Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.19] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[YouShallNotLol]

The worst part about it is that they could just write a single event where Ryn temporarily gets a vagina, has a kid, and you could even handwave the speed of it with magic or just have an in-game timeskip if they have to be extra anal about it. This would completely bypass the parser system and make it so you don't have to account for any changes.

They don't have to do even that, literally just have one of Lumia's or Mallach's rental wombs get hired to carry Etheruined's kid (especially after all those LumiaXRyn "threesomes" that have been added lately). But no, they want to do it in the most retarded way possible.

 

[ExcitedTengu]

I hate that I can't save any images from here, they all end up about 500-600kb and blank.

There's a firefox extension that just lets you pick what kind of file format you want.

 

[_BMW_]

They don't have to do even that, literally just have one of Lumia's or Mallach's rental wombs get hired to carry Etheruined's kid (especially after all those LumiaXRyn "threesomes" that have been added lately). But no, they want to do it in the most retarded way possible.

Yeah. They have plenty of options but because Alypia is inconsiderate of players other than herself so she refuses to budge even an inch.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Low confidence Ryn would be perfect as a puppet ruler for the evil champion to command but I guess that's too evil and corrupt and not appealing at all

The first thought that legit came to me when I was doing a corrupt run, another is having her for bdsm play. But as we know that's illegal.

I hate that I can't save any images from here, they all end up about 500-600kb and blank.

That's ruff buddy. Now I'm gonna start dropping bangers just to spite u.

Spoiler: What I would put Ryn in if Savin wasn't a cunt

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Like you up in here shadow boxing yourself.

Bro, I think we should stop earnestly discussing with these types that show up and just bait and watch them twist into pretzels at this point. Embrace your inner troll and watch them fight shadows.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Sorry, took a bit to find it.

Open at your own risk

Spoiler: Cait with some extra

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Said friend has uh… given Kiyoko a similar treatment. I may have unleashed a monster by getting him interested in the game

You whenever a I see art of a dude or futa with huge balls, I get this intense feeling to punch or kick em in the nuts. Like, you can't go into battle with tht son, the first thing I'd do as your opponent is turn you into a eunuch.

 

[SatanHGG]

Always seemed odd to me that Ryn could never have a vagina added without removing her dick. It's a porn game that's allegedly based around TFs, the dick and vagina needn't be mutually exclusive. True that wouldn't appease everyone, she'd remain futa just a different sub-type after all, but it's something and has some variety. Ryn is a black hole of ideas because how she supposedly interacts with the parser system and how Alypia has done the narrative equivalent to pissing on something to declare ownership.

I'm starting to think the parser system was a mistake.

Coming at this from the point of view of the parser system in CoC1, which we've frequently added things to, I genuinely don't understand.
Like, how? Just... add the feature. The burden shouldn't be on the parser, it should be on writing, where you previously didn't account for the possibility.
Parser system in CoC1 meant isTaur always meant horse body, but it was trivial to adjust the parser to allow four legged bodies of any species, only falling on the writing to check every taur instance to adjust for non-horse taurs. (which kitteh didn't do and we inherited that laziness and have to fix it when we find horse-specific isTaur scenes.)
But avoiding going off on tangents too much, how could the parser be causing an issue here? I'm not a CoC2 modder, I don't know the system.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Take the new merrdix or whatever update; it's dogshit, a few scenes that go on too long, hardly account for anything but if you have a knot and only at the end, and pregnancy that's like three fucking lines, yet idiots like Alypia will count it and use it as proof that there is more straight content.

Damn. Is it that bad? I though Jstar was better than tht.

What's your ideal version of Ryn man?, I'm curious

Ditto, I need to hear this

There's honestly not much I would change, you can already make her thicc, she's already submissive, she's already an elf which im into but the only thing she's really missing is the breedable part, like how can you have a submissive elf and not make them breedable it's sacrilege thats hentai 101. I mean there's also some stuff I would change with the winter city in general but thats a whole different thing.

A simple man of simple, taste.
How poultry

I'm so glad we could all come together and roast Alypia.

Long overdue if you ask me.

Kinda wish we had more companion removal states or companion "Bad Ends". Mostly just for Cait and Ryn. Could get creative and actually make scenes for them. Honestly as much flak as Urta quest rightfully got, the whole NPC getting the treatment the player risks was nice and I' like that back.

I so wish that, maybe selling Cait to slavers or using her in ritual and maybe setting up Brint to getting the cursed Alraune treatment(they basically partially turn you into a tree then milk you for as long as you live) as a nonviolent solution to passing without having to get boxer Wolfman.

At this point I'm also confused how being a demon alone is a bad end since, again, they're no different from anyone else in the setting and don't have a unifying leader commanding them like in the first game. It makes sense some of the time but those bad ends have being a demon be secondary to being captured and enslaved. But not all do that. Honestly it's baffling that being a demon isn't just treated as another perma-TF like the Kitsune and Valkyrie stuff by now.

I can come up with a couple of reasons:
1. They're too lazy to create an actual perm demon tf and and fix up the demon transformation badends that are already there. I'm don't think it pass 3
2. They treat the player of having coc1 demon rules, even though the demons that we've come across have complete agency in what they want to do, but because it'll contradict what they've already established, they're just going to leave it as a festering wound.
3. Savin is a cunt.

 

[screwmudgolems]

What flag do I have to edit to be able to encounter Meridyx?

 

[Lucky_I]

What flag do I have to edit to be able to encounter Meridyx?

Try setting KQ_MERIDYX
KQ_THARSUS
KQ_THARSUS_DEF
And KQ_THARSUS_TASK to 1 in the github CoC2 save editor. I recall doing that and it worked as she spawned traveling around where she's suppose to spawn for awhile

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

But avoiding going off on tangents too much, how could the parser be causing an issue here? I'm not a CoC2 modder, I don't know the system.

It's mostly based on how everytime doing something with Ryn is brought up, it's shot down nine times out of ten on the grounds that she's a coding mess. Savin has complained about it and it apparently discourages them from writing for the player because it requires accounting for parsers usually. Though tbh it looks like some weirdly compressed hall of their own making.

Though I'm not a coder and am only commenting based on the statements given from the dev team. I've looked at the code and tried following the modding guides to get a basic understanding for when/if the game is finished, but idk if it's because I'm used to RPGMaker code and New Vegas stuff or the CoC2 code is a mess to understand, but that shit looks hell adjacent.

They don't have to do even that, literally just have one of Lumia's or Mallach's rental wombs get hired to carry Etheruined's kid (especially after all those LumiaXRyn "threesomes" that have been added lately). But no, they want to do it in the most retarded way possible.

Yeah but if she uses the Mallach surrogacy method, then the kid gets raised in the grooming cult and indoctrinated. Weird as fuck we can't tell Ryn about Lumia since they've been getting closer. Hate to break it to Savin, but the identity fraud diety thing makes it rape by deception sooooooo...

You whenever a I see art of a dude or futa with huge balls, I get this intense feeling to punch or kick em in the nuts.

The intrusive thoughts are sometimes very hard to ignore.

Damn. Is it that bad? I though Jstar was better than tht.

It's fine-ish. Like what's there is ok but it's really short and feels kinda like Jstar didn't want to do it or got rushed to get it out to fit the Christmas theme month just for the name pun. It's underwhelming.

I so wish that, maybe selling Cait to slavers or using her in ritual and maybe setting up Brint to getting the cursed Alraune treatment(they basically partially turn you into a tree then milk you for as long as you live) as a nonviolent solution to passing without having to get boxer Wolfman.

Brint/Brienne are harder to think of something for but for Cait, idk just add the option in the bottom right corner to have her get dragged off by one of the myriad enemies that buttfuck her. Like the demon couple maybe, as an alternate removal method instead of killing them, they carry Cait off and we get a brief scene of her in their bad end in place of us with some flavor text to account for it. I feel like outside of anything like an Urta Quest format it should be optional though.

I can come up with a couple of reasons:
1. They're too lazy to create an actual perm demon tf and and fix up the demon transformation badends that are already there. I'm don't think it pass 3
2. They treat the player of having coc1 demon rules, even though the demons that we've come across have complete agency in what they want to do, but because it'll contradict what they've already established, they're just going to leave it as a festering wound.
3. Savin is a cunt.

4. All of the above.

It bothers me since Kas isn't unifying the demons and unlike CoC1, they aren't all working towards the same goal with a leader who can keep them in line, so there's no reason for being a demon alone to end the story. Maybe a fail state for the epilogue like the godsworn forms will probably be but not reason enough to be a bad end on its own.

 

[Pandect]

Damn. Is it that bad? I though Jstar was better than tht.

For a regular scene it's extremly mid, for something hyped up for months and treated as the star of the show for an update? Pure shit.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I alot of popular greek tales were actually changed to fit the views of guys like Ovid, The Roman Poet who equated the greek gods to nobles who abused their power. So he made them more dickish they they actually were. For example, Arachne was not turned to a spider because of being a better weaver than Athena. She was punished (lightly at that, Athena beat her head with a Loon and only turned her into a spider after she was about to killself, Athena did this out of pity) because she kept calling out Athena to 1v1 her and started making the most insulting weaving that she can do. Each one of these things separately is offence with grave punishments. Alot of other gods wouldn't have let it slide.

The idea of telling a God to 1v1 me bro. Then shit talking them through your craft when they don't respond. Is fucking hilarious. Like yea you might've turned me into a spider, but you never actually beat me bitch!!! And my entire lineage shits on you too. Now hold this multispecies L!

 

[NODOGAN]

Well...goddamnit, seems like you can't get Merydix and the Wolf Milf in one same run...gonna have to restart my run and get Olivia this time/make sure to fuck the Imp.

Should be quite fast as a Charmer, they still the most broken class no? I mean, being able to hit a 180+ sexyness oughta make them hit like a horny truck
(Likely gonna go Bolstering Dance, Suggestive Sway, Dischord and Summon Grungendyr/Grand Finale)

 

[Wrynn13]

Always seemed odd to me that Ryn could never have a vagina added without removing her dick. It's a porn game that's allegedly based around TFs, the dick and vagina needn't be mutually exclusive. True that wouldn't appease everyone, she'd remain futa just a different sub-type after all, but it's something and has some variety. Ryn is a black hole of ideas because how she supposedly interacts with the parser system and how Alypia has done the narrative equivalent to pissing on something to declare ownership.

I'm starting to think the parser system was a mistake.

I'm so glad we could all come together and roast Alypia.


iirc She just says she feels feminine in a general sense and isn't commenting on her genitals.



Kinda wish we had more companion removal states or companion "Bad Ends". Mostly just for Cait and Ryn. Could get creative and actually make scenes for them. Honestly as much flak as Urta quest rightfully got, the whole NPC getting the treatment the player risks was nice and I' like that back.

By the way just did the Meridyx bad end. Jstar let me down. It's literally just an extra couple of paragraphs on her sex scenes saying "You're Demon Now LOL" and that's it. No wonder it wasn't advertised. Weird given he's written some good ones for the knot cave.

At this point I'm also confused how being a demon alone is a bad end since, again, they're no different from anyone else in the setting and don't have a unifying leader commanding them like in the first game. It makes sense some of the time but those bad ends have being a demon be secondary to being captured and enslaved. But not all do that. Honestly it's baffling that being a demon isn't just treated as another perma-TF like the Kitsune and Valkyrie stuff by now.

It's a bad end for the simple reason that now Savin's big red futa can't get your soul, and why bother letting you play then?

 

[Nick_Rock90]

How many characters acknowledge the male virginity? it really surprised me when you have sex with Zo and if is ur first time there is new text for it lol

 

[Lucky_I]

Well...goddamnit, seems like you can't get Merydix and the Wolf Milf in one same run...gonna have to restart my run and get Olivia this time/make sure to fuck the Imp.

Should be quite fast as a Charmer, they still the most broken class no? I mean, being able to hit a 180+ sexyness oughta make them hit like a horny truck
(Likely gonna go Bolstering Dance, Suggestive Sway, Dischord and Summon Grungendyr/Grand Finale)

Pretty sure Charmer is still the best class/build. And they added new equipment for it in a dungeon thats down south of Harvest Valley.

 

[_BMW_]

Well...goddamnit, seems like you can't get Merydix and the Wolf Milf in one same run...gonna have to restart my run and get Olivia this time/make sure to fuck the Imp.

Should be quite fast as a Charmer, they still the most broken class no? I mean, being able to hit a 180+ sexyness oughta make them hit like a horny truck
(Likely gonna go Bolstering Dance, Suggestive Sway, Dischord and Summon Grungendyr/Grand Finale)

It's apparently glitched and should be fixed soon.

 

[Yeppers34]

A simple man of simple, taste.
How poultry
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Hey when you have degenerate taste sometimes you need something nice and simple to help ground you.

 

[SatanHGG]

It's mostly based on how everytime doing something with Ryn is brought up, it's shot down nine times out of ten on the grounds that she's a coding mess.
the CoC2 code is a mess to understand, but that shit looks hell adjacent.

I admit I'm spared much by the virtue of CoC1 being refactored a dozen times already, so a lot of the jank is cleaned up before I ever laid my eyes on it. But Fenoxo learned a lot making CoC1 originally, and all the things the people who helped him did to fix the technical debt he injected. Taking that knowledge and experience, TiTS was much better from the ground up. Doesn't CoC2 get a lot from TiTS on the code side? It should be in decent shape.
And the parser of all things should be the least of the issues. Something in the parser being really annoying to work with? Just add another parser tag that is easier to use. Redo a tag or two.
Did they vibe-code Ryn with ChatGPT?
It rings like a throw-away excuse rather than a legitimate explanation.

 

[ThanefromKaos]

One praise that this game even with 99% of the game bad stuff.
...the art is always on point