Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.1] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Sacred_Lamb]

TLDR: I have STRONG options about Rononoes NoNo list

disagreeing with cyberpunk 2077 being a redeemed game

Cyberpunk is complicated, the rug pull CD Project Red did should have ended them as a studio, they deserve that but they are still updating this game To This Day. So they are working hard to redeem themselves but again that just means they are probably willing to do the same shit once again. Personally, any trust I had in any game studio Died with them not even Fromsoft gets love freely from me anymore. Except Miyazaki, He Don't Miss!

saying, thinking or feeling anything positive about dragons dogma 2

I never understood that I mean the first one just had great gameplay and this one was no different, sure the DEI bits can go cliffdiving and the story is nonexistent but it was pretty mint all things considered. If anything it's just unfinished to which Capcom should be ashamed of.

saying, thinking or feeling anything negative about bloodborne

Masterpiece, CINEMA, The GOAT of Fromsoft games, THEE BEST FUCKING LOVECRAFTIAN GAME TO WALK THIS EARTH! Once you have played BB everything else feels like downgrade. The MUSIC, The Esthetic, The Weapon design, The Lore, how intertwined everything is with every aspect of the game; Peak fucking game fuck game design, a legit console mover the likes of which we haven't seen since Halo with Xbox and the 360. This game was a legit Obsession for me, and many others, to the point a Dude named Redgrave wrote a book on how perfectly intertwined this games is with itself. So No, no-one gets talk smack about BloodBorne, you either stfu or send praises.

saying, thinking or feeling anything negative about elden ring

It's just Big Dark Souls, which by itself wouldn't be bad if there weren't a 1000+ soulslikes shambling around. As an open world game it sucks, it's quest design sucks, it's lore would've benefited greatly from having an actual Narrative this time around like Sekiro. It's a Mid Fromsoft game but is miles better than any scholp put out but most studios by miles.

saying, thinking or feeling anything negative about fallout new vegas

This also applies to the earlier Fallout Titles (1&2) to a lesser extent, it's like calling your great great grand parents shit; you look like an asshole. It's a trailblazer, having the player actual role play when everyone else was just railroading the player, having consequences both good n bad for actions, each settlement having its own feelings about u, and having legit thought provoking content every now then to get the gamer thinking: "patrolling the Mojave desert makes u wish for a Nuclear Winter."

 

[CboyC95]

Okay, serious question, why?
I played it for a few hours and afterwards I felt legitimately depressed... like what-am-I-doing-with-my-life type of depressed...

Ok you're just taking the piss at this point. Name the things great about this game, express yourself.

I like being able to explore open worlds and flying to different planets. Plus, I kinda like science fiction so I really can't complain.

Most of the main settlements look amazing in their own right like New Atlantis with its Sci-Fi utopia aesthetic, Akila City with its rugged wild west feel, and Neon's cyberpunk vibe.

I've grown to like some of the character's like Barrett's friendly laid-back personality, Sam Coe's cowboy look and that he's voiced by the actor who voiced Adam Jenson from Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and Vasco.

Being able to customize your own ship was a nice touch, plus I've seen people made some cool looking ships online.

And I like some of the side missions like one has you investigating an "alien" ship above a paradise planet while another has you going to a different planet and meeting famous historical figures like FDR.

I like to think I'm an optimist.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I like to think I'm an optimist.

Bless your Heart

I like being able to explore open worlds and flying to different planets. Plus, I kinda like science fiction so I really can't complain

But Mate, you don't explore it's a fast travel menu and a glorified cut scene. You don't even get to cruse around in your spaceship.

I've grown to like some of the character's like Barrett's friendly laid-back personality, Sam Coe's cowboy look and that he's voiced by the actor who voiced Adam Jenson from Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and Vasco.

Characters are literally just flanderized versions of tropes, not even joking.

To each his own, and you should enjoy the things you like but you've lost ur card on giving constructive criticism.
It's like when someone who likes to eat ass and indulges in scat tries to critique the flavor of a dish; you have no business doing that, you eat actual ASS, what the fuck would you know about taste? All you can say is: "its just not for me."

 

[GokutheG]

I'm not sure who's TOBS' worst character but I hate their habit of creating a problem and then saying the mc/player is powerless to help. What's the point in bringing up the problem if there's no solution? I get Savin is against "power fantasy" but TOBS takes it to the next level by making situations where the player wants to help but saying that you can't and that feels awful.

It's part of why I don't free Kikiyo from the orb and keep my interactions with most Kitsune content to a minimum. The cute interactions with Kino turns to shit so I've decided to just not go down that route. Why you'd shit on a wholesome scenario by making one parent feel left out on important decisions(engagement) in her life makes absolutely no sense to me. Why interact with the Kitsune when all but 2 act like they hate your guts? Why would I waste my time with characters/content like that?

 

[ExcitedTengu]

I'm not sure who's TOBS' worst character but I hate their habit of creating a problem and then saying the mc/player is powerless to help. What's the point in bringing up the problem if there's no solution? I get Savin is against "power fantasy" but TOBS takes it to the next level by making situations where the player wants to help but saying that you can't and that feels awful.

It's part of why I don't free Kikiyo from the orb and keep my interactions with most Kitsune content to a minimum. The cute interactions with Kino turns to shit so I've decided to just not go down that route. Why you'd shit on a wholesome scenario by making one parent feel left out on important decisions(engagement) in her life makes absolutely no sense to me. Why interact with the Kitsune when all but 2 act like they hate your guts? Why would I waste my time with characters/content like that?

I just pump Kiyoko to max capacity before breaking them out, then I ignore the place forever unless I really want to see a Kohaku scene.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I'm not a fence sitter, I just don't think this is the place for this specific conversation. Now if we were arguing about who was the worst of TOB's characters it would make sense but not this.

Yeah I'm not gonna get baited into Tobs hate, it's been discussed and picked to Death at this point. N like Jooj Cena said shit that gets dropped is so lackluster that there isn't much to explore.

 

[PixelLewd]

Hey, I like Starfield.

I uhm, dunno what to say that others here haven't...........enjoy yourself I guess?

>Even in the pits where CoC2 is discussed, Starfield is almost unanimously considered bad
Todd has fallen to the level of Savin, a grim fate...

Is it Todd that has fallen to Savin's level, or Savin who has reached Todd's? Either way, we know not to trust a single word out of their mouths


"It Just Works" - Todd unknowingly sealing his fate on June 14th, 2015

"Insert fitting Savin quote here"

 

[Tsubuhaza]

>Even in the pits where CoC2 is discussed, Starfield is almost unanimously considered bad
Todd has fallen to the level of Savin, a grim fate...

Savin rode dicks so Todd could do fuck all and get paid for it.

Hey guy's we're on a forum where with just a click we can look at women with massive dicks battlefuck women with smaller dicks, let's not do politics here.

Yeah, sole DEI I know on here is the Damn Existence of Imps at every corner. Disappointed I couldn't somehow shove a futa joke there.

"Insert fitting Savin quote here"

"She's feature complete."

 

[PixelLewd]

"She's feature complete."

......I don't know whether to laugh or cry that I genuinely can't think of just ONE character that solely applies to, jeezus Savin finish your shit

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

It just feels abrupt to me in some of the scenes. Particularly the orgy, it makes it sound like there's another page of fun, but nope. Plus a few scenes come off as submissive after playing up how they're basically under your command. Petting Aesgir is a good example of this where they get upset with you for calling them a good puppy and not in a bratty way, but effectively telling you not to do it again or else. Then it comes off as your character being excited about the prospect of being punished, but at least it leaves it up to you. Just feels a bit dissonant to me.

I mean ain't that in the core DNA of this game? Your character but molded for someone else's personality, wants and desires on a whim. The champ wants to do everything, with you being the only reason they aren't allowed to you monster! Don't you see? Your champ wanted to be a sub. You as the horrible player having to make decisions every once in a blue moon. Are the one dashing their dreams of being a bottom. And not even a power bottom. They just want to take it all!

 

[dolosolo]

I'm not sure who's TOBS' worst character but I hate their habit of creating a problem and then saying the mc/player is powerless to help. What's the point in bringing up the problem if there's no solution? I get Savin is against "power fantasy" but TOBS takes it to the next level by making situations where the player wants to help but saying that you can't and that feels awful.

It's part of why I don't free Kikiyo from the orb and keep my interactions with most Kitsune content to a minimum. The cute interactions with Kino turns to shit so I've decided to just not go down that route. Why you'd shit on a wholesome scenario by making one parent feel left out on important decisions(engagement) in her life makes absolutely no sense to me. Why interact with the Kitsune when all but 2 act like they hate your guts? Why would I waste my time with characters/content like that?

"She's feature complete."

core DNA of this game

 

[procrastinator101]

I'm not sure who's TOBS' worst character but I hate their habit of creating a problem and then saying the mc/player is powerless to help. What's the point in bringing up the problem if there's no solution? I get Savin is against "power fantasy" but TOBS takes it to the next level by making situations where the player wants to help but saying that you can't and that feels awful.

It's part of why I don't free Kikiyo from the orb and keep my interactions with most Kitsune content to a minimum. The cute interactions with Kino turns to shit so I've decided to just not go down that route. Why you'd shit on a wholesome scenario by making one parent feel left out on important decisions(engagement) in her life makes absolutely no sense to me. Why interact with the Kitsune when all but 2 act like they hate your guts? Why would I waste my time with characters/content like that?

TObs is one of those cases that just plain shows how absolutely incompetent Savin is as a project manager. When it comes down to it, as a leader, you need to put your foot down on some matters and very plainly set a few things in stone. The PC in this game is a mess that changes from writer to writer to the point where they look like a schizo when looking at it from the outside. They're either the world's greatest ace or a bumbling moron who can't do shit right.

 

[GokutheG]

TObs is one of those cases that just plain shows how absolutely incompetent Savin is as a project manager. When it comes down to it, as a leader, you need to put your foot down on some matters and very plainly set a few things in stone. The PC in this game is a mess that changes from writer to writer to the point where they look like a schizo when looking at it from the outside. They're either the world's greatest ace or a bumbling moron who can't do shit right.

Somehow the mc in this game is written less consistently than TiTS' eventho that game has 3 different personality scores.

 

[Futa_Buddy]

I like being able to explore open worlds and flying to different planets. Plus, I kinda like science fiction so I really can't complain.

Most of the main settlements look amazing in their own right like New Atlantis with its Sci-Fi utopia aesthetic, Akila City with its rugged wild west feel, and Neon's cyberpunk vibe.

I've grown to like some of the character's like Barrett's friendly laid-back personality, Sam Coe's cowboy look and that he's voiced by the actor who voiced Adam Jenson from Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and Vasco.

Being able to customize your own ship was a nice touch, plus I've seen people made some cool looking ships online.

And I like some of the side missions like one has you investigating an "alien" ship above a paradise planet while another has you going to a different planet and meeting famous historical figures like FDR.

I like to think I'm an optimist.

Okay, those are valid points. I too liked the ship customization (but that's about it lol). Keep being an optimist, that's a good thing...

 

[FurrBat]

Looking at last review, apart from it glazing this more than a donut factory, maybe im too jaded but i feel like some people review the game based on their idealised imagined version of the game, also either i had a stroke or something because for love of me i cant understand the kinks section of their "review".

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Looking at last review, apart from it glazing this more than a donut factory, maybe im too jaded but i feel like some people review the game based on their idealised imagined version of the game, also either i had a stroke or something because for love of me i cant understand the kinks section of their "review".

The kink section made me laugh. Very Oversimplified-esque, "You better believe there's a tax kink for that" and all.

And to be fair, we're at a porn piracy site. I wouldn't expect academical reviews from people that may or may not have just relieved themselves over an encounter with a futa.

 

[LubricatedKitty]

Looking at last review, apart from it glazing this more than a donut factory, maybe im too jaded but i feel like some people review the game based on their idealised imagined version of the game, also either i had a stroke or something because for love of me i cant understand the kinks section of their "review".

I loved the game I was literally addicted to it a few years ago but it takes me having to have nothing else on my mind to really get into it. Compared to a lot of other games out there it's very limited. I have no issue with the writing like others, my issues with the game stem from it being so limited. I want to have unique and bountiful housing options, like the ability to live in a hut, cave, manor, castle. I want to be who I want to be, whether that is a price, king, general, or a random blacksmith, I want to build a family, recruit anybody as a follower, have anybody as a lover, etc.

The dev keeps on adding content upon more content with no game changing features like these. The content is great but the fact that the game gives the player barely any freedom/agency many other games give just leaves me feeling so empty at the end. I'm planning on making my own version of this type of game that is focused on features over content. Hopefully one day I can sit down and play it and feel fulfilment

 

[GokutheG]

I loved the game I was literally addicted to it a few years ago but it takes me having to have nothing else on my mind to really get into it. Compared to a lot of other games out there it's very limited. I have no issue with the writing like others, my issues with the game stem from it being so limited. I want to have unique and bountiful housing options, like the ability to live in a hut, cave, manor, castle. I want to be who I want to be, whether that is a price, king, general, or a random blacksmith, I want to build a family, recruit anybody as a follower, have anybody as a lover, etc.

The dev keeps on adding content upon more content with no game changing features like these. The content is great but the fact that the game gives the player barely any freedom/agency many other games give just leaves me feeling so empty at the end. I'm planning on making my own version of this type of game that is focused on features over content. Hopefully one day I can sit down and play it and feel fulfilment

Does the Wayfort and the people you can recruit there good base building for you? Are there other locations you want to settle?

 

[LubricatedKitty]

Does the Wayfort and the people you can recruit there good base building for you? Are there other locations you want to settle?

Yeah it's pretty good & yeah, it would depend on the playthrough

 

[ValeofLight]

Somehow the mc in this game is written less consistently than TiTS' eventho that game has 3 different personality scores.

Steele benefits from traits that help narrow down what should be done with them. They can sub to every kind of dick in existence, but the story still has to respect the fact they're a genetically engineered corporate heir motivated by family legacy, not some directionless nobody who wandered into a tavern one day. They've cultivated the image of a suave starship captain slutting it up across the stars that most people have in their heads -- with some variations here and there.

Meanwhile, CoC2's MC's backstory is more open-ended but doesn't have that strength of continuity. This results in writers having more of an avenue to run roughshod over the character and swing the personality pendulum farther between the extremes of charismatic hero and futa doormat.