Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.41] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Tsubuhaza]

I feel like NPCs overshadowing the MC and not really being corruptible/ influencable outside of sub/dom dynamics is because of them being essentially commision pieces placed into the game, with their original creators having the final say in what can and cannot be done to them. And a loooooooot of them are against any kind of meddling with their concepts or corrupting them

...Well, fuck, that's the origin of the problem then.

Savin and company made a game where the cast consists ostensibly of paid cameo characters and writer's pets. No wonder you can't do shit.

CoCX has a new quest thing where he eventually gets depowered and turned into a house cat. Can even give him a cat name.

Ah, nice, now I gotta try it out. Kept beating the fucker every time, might as well.

Enough a reason to come back, something the player can actually do without being bothered by the one random person that paid for that character.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

It is a truly shocking and completely surprising revelation. The likes of which no one in the multiverse could've ever seen coming. That filling up a game with a bunch of different OCs, from different people. Would lead to restrictions in what can and can't be done. With watered down and/or fuck the actual MC situations. Because said people are anal and protective over their precious babies. Who are the true MCs in their eyes. Even in a game about sex, violence, "corruption," and the forceful taking of the butt butt, among other orifices.

I ask you, WHO COULD'VE PREDICTED THIS?!?!

 

[Skandranon]

FINALLY I can get my tattoo from Klemaia.
Been waiting on that for years.

 

[AAmTT]

I don't like the billionth centaur futa OC that we got but she's a commission from someone who also visits f95 every now and then. I think y'all are being a bit much.

It's not the commissioner's fault that SavCo can't organize a patch to have more than 1 thing in it.

nah fuck that commissioner lol

 

[Yeppers34]

nah fuck that commissioner lol

Yeah fuck that commissioner, me and the homies hate that guy.

 

[Christ P Bacon]

can we preg alante yet in new version

 

[Christ P Bacon]

nah fuck that commissioner lol

jokes on you, i think the commisioner are into that, judging by how many dp and anal scenes with kalysea

 

[Yeppers34]

can we preg alante yet in new version

Nope

 

[Belphegor007]

It is a truly shocking and completely surprising revelation. The likes of which no one in the multiverse could've ever seen coming. That filling up a game with a bunch of different OCs, from different people. Would lead to restrictions in what can and can't be done. With watered down and/or fuck the actual MC situations. Because said people are anal and protective over their precious babies. Who are the true MCs in their eyes. Even in a game about sex, violence, "corruption," and the forceful taking of the butt butt, among other orifices.

I ask you, WHO COULD'VE PREDICTED THIS?!?!

Do they not have a clause that allows them to do what they want with a character regardless of what the original creators wants?
They did that with Berwyn and despite getting shit on Savin unironically does deserve the ability to utilize characters in his game after said creator leaves.
It's a game at the end of the day and more importantly a product being sold to people so the devs do need the ability to actually make a cohesive and fun experience for the user.
Savin and co already had enough trouble not pissing off everyone without having their hands tied behind their back.

Defending Savin is making me sick.

 

[Yeppers34]

Do they not have a clause that allows them to do what they want with a character regardless of what the original creators wants?
They did that with Berwyn and despite getting shit on Savin unironically does deserve the ability to utilize characters in his game after said creator leaves.
It's a game at the end of the day and more importantly a product being sold to people so the devs do need the ability to actually make a cohesive and fun experience for the user.
Savin and co already had enough trouble not pissing off everyone without having their hands tied behind their back.

Defending Savin is making me sick.

I kinda tried to look around for their commissions policy but couldn't really find anything either on the forum or their website (maybe I didn't look hard enough). So I'm guessing any commissioned character only gets updated when the person who commissioned it requests it. Otherwise they just become another one off character.

 

[Skandranon]

Do they not have a clause that allows them to do what they want with a character regardless of what the original creators wants?

Yep, it's in their list of rules.

It's why they're currently handing out all of Bubble's old projects, why the frost pup is getting a new scene, etc.

 

[harem.king]

I feel like NPCs overshadowing the MC and not really being corruptible/ influencable outside of sub/dom dynamics is because of them being essentially commision pieces placed into the game, with their original creators having the final say in what can and cannot be done to them. And a loooooooot of them are against any kind of meddling with their concepts or corrupting them

Which is funny because fenoxo claimed, when he first ended coc, that the reason he is ending it is because he made the mistake of being to generous on the license he gave content creators. such anyone who submits an NPC is the sole owner of said NPC and they can't do anything to said NPC without permission from the owner. even though a bunch of such owners disappeared on them.
He claimed that in tits he would fix it such that he would be allowed to do whatever he wants to the characters.

To be fair though, regardless of license, the whales who are literally paying hundreds of dollars to have their precious OC DONUT STEEL fursona added to the game are not going to keep throwing money their way if they make changes without permissions.
Their fursona is a dommy 8 foot tall futa with a 2 foot long penis who ONLY puts the penis in the MC while being domme and nothing else. No you can't corrupt their fursona, no you cannot turn things around, no you cannot dedick them. That will upset the donor who paid for their fursona to be added to the game or the writer for whom it is a self insert.

 

[thecatcameback]

If you put the condition that you can't make the OCs super special and invincible then there wouldn't have any takers for any of these games. No one would ever volunteer to write. Maybe Williams would bite. Then they would still bully him and keep him from releasing the stuff he really likes, despite being the only writer.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Do they not have a clause that allows them to do what they want with a character regardless of what the original creators wants?
They did that with Berwyn and despite getting shit on Savin unironically does deserve the ability to utilize characters in his game after said creator leaves.
It's a game at the end of the day and more importantly a product being sold to people so the devs do need the ability to actually make a cohesive and fun experience for the user.
Savin and co already had enough trouble not pissing off everyone without having their hands tied behind their back.

Defending Savin is making me sick.

Even if they had that type of arrangement. I imagine if you stick a couple extra funbucks up their asses. Or tickle their balls while whispering sweet nothings in their ear. You could either protect or at least soften whatever depraved fuckery they would inflict on your characters. Then again, isn't a lot of the asshattery in this game. Involving the OCs of the writers themselves? Them having control over everyone else's virgin asses. Doesn't hamper them from cucking you personally.

 

[Maldrid]

Good news! just heard from jstar in their forum that the lupine dungeon will be ready around december. finally we have date to when it comes out. i sure me and the five other people are looking forward to it.

 

[Walk Cycle]

If they get too aggressive in taking over a character they would get less submissions. Most people are not exactly as open as Kalysea's commissioner where they gave their fiat for anyone to make and commission a sub route for Kaly. If the CoC2 policy becomes "mandatory sub routes for dominant characters and vice versa" people won't like it.

Besides you have Tobs on the fucking writing team. Are you really willing to take a gamble on having your OC being on the receiving end of that psychic vampire? Not only is your OC getting trapped in purple prose hell, there's a chance your OC's "sub route" will be 99% rape scenes.

 

[Yeppers34]

Which is funny because fenoxo claimed, when he first ended coc, that the reason he is ending it is because he made the mistake of being to generous on the license he gave content creators. such anyone who submits an NPC is the sole owner of said NPC and they can't do anything to said NPC without permission from the owner. even though a bunch of such owners disappeared on them.
He claimed that in tits he would fix it such that he would be allowed to do whatever he wants to the characters.

To be fair though, regardless of license, the whales who are literally paying hundreds of dollars to have their precious OC DONUT STEEL fursona added to the game are not going to keep throwing money their way if they make changes without permissions.
Their fursona is a dommy 8 foot tall futa with a 2 foot long penis who ONLY puts the penis in the MC while being domme and nothing else. No you can't corrupt their fursona, no you cannot turn things around, no you cannot dedick them. That will upset the donor who paid for their fursona to be added to the game or the writer for whom it is a self insert.

To a degree i can understand that if someone commissioned a character they would want to approve any further content for that character. For example let's say i commissioned a childhood friend character in the minotaur city, all the content is pretty vanilla pretty much a PC exclusive character but then a couple of months later I play the game and I run into a scene where this character i commissioned is being passed around by a bunch of minotaur guards, I probably wouldn't be to happy about that.

*disclaimer i am not doing this, if something like this happens in game it was not me*

 

[Christ P Bacon]

Anyone can share new patch please?

 

[Belphegor007]

To a degree i can understand that if someone commissioned a character they would want to approve any further content for that character. For example let's say i commissioned a childhood friend character in the minotaur city, all the content is pretty vanilla pretty much a PC exclusive character but then a couple of months later I play the game and I run into a scene where this character i commissioned is being passed around by a bunch of minotaur guards, I probably wouldn't be to happy about that.

*disclaimer i am not doing this, if something like this happens in game it was not me*

Having this for side characters who exist solely for sex seems fine, but if you plan to include any character that exists to be a major part of the story or location there really should be a clause where they are allowed to continue to add content with said character outside of x scenes/fetishes you choose to be off limits.
I do believe however you shouldn't include major characters that lack any flexibility or prevent the player to actually interact with them.

Ultimately the thing is the second you put this up for sale on steam this isn't some commissioned project or whatever, but a product for the buyer.
If you wanted this to be for commissioners forever you should have kept it behind Patreon.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

If they get too aggressive in taking over a character they would get less submissions. Most people are not exactly as open as Kalysea's commissioner where they gave their fiat for anyone to make and commission a sub route for Kaly. If the CoC2 policy becomes "mandatory sub routes for dominant characters and vice versa" people won't like it.

Besides you have Tobs on the fucking writing team. Are you really willing to take a gamble on having your OC being on the receiving end of that psychic vampire? Not only is your OC getting trapped in purple prose hell, there's a chance your OC's "sub route" will be 99% rape scenes.

Man I don't even have an OC. But reading their disclaimer on submissions in the forum. Even my stomach started to turn at the idea of allowing them the keys to something I made. Just sinking further as I read on. I mean yea, the MC energy having ass side characters are annoying as a player. And they could be protected without being so over the top. But after that brief midartist crisis I just went through... I get it. At least to a degree.

I'd rather my character be a superhero then a multiuse onahole.