the morning. Anyway, where were we? "

 

[Jbuster]

Low Confidence Ryn ceased to exist once Alypia took over. She was made to put in some low confidence scenes and variants but they were always made to sort of encourage you make her high confidence by trying to make you feel bad or adding small flavor text where the gist was how it'd be better for everyone if Ryn believed in herself.

Honestly my problem with Ryn is she's become somebodies waifu and that somebody changed her to specifically fit their idea of what the character is despite the fact that Ryn was finally becoming more clearly defined before Alypia appeared.

Real talk, I got so annoyed by Alypia's Ryn that I started wishing I could hand her over to Alissa and have them both fuck off and never bother polite society again and just take one of the Ryn clones as a replacement.

Low confidence Ryn would be perfect as a puppet ruler for the evil champion to command but I guess that's too evil and corrupt and not appealing at all

First of all, just bending over backwards and writing a character with no personality besides player convenience is lazy writing. Characters SHOULD have personalities and desires and preferences, otherwise they'd just be one dimensional plot devices there to appease the player alone and not very interesting. Second of all, I don't see the big deal about theoccasional updates she makes on the characters in the game by type; numbers don't lie, and that's pretty much the simplest and least asshole way of addressing spurious claims.

Look I won't tell you you're wrong, but you're not looking at the whole picture

In really, really simple terms that special OC that the writer loves and doesn't want anyone to ruin becomes part of the setting and is molded to fit into that setting, and that setting is designed to accommodate the vague taste of a pool of players, so while it's good for a character to have a personality, as they should, that personality doesn't exist in a vacuum and is there to entice the player, that's you, to interact with them

And that's why having a writer betray the premise of the first game which is foundational for the second game becomes an issue, as that turns the interactive adventure where you're supposed to roleplay with this characters into the not so interactive adventure where you roleplay as someone that watch the characters

...That wasn't a horse cock?



At a point in the middle of the night, without a single soul awake, a yell wakes the party. Etheryn, the source of said exasperated reaction, sweats nervously as she looks down to check what she has under her pants and, with a sigh, relaxes.

Etheryn: Phew. For a second, I thought it had been turned into a vagina. Well, back to bed now.

At a bed nearby, Brienne and the champion, both awake and clearly hugging each other in a loving manner, do a double take.

Brienne: ...Why do I feel insulted?

I'm gonna be honest, I couldn't bring myself to scramble Etheryn's brains in order to give her a pussy...

Spoiler: However, I know someone who totally could

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[Pandect]

I posted that exact panel somewhere on the tread


Yup, that's the one thing I like about Cait. The Leo-tf is....stimulating, to say the least

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I hate that I can't save any images from here, they all end up about 500-600kb and blank.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

First of all, just bending over backwards and writing a character with no personality besides player convenience is lazy writing. Characters SHOULD have personalities and desires and preferences, otherwise they'd just be one dimensional plot devices there to appease the player alone and not very interesting. Second of all, I don't see the big deal about theoccasional updates she makes on the characters in the game by type; numbers don't lie, and that's pretty much the simplest and least asshole way of addressing spurious claims.

.....what? First of all, when did they say what you just described in that 1st sentence? Where in that comment did it say anything about "writing a character with no personality besides player convenience"? Ryn already had those things with or without Alypia. Then on top of that, 4 out of the 6 points is about one particular thing. Which is her getting a vag since we were talking about her having the champs kid. While the overall topic is about Alypia's personal issue with. So what are you even talking about? Like you up in here shadow boxing yourself.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

I'm gonna be honest, I couldn't bring myself to scramble Etheryn's brains in order to give her a pussy...

The champ stands in front of the messy pile of fluids that now covers the unfutified Etheryn, who now babbles incoherent words as she drags herself out of the room.

Etheryn: You can always find another wife! How am I gonna have kids now? What am I gonna do without my dick, chaaaamp!?

Elthara, known for her open legs and towering ears that rival the towers of the Wayfort, naturally slithers to the Champ's side, somewhat displeased by the situation.

Elthara: Man... Ryn really needs help.
PC: What do you mean, help? I just gave her help, whipped her ass 'til she blew it out!

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

...That wasn't a horse cock?

That's what I'm saying.
Fission Mailed.

...See, here's a thing I can say as someone who works with numbers.

You have my condolences.

Numbers themselves don't lie, but the people who use them can find very creative ways to spin them around. And that's not even getting on absolutes and relatives.

The raw numbers are a deliberate attempt to shut down dissent on the topic. Especially since it only accounts for the NPCs and not the focus they receive, how many updates they've gotten, how many scenes they have, whether a non-futa character has scenes with a futa character, and I can't tell if it accounts for characters who can become futa or not. Throwing out the number of NPCs by gender and genital category doesn't actually contradict the complaint of it being a futa focus.

Low confidence Ryn would be perfect as a puppet ruler for the evil champion to command but I guess that's too evil and corrupt and not appealing at all

Damn that's a great idea. Too bad the only writer for Ryn fucked off and treated low confidence as a temporary fail state.

 

[_Aury]

...That wasn't a horse cock?

I can assure you, it’s not. But a friend of mine did get art of LeoCait with a horse dick for real

 

[TerreCrimson]

I can assure you, it’s not. But a friend of mine did get art of LeoCait with a horse dick for real

Share with the class?

 

[Tsubuhaza]

You have my condolences.

Could've been worse, could've been a paid writer for this shindig. Futa as far as the eye can see.

The raw numbers are a deliberate attempt to shut down dissent on the topic. Especially since it only accounts for the NPCs and not the focus they receive, how many updates they've gotten, how many scenes they have, whether a non-futa character has scenes with a futa character, and I can't tell if it accounts for characters who can become futa or not. Throwing out the number of NPCs by gender and genital category doesn't actually contradict the complaint of it being a futa focus.

That's something you pick up in Statistics, being able to grade the relevance of the numbers you have in properly representing the situation you desire.

A proper analysis of the game, if Alypia was more willing to do a proper analysis and not just hand picking something to defend the Savco line, was to have a three tiered rank where you rate them in absolute numbers (what she did), then a proportional index on how many sex scenes every character has and a final one to rate how relevant every character is.

Cross the three and you'd likely get what you want as a proper representation of this game's roster distribution.

I can assure you, it’s not. But a friend of mine did get art of LeoCait with a horse dick for real

Hard pass.