Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.19] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Oommpphhoo]

What the duck with the comment section 2k+ comments is this game really worth playing?

 

[Teshay]

The idea of telling a God to 1v1 me bro. Then shit talking them through your craft when they don't respond. Is fucking hilarious. Like yea you might've turned me into a spider, but you never actually beat me bitch!!! And my entire lineage shits on you too.

Bro Athena is too nice, everyone else would have would have responded with demon timing. I can imagine Athena and Hera begging Zeus not to smite that bratty weaver shit.

One praise that this game even with 99% of the game bad stuff.
...the art is always on point

Problem is, Art can't carry it alone. There are a bunch of shitty isekai/returner manga that have god tier art but smelly shit-tier stories and characters. Go read "The Return of the Disaster-Class Hero" and come back to me. It has great art, but man the typical op mc is going to piss you off if you ever want to see another character shine.

Kind of my point. Her content is so small that's the reaction.

Red fox woman at the Windpeaks Village. She's at the Sorran Altar. She's actually the image on the far right of the first page here to advertise the game with.

Searched the wiki and couldn't find her, only through your image did I remember one of the easiest lays in the game. Like your relationship doesn't get ANY time to develop. I remember asking her for something and she was like "Yeah, we got to get married for me to give you that service." Lol, K. Bing Bang, she's pregnant and I'm forget about her existence a few hours later. Sucks for her.

What the duck with the comment section 2k+ comments is this game really worth playing?

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH NAH. We're just a active community, the game has alot of problems that could be fixed if the dev's and their pals didn't force their fethizes down our throats and lie about the corruption being a thing in a game called corruptions of champions 2.

I mean, try it out and get your own opinion just don't pay for it.

 

[SatanHGG]

Tbf in the original game Lethice didn't really do anything, there were a bunch of demons under her but she mostly just let them do their own shit until it became a issue for her then she'd smack them. They had a system that worked and got used to it. Which is why they never took the champ seriously, Zethaz lost his job, but they didn't send a fucking search party or anything.

They were in the position of the victors, so Lethice didn't feel a need to do shit. She was a stone-cold bitch and one of the first demons, so she had alot more power than most due to having early access to souls. She was also apparently pretty good at magic or something, I forgot.

Lethice already won and was more interested in cracking portals, which was the reason they became demons from the start. They were human mages traveling through portals and ending up on Mareth where, inexplicably, portals are a one-way deal only, trapping them there. They fixated on trying to find a way to overcome that until the pursuit for more and more power turned into corruption and sacrificing souls to further gain power.
And as for Zetaz, no one really knew who he was or cared; he was a mook, and paranoid he'd get worse coming to him than anyone would care to send. That factory wasn't even focused on lethicite production, it was just to poison the land to suppress Marae, and after many years, that was not on anyone's mind anymore.

Speaking of the 1st game, I always wanted to corrupt Kiha, It's a shame no mods have ever taken that route(From what I know).

Kiha is too anime for anyone to want to touch. You can kill her with mods though, and take her axe.
You could write the Kiha corruption route if you wanted. I'm fine helping anyone get into writing CoC1 content.

 

[Walk Cycle]

What the duck with the comment section 2k+ comments is this game really worth playing?

The Salt must flow

 

[Dugnutty]

What the duck with the comment section 2k+ comments is this game really worth playing?

It's fun to complain, but a good deal of it is constructive complaints. I broadly like the game, or some elements of it, even though I have zero interest in futa. The first time I played I had a bit of fun guessing which female character had a dick and came to the conclusion it's best to assume everyone has a dick.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Tbf in the original game Lethice didn't really do anything

True but Lethice didn't have to, she made all her major moves and the industrial sex complex infrastructure was set up to bukkake the environment and the nature goddess bothering her. And as much as demons just sorta vibed and fucked in CoC1, they still recognized her as a leader in some capacity and viewed her as powerful. Kas meanwhile is not really doing any planning or leading so no demon has reason to be team Kas. She has no plans and either can't or won't control the demons she's made. Granted in Lethice's case we only came in after she had pretty much won and never saw her rise but I mainly bring up the point of difference as an example as to why being a demon shouldn't end the game. Kas is no leader or ruler and has no sway over the demons that have been popping up and could not reasonably compel a demonic champion to do anything. We didn't see the unification of demons in CoC1 because the stuff that needed them to be actively unified was done.

Also Lethice's description sounds hotter than Kas's ngl.

Shame Lethice never got any art.

Problem is, Art can't carry it alone. There are a bunch of shitty isekai/returner manga that have god tier art but smelly shit-tier stories and characters. Go read "The Return of the Disaster-Class Hero" and come back to me. It has great art, but man the typical op mc is going to piss you off if you ever want to see another character shine.

Manhwa was a mistake.

Searched the wiki and couldn't find her, only through your image did I remember one of the easiest lays in the game. Like your relationship doesn't get ANY time to develop. I remember asking her for something and she was like "Yeah, we got to get married for me to give you that service." Lol, K. Bing Bang, she's pregnant and I'm forget about her existence a few hours later. Sucks for her.

"Sorry stranger I just met, sex is very personal and I'd like some courtship. And by courtship I mean a few minutes of talking and a marriage certificate."

The first time I played I had a bit of fun guessing which female character had a dick and came to the conclusion it's best to assume everyone has a dick.

Schrodinger's pussy.

Bro Athena is too nice, everyone else would have would have responded with demon timing. I can imagine Athena and Hera begging Zeus not to smite that bratty weaver shit.

Eris is my favorite.

 

[TerreCrimson]

What the duck with the comment section 2k+ comments is this game really worth playing?

It's a lot of valid complaints, but I feel like people generally like the game. Me personally, I love it, but I'm easy. You throw furries and futa at me and I'm in.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

What the duck with the comment section 2k+ comments is this game really worth playing?

That's a bit of a loaded question, mostly tied to what you consider to be your interests. And I only put it that way because...

It's fun to complain, but a good deal of it is constructive complaints. I broadly like the game, or some elements of it, even though I have zero interest in futa. The first time I played I had a bit of fun guessing which female character had a dick and came to the conclusion it's best to assume everyone has a dick.

There's the potential of something really fun in this, but that got sadly intercepted by the likes of Savin, Tobs, Alypia or Bubs. So wherever you could have something fun or just, you know, deep; it had to be deferred because then it would get in the way of someone else's views.

It's self-serving to its own detriment, even going as far as missing some more obvious points through sheer single mindedness or pettiness, this game's secondary fuel (right behind futa porn, of course).

We do have fun having a laugh at the game's expense, make no mistake, but we'd be fine with being wrong if the game became this absurdly qualified masterpiece where the sky is the limit and the player character was allowed to have the role they're supposed to have by default.

At this point, we who share this thought would rather they just finished the project and stopped dealing with it once it's over so the path is clear and safe for modding.

Where I imagine whoever is still willing to mod it, hopes to be the point where they can go at it without any disturbances.

 

[_/Abyss\_]

Heyy guys! Brint is my favorite character, and I've put this game down for a year while I was writing my final research paper. Just wanna know if there were any content updates for him, player focused content, preferably MLM. Thanks!

 

[_BMW_]

Heyy guys! Brint is my favorite character, and I've put this game down for a year while I was writing my final research paper. Just wanna know if there were any content updates for him, player focused content, preferably MLM. Thanks!

No. He does keep getting scenes of fucking other NPCs though.

 

[gembunny]

True but Lethice didn't have to, she made all her major moves and the industrial sex complex infrastructure was set up to bukkake the environment and the nature goddess bothering her. And as much as demons just sorta vibed and fucked in CoC1, they still recognized her as a leader in some capacity and viewed her as powerful. Kas meanwhile is not really doing any planning or leading so no demon has reason to be team Kas. She has no plans and either can't or won't control the demons she's made. Granted in Lethice's case we only came in after she had pretty much won and never saw her rise but I mainly bring up the point of difference as an example as to why being a demon shouldn't end the game. Kas is no leader or ruler and has no sway over the demons that have been popping up and could not reasonably compel a demonic champion to do anything. We didn't see the unification of demons in CoC1 because the stuff that needed them to be actively unified was done.

Kinda makes the fact that they used Lethice's "not doing anything" as a reason for why to make Kas an even weaker reason, when while Kas is more of an 'active' (In that I mean more seen, not that she does shit) figure, she's not really doing a whole lot in the grand scheme either.
Lethice's "not doing anything and sitting on her throne room" is really bc we came at the near end of the corrupted land when it was on a thin thread (but juuust enough of one that we can still undo things like the lake and allow it to heal with time and fight her minions) to where it's easy to say she had won by that point; the lake is -either mostly or fully- polluted and corrupting those within and around it, they destroyed civilizations like the mousefolks, her ilk is literally running around the realm, many that haven't succumbed had to go into hiding like Amily, Sheila's entire race, Kiha, and Minerva, etc. etc. The woman was pretty much able to comfortable sit at that point. Especially with how malleable the Champ was, so either you were to subdue it all or just be another pawn to fall into its mists anyhow.

When's the last time Kas did anything really substantial in a supposedly less corrupted world? There was the portal stuff from Winter City ig but I don't think that really meant much in the grand scheme, idk what else. There WAS gonna be a corrupted Khor'Minos path but they literally scrapped that bc actually having the world be affected by demons is not what they wanna write despite writing for a game about the corruption of the world and the player character in it.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Kinda makes the fact that they used Lethice's "not doing anything" as a reason for why to make Kas, when while Kas is more of an 'active' (In that I mean more seen, not that she does shit) figure, she's not really doing a whole lot in the grand scheme either.
Lethice's "not doing anything and sitting on her throne room" is really bc we came at the near end of the corrupted land when it was on a thin thread (but juuust enough of one that we can still undo things like the lake and allow it to heal with time and fight her minions) to where it's easy to say she had won by that point; the lake is -either mostly or fully- polluted and corrupting those within and around it, they destroyed civilizations like the mousefolks, her ilk is literally running around the realm, many that haven't succumbed had to go into hiding like Amily, Sheila's entire race, and Minerva, etc. etc. The woman was pretty much able to comfortable sit at that point. Especially with how malleable the Champ was, so either you were to subdue it all or just be another pawn to fall into its mists anyhow.

When's the last time Kas did anything really substantial in a supposedly less corrupted world? There was the portal stuff from Winter City ig but I don't think that really meant much in the grand scheme, idk what else. There WAS gonna be a corrupted Khor'Minos path but they literally scrapped that bc actually having the world be affected by demons is not what they wanna write despite writing for a game about the corruption of the world and the player character in it.

"Writing corruption in a corruption game is too much work, please understand." - Coc2 devs

 

[GokutheG]

Kinda makes the fact that they used Lethice's "not doing anything" as a reason for why to make Kas, when while Kas is more of an 'active' (In that I mean more seen, not that she does shit) figure, she's not really doing a whole lot in the grand scheme either.
Lethice's "not doing anything and sitting on her throne room" is really bc we came at the near end of the corrupted land when it was on a thin thread (but juuust enough of one that we can still undo things like the lake and allow it to heal with time and fight her minions) to where it's easy to say she had won by that point; the lake is -either mostly or fully- polluted and corrupting those within and around it, they destroyed civilizations like the mousefolks, her ilk is literally running around the realm, many that haven't succumbed had to go into hiding like Amily, Sheila's entire race, Kiha, and Minerva, etc. etc. The woman was pretty much able to comfortable sit at that point. Especially with how malleable the Champ was, so either you were to subdue it all or just be another pawn to fall into its mists anyhow.

When's the last time Kas did anything really substantial in a supposedly less corrupted world? There was the portal stuff from Winter City ig but I don't think that really meant much in the grand scheme, idk what else. There WAS gonna be a corrupted Khor'Minos path but they literally scrapped that bc actually having the world be affected by demons is not what they wanna write despite writing for a game about the corruption of the world and the player character in it.

Geez this game really is a CoC sequel in name only. This is majorly disappointing and that's coming from someone who like to play mainly on the good side.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

The intrusive thoughts are sometimes very hard to ignore.

I hate that they never become a target.

Yeah but if she uses the Mallach surrogacy method, then the kid gets raised in the grooming cult and indoctrinated. Weird as fuck we can't tell Ryn about Lumia since they've been getting closer. Hate to break it to Savin, but the identity fraud diety thing makes it rape by deception sooooooo...

The fact that they added that "twist" fucked the entire game. You the player can't do anything with it, you're character doesn't seem to even care, and there seems to be no option being explored to even "point a sword to heaven". Sometimes a twist should be an ideaworm and not put in place.

It's fine-ish. Like what's there is ok but it's really short and feels kinda like Jstar didn't want to do it or got rushed to get it out to fit the Christmas theme month just for the name pun. It's underwhelming.

For a regular scene it's extremly mid, for something hyped up for months and treated as the star of the show for an update? Pure shit.

Sounds like Gardeford lvls of mid. Bro definitely was burnt out.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

We've had a misunderstanding is all. The writers don't want to deal with it, not the coders. Code-wise, this is trivial. I could even tell you how to do it because the TiTS parser is basically the CoC1 parser, and CoC2 inherited code from TiTS. It'd have been ported from actionscript, but the concepts are basically the same.
But writing-wise, I get it. You have to account for the player having a penis, Ryn having a penis. The player having a vagina, Ryn having a penis. The player having both. Ryn having a vagina, you have a penis. You have a pussy, Ryn has one too. Ryn has both, you have one or the other, or you have both.
The potential to make spaghetti in a scene is there(though avoidable, a lot of things can be done efficiently). Knowing that Ryn only has one or the other simplifies writing a little.

Also simplifies design a little bit. If Ryn has both genitalia, how do you decide which one gets the spotlight in a scene? Your prose and flow may change if this is focused on Ryn's pussy or Ryn's dick. Do you just shoehorn in an extra button so the player can decide which one(CoC1 does this at times)? Aside form being a little cumbersome, that would also mean you either lazily make herm Ryn ignore the genitals you didn't pick to focus on or you are writing puss-focused herm and penis-focused herm. (I'd just make the penis scene be basically the same but having a few [if (rynhaspussy) { and other detail}] thrown in, and similar for pussy scene).
These added bits of complexity are more work for writing.

But the code is just not the issue.
I think when whatever source said "the writers don't want to deal with the parser" it was just a way to say they don't want to write extra variations in scenes. It's nothing special about Ryn's code.

But it's been done before we have blatant examples in the first game. We don't really have to think too hard about this as writers. And even if you don't want to do the whole mr. potato style addition to your scene, you can round it up into one tf instead of a bunch you have to account for.

I feel like it's all 3. The only non-bad demons are special snowflake npcs, I guess. Fucking lame. I want to be EVIL and do EVIL shit. War-crimes golare.

Nooo, no corruption in a game with corruption in its title, bro.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

The Curse of Brint. Don't like him? Too bad, he's everywhere. Like him? Too bad, all his updates have him fuck everyone else but you.

Savin tried so hard to make Kas a misunderstood woman that he stripped of her of any interesting traits and made her suck compared to Lethice, who I might add only showed up at the very end and had no character beyond evil lady in sexy nun outfit.

Petition to replace Kas with Lethice so the real demon waifu can get her much deserved character development.

Nooo, no corruption in a game with corruption in its title, bro.

Corruption? In my Corruption of Champions 2? Thank god that's not possible.

I hate that they never become a target.

I am a proud student of the Denji and Johnny Cage school of combat

The fact that they added that "twist" fucked the entire game. You the player can't do anything with it, you're character doesn't seem to even care, and there seems to be no option being explored to even "point a sword to heaven". Sometimes a twist should be an ideaworm and not put in place.

I don't think Savin fully grasped how bad an idea putting that into the game truly was. But him doing shit without thinking it through is a pretty normal occurrence. He doesn't even seem to realize he's made it so nothing matters because of them. Either Keros brings over more kitsune and colonizes everything, Mallach brings over his paladins and does to us what was done to Cait's mom, or Lumia does another inquisition. Thanks to them nothing we do matters, the world is fucked, we can only stop the cult and make it easier for the evil gods to inflict suffering onto others, Ryn would probably help Lumia be evil just like her dear dead granny did, Cait will help Mallach be evil, every kitsune we know and may like will help Keros swallow everyone's soul, this will never be addressed or acknowledged, the game's narrative that Savin seems so proud of is a pointless dead end, and the only true choice is whether you want to watch this shitshow unfold.

When's the last time Kas did anything really substantial in a supposedly less corrupted world?

I'd say identity theft and rape by deception but the Seven do that professionally.

I feel like there's a lot to unpack with why Savin made the seven as bad as he has while defending them but I'm scared to go down that road.

There WAS gonna be a corrupted Khor'Minos path but they literally scrapped that bc actually having the world be affected by demons is not what they wanna write despite writing for a game about the corruption of the world and the player character in it.

Ah yes, removing corruption content and not adding anymore corruption content. Such a well written and diverse game with so much choice and interactivity /s

 

[GokutheG]

I'd say identity theft and rape by deception but the Seven do that professionally.

I feel like there's a lot to unpack with why Savin made the seven as bad as he has while defending them but I'm scared to go down that road.

He thinks the ants who use drugs to rape and kidnap prisoners to be the good guys so of course he sees nothing wrong with things like a groomer cult.

 

[peeks1]

where is the save located?

 

[SatanHGG]

But it's been done before

Yeah that's what I mean with things like "(it's avoidable, a lot of things can be done efficiently)" but I got a bit off course there.
Mostly what I mean to say is it's nothing about code or parsing. Absolutely nothing on a technical level holds back Ryn from herm.

 

[TheGhostWriter2]

The fact that they added that "twist" fucked the entire game. You the player can't do anything with it, you're character doesn't seem to even care, and there seems to be no option being explored to even "point a sword to heaven". Sometimes a twist should be an ideaworm and not put in place.

If Savin isn't completely stupid, then he can fix that entire debacle by having it show up in the plot of Tychris. Since he's adamant about not giving the people a deicide route, then the next best thing would be to have an optional but impactful point in the story where you blackmail Nareva for... something, I guess. There's no way you leave a Chekhov's gun that massive in the game for some additional flavor text.