Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.35] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Alterism]

Man... Never have I had more that I wanted to say and not enough time to format it to be shorter.
This is likely going to be a gigantic fucking wall

If you want content you'll like, open a google doc and write it. That's what all the community writers wpended up doing.

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I distinctly remember most of the corruption content within the first game being incredibly ass. With a very inconsistent pc, going from a mustache twirling villain to an actual monster from part to part to the generally quality of the writing being far worse than almost any other section of the game.

Spoiler: Mega squish

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If you didn't like corruption, that's cool.
But that stance wasn't exactly in-line during the times when people were still asking for and writing it.

Never forget Treatment Reaha getting completely shafted, Reaha herself getting abandoned, and then getting the Amazon/Futa piece of said treatment content (to the surprise of no one) for her years afterwards.

I weep.

Goodness gracious.

Spoiler: personal bemoaning

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They do give a shit about it.

Everybody has a degree of "giving a shit". But it's a bit different from what you're insinuating.
If they were fully apathetic then they would have left and we'd be on the next generation of users who post in this thread.

Having engaged with this community, I'd say that interacting with the game in this way, from the point of a critic, is pretty fun. I derive way more entertainment from it now than I ever did when I was a fan.

That said, having played it just now in support of this post, corrupt Ahmri isn't bad.
A shame poor Eubicha keeps up the tradition of having all of her content being dominated by being fucked by horse cocks. Of demon companions, for CoC2 it's not bad. But, the whole casual fuck buddy doesn't tickle me in the same way that the PC's interactions with Ceraph and Vapula did.

 

[MarvintheBee]

Pretty much the most succcinct way to put it. The people involved are frankly just not decent human beings. It's always a mask-off moment whenever they have a public feud on discord or whatever too. Always petty and spiteful. There's endless crashout tirades from half the staff screenshotted on this thread here and there..

A congregation of assholes. Can't really expect much, fantasy hard kink smut is pretty niche and attracts unsavory people.

Okay can someone clue me in? I know of a few things like tobs starting a salt war with the community. And maybe the Savin Berwyn situation, (where we can't be 100% sure who was at fault because we never got to see the full picture to my knowledge).

But the other writers and stuff members are mostly drama free?

 

[MarvintheBee]

Spoiler: personal bemoaning

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Spoiler: Tits sadness

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That said, having played it just now in support of this post, corrupt Ahmri isn't bad.
A shame poor Eubicha keeps up the tradition of having all of her content being dominated by being fucked by horse cocks. Of demon companions, for CoC2 it's not bad. But, the whole casual fuck buddy doesn't tickle me in the same way that the PC's interactions with Ceraph and Vapula did.

Man Eubicha is such a weird one. I still don't understand what they planned for her. At the one hand we got Eubicha pregnancy, with an updated cute bust and everything seemed so wholesome. But then the main focus for every update after that seems to be just whoring her out to another futataur...
I just want some new Pc Eubicha centric content...
Or is she supposed to be replaced by Alante as Taur wife now. Because waiting for an expansion (which isn't gonna be just adding horsecock) for her seems also in the stars.

 

[DARK ECNELIS]

If you're not pregnant at all, the option won't appear.

Its dumb why do you need to get pregnant for a inspection?

Edit: And for the butt pregnancy, the option show up or not?

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I hear a lot of folks hear bemoaning Savin and his ability to lead but Fen seems to have completley it over the years.

Except Fen has mostly retired from managing and writing for TiTS several years ago (in september 2021 to be precise), and Savin became the one in charge.
So, just like with CoC2, you can blame Savin for recent and future TiTS failings.

 

[Axelfire]

not to diverge from the current topic but how does one trigger the new ahmri content, I have corrupted the centaur village but still nothing

 

[Anon_3.141]

not to diverge from the current topic but how does one trigger the new ahmri content, I have corrupted the centaur village but still nothing

Need to complete Winter Wolf (convincing Garth's wife to come back to Hawkethorne instead of living in exile in the ice zone past the Winter City). Once that quest is done and you've corrupted the centaur village, the next time you enter the Frosthound, you'll get the message that starts the new Ahmri content.

 

[MarvintheBee]

not to diverge from the current topic but how does one trigger the new ahmri content, I have corrupted the centaur village but still nothing

You just need base wayfort.

 

[Anon_3.141]

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You just need base wayfort.

Well, that's definitely not the case, because I had to go do Winter Wolf before I received the proc for the quest to rescue Ahmri. Tried sleeping in the Frosthound for an entire ingame month, and nothing. Went to do Winter Wolf like some people on the fenoxo.com post's comments said to do, and the instant I walked back into the Frosthound after completing that quest, the "Rescue Ahmri from Tollus somewhere in Undermountain" quest procs.

 

[trojohn505]

Long shot I know, but has anyone messed with the save editor enough to know how to reset the the centaur village? Basically story completed but its been years since CV was completed, with only the pure route having any payoff.

Would love to corrupt it instead but dont want to sacrificed/redo the rest of my save.

 

[MarvintheBee]

Except Fen has mostly retired from managing and writing for TiTS several years ago (in september 2021 to be precise), and Savin became the one in charge.
So, just like with CoC2, you can blame Savin for recent and future TiTS failings.

Fen still manages tits. Savin was a writer for a time and maybe offered input but Fen still holds full control.

Spoiler: Tits development hell because why not

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Well, that's definitely not the case, because I had to go do Winter Wolf before I received the proc for the quest to rescue Ahmri. Tried sleeping in the Frosthound for an entire ingame month, and nothing. Went to do Winter Wolf like some people on the fenoxo.com post's comments said to do, and the instant I walked back into the Frosthound after completing that quest, the "Rescue Ahmri from Tollus somewhere in Undermountain" quest procs.

Maybe you didn't wait long enough or forget to set up base wayfort (thats what I forgot the first time).
I included my save just before you rescue her.

 

[Anon_3.141]

Fen still manages tits. Savin was a writer for a time and maybe offered input but Fen still holds full control.
Maybe you didn't wait long enough or forget to set up base wayfort (thats what I forgot the first time).
I included my save just before you rescue her.

My Wayfort was definitely set up, as my save has basically everyone you can shove in there present, and you can't have most of them until the Wayfort is set up.

And I literally slept in the Frosthound for an entire ingame month, before heading up to the Glacial Rift to finish up Winter Wolf. After finishing Winter Wolf, I literally got the proc for Corrupt Ahmri rescue the moment I stepped foot back into the Frosthound.

 

[CboyC95]

I don't understand why the Wayfort couldn't be a second base alongside the Frost Hound.

 

[youraccount69]

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[sea47r]

But "consistency"? Now that's a a wholly new complaint more present in modern times than it ever was during CoC1's prime day.

Maybe you just werent actually reading the content you said you did(even though you mentioned corrupt jojo) but to simply say, it just isn't as good as other parts of the game. The formatting is weird and amateurish (suppose most of the people were amateur, huh), proper motive and reasoning isn't there, and as mentioned before, the PC can and will act OOC alot of the time.

When corruption content was added, it was wanted. People read, it, liked it, and made large amounts of posts, suggestions, etc because they like it.

Dont think i said it was ever *unwanted* the fact that it *was* wanted is half the damn reason so much shit was added to the first game

All my posts on the concepts were saying is that *I* thought the corruption in COC1 was very poorly done and shows some of the same lack of player agency many complain about in this game. All of those options you list lack any sort of nuance once the player character hits a certain level of corruption, now they are just willing to take over Whitney's farm or turn JoJo into a slave. That's probably what I would say my issue with any of the content is there's no slope. There is no slippery slope. It's on and off.

Again, i dont dislike corruption content, another thing i never said. I dont like that it's mostly not good and if the small bits of content within 2 that fits the bill would show the general quality of more corruption, i would just rather not have it

*edit: You're totally right about The Dark Master's work

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Fen still manages tits. Savin was a writer for a time and maybe offered input but Fen still holds full control.

Spoiler: Tits development hell because why not

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Bro, you keep blindly showing off those messages from Savin as if they are infallible truth. Should I remind you what a backstabbing snake Savin is? He's obviously throwing shade and slander at Fen, Will and everyone else.
Also, so fucking ironic seeing him talking about TiTS being in development hell; meanwhile just take one look at what state CoC2 is in.

Thinking on it, the situation looks strikingly similar to what happened with FOE. Savin has been sabotaging that one until it crumbled and died. And now he's doing the same to TiTS.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Spoiler: Mega squishsquish

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If you didn't like corruption, that's cool.
But that stance wasn't exactly in-line during the times when people were still asking for and writing it.

I was never around nor interested in this content while it was in its infancy, God forgive how far I've fallen, but its interesting how the drama tends to rhyme with these projects.
Personally loved the Corruption routes and while I do think that they needed a bit more fine tunning in terms of writing, they scratch that villain itch I get when a play as a good guy for too long. If you're playing an rpg and you are only allowed to be some flavor of "good guy", then good n evil don't matter and neither do your choices.
Tho I do think that the Corrupt PC of Coc1 is superior in the fact tht the player gets to control to a certain extent why they make these choices; if you played into Corruption things really feel like the PC is steadily going down a dark path, it isn't just boost a meter and the personality flips unlike Coc2. Content like Jojo n Kelt reflect this since both require you to go out of your way to corrupt them.
I don't mind the upsetting portions either since it ultimately gives the experience peaks and valleys in the enjoyment and drama and replayability. Remember drama is ultimately is what makes a lot entertainment entertaining.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Dont think i said it was ever *unwanted* the fact that it *was* wanted is half the damn reason so much shit was added to the first game

All my posts on the concepts were saying is that *I* thought the corruption in COC1 was very poorly done and shows some of the same lack of player agency many complain about in this game. All of those options you list lack any sort of nuance once the player character hits a certain level of corruption, now they are just willing to take over Whitney's farm or turn JoJo into a slave. That's probably what I would say my issue with any of the content is there's no slope. There is no slippery slope. It's on and off.

gonna hard disagree with there, as they did try to lock certain options in on the levels of Corruption but I do agree that barring Kelt, most of the options lack character motivation; Why does the PC want so much control? Why do they want to do these thing? Villains have a reason as to why they behave the way they do, and the writers had ample story beats n bits to make a corrupt run have reason. Coc2 Devs doesn't have the excuse of being amateurs or inexperienced, they just suck.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Can we give a clap to TOBs for finally having the PC have actual commentary :')) I thought it was some mental condition tht didn't allow him to let the PC have dialog that isn't summarize in overly wordy text

 

[thecatcameback]

Has anyone done the scenes with B's busty female Imp yet? Curious what everyone thought about her.

Can we give a clap to TOBs for finally having the PC have actual commentary :')) I thought it was some mental condition tht didn't allow him to let the PC have dialog that isn't summarize in overly wordy text

TOBs wrote a new thing?