Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.1] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Quintilus]

Ehhhhhh...no shes a bad character, in all senses of word 'character'. Okay, not bad, pretty meh, with really questionable parts.

First she have problems in her back story.
In one scene in dream palace she says, short version, 'I tried to get my soul back inside using Zeus smite....it failed'

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but literally in the next one, short version, 'being humans sucks, ME WANT BE DAEMON, YEEEEEE'

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But losing of soul leads to becoming a demon, by the world rules. So 'getting soul back -> becoming human again'?!?!??!?!?
Yes, she refers in other dialogue to shitsunes, short version, 'they have one big communal soul...fucking commies'

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but its not exactly the same as 'losing soul'. This implies that all shitsunes are technically zombies so you should not feel bad for killing them...I repeat 'genociding' them please gods of light and order.
Also implies that kassyra rather let someone strike her with lightning than asks for help with her problem from 'gods'.

Next, having child is her only goal...which is...really??? Is that the best savin can do?! While yes, its differs from 'conquer the world', but its just....weird, if not saying bad, motivation. If you think this is 'okay' motivation, we from very different planets.

 

[Teshay]

As much as I enjoy the early kitsune content since it's well written & thought out, as well as well fleshed, and I find Keros particularly amusing for the most part, I'll def be doing that when I do a second run, If I decide on doing that route again. Despite what Observer thinks, I don't have a issue in proving myself in a foreign society. I don't have some boner for beating down everyone who doesn't agree with me before dominating them with my will like alot of people seem to have. I however DO have a problem when Observer forces your character to automatically be a simp and do everything their told. Your not allowed to debate or argue under ANY circumstances, even when it comes to your own fucking family.

Like bro.....your kidding me right? The only reason my fucking family even has freedom is because I busted my balls to give them freedom and a possible future yet the moment they get out, everyone just flat out ignores you if they can and you have literally ZERO input on ANYTHING. Hell you can't even interact with your family besides Kiyoko who just wants to be bred constantly lol and Kinu, whom I'm not gonna get into too much as I'll just rant on too much lol Suffice to say, Kinu Hime is the pinnacle of what's wrong with the kitsune content. I get with what Observer trying to do, parenting and all that. You can't control your kids like a slave but you can't even yell, argue or even debate with her, let alone influence or give any input. Your are ALWAYS just there, in the background almost not existing lol I'd love to just stand there and call her out on her bullshit but no no no no! By Observer, your character MUST think Kinu the greatest thing to have EVER been created and is so perfect, she's even beyond the powers of a mary sue lol

The only character I'd act as a "Barbarian" and kill is Hime's fiancé but I'm sure like 95% of the entire playerbase hates him and want him dead. Observer has a fetish for like showing this guy off like he's the greatest martial warrior there is......that's why I one shotted him in the first turn of the fight right? Oh doesn't matter, he's gonna write it as if you were nearly tripping over yourself and almost got yourself killed. Either write different outcomes depending on the outcome of the fight between the characters or write something neutral.



I've never really gotten the fascination with Brienne honestly but than again my taste are boring and stereotypical compared to the host of people who play this and ESPECIALLY, TITS lol My issue with Brienne is the same I have with a female Keros. Like yeah, he's a female in every sense of the word but in the back of my mind, my mind still like "Bro, it's still Brint in there, you know, your homie, you basically wanna fuck your best bud? In a woman's body?" lol That and I'm not into Brienne's design/appearance but again, my taste are boring. I'd rather fuck a bunch of normal like looking individuals with realistic assets than some eight legged spider woman with H cup titties that could crush you lol I'm looking at you TITS with all your herm's and J cupped women lol

The problem is It's a porn game and I play this shit for power fantasy and empowerment. If brint ain't taking my dick, why would I let him fuck any of my chicks? That's why Arona is cool to me we're bros but the power dynamic is clear. I don't like fucking gods in the game because of that power dynamic. Like, are you really rocking the god of sex or Lumia with your skills? Or are they just letting you do this? It's practically a pity fuck. Keros just makes it clearer, Kitsune sex is always so wimpy or depressing, except for your wife.

I understand that's how you see Brint, but I never really saw him as anything other than competition or unwanted because I'm a dom and I like to be in control. Brienne devotes herself entirely to you through actions and words. Like her and Lyric stroke my ego and that's what I like. It also makes me want to care for and spoil them more. Arona is the closest thing to a bro for my character. And Cait is just a friend with benefits. I understand the aversion to hyper stuff, I'm more neutral towers it.

 

[Spider Crusader]

First she have problems in her back story.
In one scene in dream palace she says, short version, 'I tried to get my soul back inside using Zeus smite....it failed'
but literally in the next one, short version, 'being humans sucks, ME WANT BE DAEMON, YEEEEEE'

Maybe two personalities get along in her head, one of which is trying to get her soul back, but for the most part she is controlled by a corrupt personality? In any case, I am not a psychologist or a demonologist, but, as for me, this may make sense.

Next, having child is her only goal...which is...really??? Is that the best savin can do?! While yes, its differs from 'conquer the world', but its just....weird, if not saying bad, motivation. If you think this is 'okay' motivation, we from very different planets.

Perhaps corruption exaggerates the desires of those who were once "normal". I mean, Kasyrra may well have wanted to start her own family at some point, but in the end she became who she is: a corrupt person with corrupt ideas.

 

[Teshay]

Ehhhhhh...no shes a bad character, in all senses of word 'character'. Okay, not bad, pretty meh, with really questionable parts.

First she have problems in her back story.
In one scene in dream palace she says, short version, 'I tried to get my soul back inside using Zeus smite....it failed'

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but literally in the next one, short version, 'being humans sucks, ME WANT BE DAEMON, YEEEEEE'

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But losing of soul leads to becoming a demon, by the world rules. So 'getting soul back -> becoming human again'?!?!??!?!?
Yes, she refers in other dialogue to shitsunes, short version, 'they have one big communal soul...fucking commies'

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but its not exactly the same as 'losing soul'. This implies that all shitsunes are technically zombies so you should not feel bad for killing them...I repeat 'genociding' them please gods of light and order.
Also implies that kassyra rather let someone strike her with lightning than asks for help with her problem from 'gods'.

Next, having child is her only goal...which is...really??? Is that the best savin can do?! While yes, its differs from 'conquer the world', but its just....weird, if not saying bad, motivation. If you think this is 'okay' motivation, we from very different planets.

Considering she was turned against her will and has been fucking, dominating, and doing all the vile shit she can think of, her wanting to have a pure and honest child to care for doesn't sound far off. Then again, I'm biased and wish to make Kass mine at the end of the day. Like what else could she really want that she couldn't just take? Of course, you'll eventually want something you never got to try or have.


It'd bother me if all my sperm turned into fuck crazed monsters who try to jump on my dick seconds after being born. I don't think having a child is her only goal though, I do think is a primary one for her.

 

[88Michele88]

LT can't really be compared due to how it's erotic scenes for most events even function. It's basically a sandbox version of a sex scene that depends pretty heavily on the users imagination. Admittedly a pretty good sandbox given there's support for nearly every by nature of how it's made.



Ya know what. I'll concede that it's probably a serious amount of work on the coders. And I'll go ahead and additionally give props on them for working relatively quickly with the workload that often gets smashed onto them as the word count for scenes gets increasingly longer.
But so is the parser that was added a monthish ago that adds yet another one in regards to her buttslutt status. And I'd wager more people would rather have a vagina than a reaffirmation status effect (turned perk) of what a character obviously is.

Poly/not shouldn't even be an option given that threesomes et all is (or at least was when I still supported this project) content. Which of course you'd never know as an end user when one of the things to look forward to splashed on the characters page is an eventual incoming assortment of threesomes. heh.

Meanwhile corrupted hive still hasn't been finished and there's more people into corruption than that. Let me see if I can't find the polls. I still have them saved somewhere.

That said, I've being a real downer debbie so I'll be err... Tempering my commentary.

why there I se no where MC PC dominating other in this poll? We have too much MC sub then dominant one.

 

[icecreamman99]

Got to disagree with you. Consider the imp hoard is practically endless and they just keep coming. So I don't see the minotaur's struggle as laughable, The mino's are superior warriors and have better tactics but what the fuck do you do against a near endless horde? It's a war of attrition and they are losing. What makes demons so scary is the influence they have on others. Their corruption could be affecting a lot of the people you are fighting (most likely not). But I also think the main reason they aren't using demons like that is because it's being saved for later on in the game. But that's just how I see it.

Your confusing your demons from other settings for demons in this setting because imps in this setting are a joke, they are just naked horny ppl that are all like 4ft nothing and below that are unorganized groups and if things thing are supposed to be like coc1 that are weak cowards that can only jump ppl. None of what imps do and are should make them a threat too a "rome," the only thing they could do "AT MOST" exhaust the troops but even then that's not what being shown.

anything else about imps has been said by MoneyMan181 and others

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Ehhhhhh...no shes a bad character, in all senses of word 'character'. Okay, not bad, pretty meh, with really questionable parts.

First she have problems in her back story.
In one scene in dream palace she says, short version, 'I tried to get my soul back inside using Zeus smite....it failed'

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but literally in the next one, short version, 'being humans sucks, ME WANT BE DAEMON, YEEEEEE'

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I wouldn't say the whole flip flopping on demonhood is a storytelling flaw, she was initially resentful of her demonic nature, grew to live with it and then grew to like it. Little to no timescale is given for these events though we know it's a while since she talks about becoming a demon when they first entered whatever realm CoC1 took place in and not leaving said realm to start the events of CoC2 until after Lethice falls. CoC1 also mentions a tradition of champions being sent through the portal which implies it's multigenerational, so Kas could well be hundreds of years old by the events of CoC2.

 

[icecreamman99]

why there I se no where MC PC dominating other in this poll? We have too much MC sub then dominant one.

You'd think that would be in there as a given but they seem to trying to avoid most of that for all their ocs and when the do they add it as soft dom.
I think the only pc sub themed characters for the pc are the storage centaur, bath lizard man, milly the baker, Berwyn, and maybe the shark leader.

 

[Daken9]

The problem is It's a porn game and I play this shit for power fantasy and empowerment. If brint ain't taking my dick, why would I let him fuck any of my chicks? That's why Arona is cool to me we're bros but the power dynamic is clear. I don't like fucking gods in the game because of that power dynamic. Like, are you really rocking the god of sex or Lumia with your skills? Or are they just letting you do this? It's practically a pity fuck. Keros just makes it clearer, Kitsune sex is always so wimpy or depressing, except for your wife.

Best bro character in the game (possibly because there's no other). Fucked up best girl is the genderbending minotaur and 2nd best girl is a 12 inched orc bro but that how it be.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Speaking of which, who the fuck would actually be attracted to Kasyrra?
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It looks like she has demonic stds.

What can I say, I love the kind of woman who can actually just kill me.

 

[Duke Greene]

Speaking of which, who the fuck would actually be attracted to Kasyrra?

I am. She's pretty much the only reason I haven't given up entirely on this game.

 

[Quintilus]

In any case, I am not a psychologist or a demonologist, but, as for me, this may make sense.

It could, but for now its not. Maybe in the future this will be fixed (ha-ha-ha) and it would have more sense.

Considering she was turned against her will and has been fucking, dominating, and doing all the vile shit she can think of, her wanting to have a pure and honest child to care for doesn't sound far off.

Than it rises even more questions. She still remember that demons are bad, how she fight them, that it was her mother and that she killed her

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And shes being demon now are like 'oh yes, corruption, not a big deal at all, pfffff....'. What is...How she...Why does...
Somebody said that savin tries to make her looks good aka a victim of circumstances. Yes it feels like it, like 'shes actually good perspn, but everybody around her was a big dicks all the time'. However he doesnt know how to do it properly and it looks like it looks.

I don't think having a child is her only goal though, I do think is a primary one for her.

Well, yes, but its not stated directly what would/should happens next.

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Little to no timescale is given for these events though we know it's a while since she talks about becoming a demon when they first entered whatever realm CoC1 took place in and not leaving said realm to start the events of CoC2 until after Lethice falls. CoC1 also mentions a tradition of champions being sent through the portal which implies it's multigenerational, so Kas could well be hundreds of years old by the events of CoC2.

Time scale retconed, from the look on the what she says.

 

[Rocky Pineapple Rhythm]

a storytelling flaw

Everything was pretty clear cut, Wizards show up, go insane, become demons, world goes to shit, champ shows up, the end. Everything that happens in coc1 pre-MC happens over a span of about 20 years, so 1 generation if that, and canonically it takes the MC 1 year to beat lethice. As for champs in general they were sent once a year not generationally, but there were multiple portals so non stop meat for the grinder.

All that considered that puts Kas in her late 30s to early 40s at the start of COC2. If she was a young woman when all this started, and considering all her "daughters" are of consenting age*. Means she resolved to became the new BBEG within 2 to 20 yrs tops.

*Not accounting for time fuckery that happens to kids in these games cause that shits just a mess.

 

[gregers]

you will find out that she is.. Nice?
I mean personality.

Nice. Genocidal. Potayto. Ptomaine.


(Although I confess I've never found her interesting enough to endeavour to learn more about her.)

 

[smithsmithsmith]

Everything was pretty clear cut, Wizards show up, go insane, become demons, world goes to shit, champ shows up, the end. Everything that happens in coc1 pre-MC happens over a span of about 20 years, so 1 generation if that, and canonically it takes the MC 1 year to beat lethice. As for champs in general they were sent once a year not generationally, but there were multiple portals so non stop meat for the grinder.

All that considered that puts Kas in her late 30s to early 40s at the start of COC2. If she was a young woman when all this started, and considering all her "daughters" are of consenting age*. Means she resolved to became the new BBEG within 2 to 20 yrs tops.

While it's true that one was sent every year it's also refered to as 'the cursed demon realm' and champions had been sent for as long as the CoC1 player character could remember. If we're being super literal then this is at least 18 years but the realm has also been completely subjugated to the point where it's refered to as a realm of demons. 20 years is a pretty short amount of time for an entire world to be destroyed to the point where only a single city is important enough to note (while this is more likely due to the nature of how CoC1 developed as a game rather than a serious lore consideration it's still true none the less). End of the day point stands, the timeline is murky at best and either way it's plenty of time for a change in perspective from Kas.

 

[Teshay]

Your confusing your demons from other settings for demons in this setting because imps in this setting are a joke, they are just naked horny ppl that are all like 4ft nothing and below that are unorganized groups and if things thing are supposed to be like coc1 that are weak cowards that can only jump ppl. None of what imps do and are should make them a threat too a "rome," the only thing they could do "AT MOST" exhaust the troops but even then that's not what being shown.

anything else about imps has been said by MoneyMan181 and others

Except they are a problem, which the lore has stated. Yes in single combat they are weak as shit but in a group, they are a legit threat. They are inorganic but all want to fuck/rape pure people. Why the hell would you overlook that as something nonthreatening? A flying midget backed up by hundreds of midgets want to fuck you into you're a corrupted shade of what you once were. And it's literally been stated that they are having an effect on the troops, making them have to switch out with one another. I feel like you are ignoring the threat they pose.

And the Minotaur kingdom has one of the STRONGEST armies in the world. Not to mention a literal god-blessed Paladin(Calise) is there and it's still a struggle. Yes, I agree it isn't shown a lot but it has been shown when you first arrived and stated that the imps are slowly pushing them back with their endless numbers. It hasn't been shown more because the main story is on the back burner.

 

[Teshay]

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Best bro character in the game (possibly because there's no other). Fucked up best girl is the genderbending minotaur and 2nd best girl is a 12 inched orc bro but that how it be.

Yeah, Those two are my favorites. I like how simplistic and to the point both of them are. I don't like Quiin because I can't fuck him or hurt/spook him when he makes a pass at my companions. Arona is both my bro and my bitch, but she's still her own person (sorta if we don't take in to account how the corrupt champ could mold her), she doesn't do a 180 and turn into a subby little bitch girl. She still pretty much the same unless in certain scenarios. She just knows who her Top is.

Brieene just hits a bunch of my fetishes. A strong, muscular chick who is utterly devoted to you and is super submissive to you? Fucking diamonds.
I know my view is pretty limited/simplistic, but I play this game to escape and enjoy the power fantasy.

 

[Teshay]

I also wish the male npcs in the game were fuckable. From burly to twink, I want to dick them and I can't do that so of course I'm not going to give a shit about them. The only guy npc I'm don't feel that way towards is Garth and his son, Garret. They are alright guys and I'm not attracted to them. I want to hate-fuck the hell out of Quinn, that wannabe player bitch. Legit guy has no rizz and relies on his lust magic to get people going.

Then when you talk about companions he keeps talking about how he wants to fuck them. Even your wife, dude has is really something else. Not to mention this little bastard was surprised I ended up as the top in the relationship with Arona. I'm literally a 8'7 tall demon warrior-dude whose fucking ripped. Arona's 7'10. Quinn should be more surprised I don't bend his bitch ass over and fuck him in front of everyone in the bar.

On a non-character note, I don't like male characters like Quinn because they scream cuck shit. I heard Savin is into that but thank God I haven't run into any of that stuff. He's also just not very interesting. What does he have going for him other than cultist shit?

 

[Deviton123]

I also wish the male npcs in the game were fuckable. From burly to twink, I want to dick them and I can't do that so of course I'm not going to give a shit about them. The only guy npc I'm don't feel that way towards is Garth and his son, Garret. They are alright guys and I'm not attracted to them. I want to hate-fuck the hell out of Quinn, that wannabe player bitch. Legit guy has no rizz and relies on his lust magic to get people going.

Then when you talk about companions he keeps talking about how he wants to fuck them. Not to mention this little bastard was surprised I ended up as the top in the relationship with Arona. I'm literally a 8'7 tall demon warrior-dude whose fucking ripped. Arona's 7'10. Quinn should be more surprised I don't bend his bitch ass over and fuck him in front of everyone in the bar.

On a non-character note, I don't like male characters like Quinn because they scream cuck shit. I heard Savin is into that but thank God I haven't run into any of that stuff.

On a semi-related note, this is why I avoid Bubbles NPCs like the plague (that stupid gangbang shit with Lusamine as an example). Even Brint let's you do him in the ass.

 

[fakklan]

As far as this game's standards go, Kas is okay when you talk with her, but a shitty dumbass villain when you're not being friendly with her. She is also a herm, and there's nothing better than a herm. Not a fan of horsecocks, but she has a mottled one and it look alright. She should lose piercings tho, because piercings are cringe.

Imps and corruption have barely any meaning and basically never is it a threat to player or something to consider with TFs or any mechanics, which makes you forget it exists in the first place. If you took it out of the game, it would make 0 impact. Lore is shit and inconsistent with what we see in gameplay, but I'd pin it on how there's many writers, and how Savin has his great vision. After all, there's much stuff that should've had content ages ago, but doesn't.

Imo the biggest problem of this game, as well as TiTS, is how they go for more various content rather than expanding what already is there... or at least finishing the fucking game before they write their newest one-off encounter OCs. Like how in TiTS there are named NPCs with barely any content yet they keep adding more, or how here they add shit like horsecock elf random encounter in CoC II, instead of putting their brains on some new scenes for existing, NAMED NPCs like... I don't know, anybody? It may be a stretch with that, but I guess maybe I'm just angry the game feels about the same as it did few years ago.