You get the caves location by doing Kaina's quest (giving her tea). I guess you can still find the cave but there will be no way to progress further and you won't be able to get Ashelander.
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Evelyn, the futa in the frosthound who you have to peep on and then stick around while she's getting a BJ, then either sit at her feet or in her lap to unlock her content. Props to the writer for making sure people were well on board with her content before locking it in, but she's also definately not my thing.
Sure, but do you need to have Azzy as a party member to open Kaina's quest? What happens if you never did the hornets or if you threw her in the corrupted honey? Do you get locked out of the Tea Time for Dragons quest? Or can you find the cave anyway without ever having met Azzy/having her as an option?
Tea Times for Dragons is a pretty old quest. In fact I finished it halfway several updates ago. So I guess you will find the cave but won't be able to kill Ashelander.
I'll probably get around to the quest eventually. Depends on how much it's worth it to my MC or not. I just was never into Evelyn or Azzy that much.
Technically the lack of appeal doesn't make it impossible to finish the quest. Plus, it's not the first quest which gives a reward the player might consider to be shit for whatever reasons. Pleasing everyone everytime is hard.
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OK, current update on the experiment. If you rush to complete Tea Time for dragons without meeting Evelyn and never helping Azzyrian then you can get to the cave and it asks you if you know any other royalty. There is only a continue button with no further prompts and you get kicked back out to the overworld. The cave is still on the map so I'm gonna make a seperate save and see if it's broken here or if I can return with Azzyrian/when I've dunked azzyrian.
Hey, at least it's better than the Cait problem where the game just assumes you recruited/like Cait all the time.
Hey, at least it's better than the Cait problem where the game just assumes you recruited/like Cait all the time.
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Does that mean we shouldn't strive to do it? Just allowing the PC to kill her and absorb her powers would be a huge improvement and not take much effort. If big dumb dragon doesn't want that, then throw in a few corruption points or something for doing so. Would literally be the perfect opportunity for corrupted champs to shine but nope can't be mean to their precious OCs!
Ideally the choice would include Etheryn so both bases are covered; But I suppose Savin/Alypia couldn't be bothered to write a TF set for Ryn.
Ryn has a whole expansion coming in a week or two; kinda makes sense noone would have been working her into a completely different expansion simultaneously.
What if your champ has the scion background? Or was march baron/baroness? Wouldn't that make you royalty?
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Obviously, the champ doesn't count, can't give the main character a power fantasy can we? (Seriously, does nothing, can't even mention it in dialogue. It was the first thing I noticed when I did this on my actual character who has noble scion background, guess we're just not noble enough... but a fucking monster girl counts because her mother is a "Queen". Also it's called the Amazon Spear, so it seems pretty pre-determined for NOT YOU and it has to be "Direct Descent" which the writers could have made include the champ, but we all know why they didn't.)
Anyway, results are in, the quest is stuck as uncompletable. Azzy is a braindead bimbo and Evelyn has been removed from the game, can't re-enter the cave but the quest is showing as in progress still. Also, fun note, I'd have thought Sanders would have had a word about Laiden being missing (also a brain dead bimbo now) but I guess this all happened before she had a chance to tell him she was his daughter. Honestly, it's probably better that way.
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I think it's not something that should be excessively stressed over.
Something like that would produce a clearly "best" choice, annoying people who would feel getting new content for NPC comes at the cost of not improving their own character. By trying to reduce annoyance you'd only introduce more of it. Pleasing everyone is hard.
This game already has like 7+ characters that hard-doms the PC
Mean while the PC can only hard-dom Milly and kind of Etheryn. Who can the PC fem-dom? i think only 1 person and thats not even a hard-femdom.
This games isn't even trying spread content for everyone's PC, most of game is saying why don't you have a dick or why aren't submissive? My PC can't want to be in charge?
NO
Mean while the PC can only hard-dom Milly and kind of Etheryn. Who can the PC fem-dom? i think only 1 person and thats not even a hard-femdom.
This games isn't even trying spread content for everyone's PC, most of game is saying why don't you have a dick or why aren't submissive? My PC can't want to be in charge?
NO
FemChamp can dom both Bri and Clementine, not to mention the cat harem. And that's just off the top of my head.
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Having choices actually mean something?! Oh no, the HORROR!11!Something like that would produce a clearly "best" choice, annoying people who would feel content for NPC comes at the cost of not improving their own character. By trying to reduce annoyance you'd only introduce more of it. Pleasing everyone is hard.
The best choice is what gives you most enjoyment. If people cry about it because they want to min-max while also wanting the character's content, that's their own problem. If it bothers them enough, they can very easily go into a save editor and give themselves the dragon stuff. Problem solved.
Going by your logic, we should only have one path through the entire game because someone might feel robbed if they don't get to experience all the content. Let's remove every choice in the game so that isn't a problem!
Yeah i meant bri but i forgot about pool lizard man. Clementine was more even than anything
Cat harem was more body worship
Kinda feels like you're going a little overboard here. The issue is that NPC vs PC choices probably aren't a good idea, which tbh I agree with.
Honestly I'm iffy on the NPC vs party member choice in this one too. The fact that Azzy's first new set since launch comes at the expense of another character I like is kind of a crappy move, when every other character got new sets at no cost whatsoever.
It is in theme for Azzy and crappy choices though so there is that I guess...
I really don't see it as player vs NPC though. The dragon TF is apparently tied to being a dom so subby players are going to be more likely to choose to give it to one of their doms (with only 2 choices, yay) but currently this gives a big middle finger to dommy players which letting them take the TF would fix.
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I'm offering ways to fix the problem with the quest. Are they perfect solutions? No, but they're definitely better than what we currently have for people who aren't into dommy dickgirls(Counting Azy because she shoves a bug dick down your throat without consent in one of the new scenes). And like ffive keeps trying to say, "Pleasing everyone is hard".
If you don't like my ideas to make the quest more inclusive to dom/vanilla players, feel free to offer your own suggestions.
Perhaps don't pointlessly involve her in the quest only to make her completely useless in the next five seconds, then? Could just be avoided by the throwaway character being anything other than a frost elf.