Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.1] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[harem.king]

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Seems someone isn't aware of the planned marriage content for Cait or the general thinking behind her.

Spoiler: Definitely not a waifu

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so to paraphrase what devs say about cait

If you love a woman and want to marry her. Make sure to keep her poor so she can't follow her dreams of becoming a whore.

My sides are in orbit

Its not like you convince her or corrupt her into running a temple brothel. You just allow her to have enough money to follow her dreams.

Also... brothel? what happened to it being a TEMPLE.
Because remember cait is a victim of the groomer religion in the game. And believes herself to be a priestess of whores.

 

[Biostar]

Point of order: Alypia isn't staff. "Just" a community writer, like B. I'm not sure how much she actually knows about future plans.

It's why I pointed out earlier Savins lack of response and talking about an actual Cait marriage: Alypias words don't hold quite as much weight, I think.

Potayto, potahto. She's prolific enough and outspoken enough on behind the scenes stuff to not be immediately disregarded simply because it's convenient. If her claims were that wild, I doubt Savin would stay mum about all the stuff she says on the regular. Hell, Savin liked that specific post of hers so obviously he's aware of it and agrees with it.

 

[Skandranon]

Potayto, potahto. She's prolific enough and outspoken enough on behind the scenes stuff to not be immediately disregarded simply because it's convenient. If her claims were that wild, I doubt Savin would stay mum about all the stuff she says on the regular. Hell, Savin liked that specific post of hers so obviously he's aware of it and agrees with it.

Why wouldn't he? It's a post defending the staffs work.

Maintaining the idea that some paths are going to be built out at some nebulous point in the future by not saying anything concrete about them is what they've done for the length of the whole game. Letting Alypia say it and not weighing in gives him plausible deniability when it inevitably doesn't happen.

I think non-staff members are clearly on a different level of treatment than staff. See also: Brihaus getting pushed through (Savin didn't even read it he claims) and B's genie sitting in the review queue for 9 months (and B's been around far longer than Wsan OR Alypia).

 

[Biostar]

Maintaining the idea that some paths are going to be built out at some nebulous point in the future by not saying anything concrete about them is what they've done for the length of the whole game. Letting Alypia say it and not weighing in gives him plausible deniability when it inevitably doesn't happen.

Want to try again? I know you're the resident advocate for them, but sometimes it really boggles me the lengths you'll go to excuse their shenanigans. You're basically saying "they've made false promises before, so you shouldn't expect shit!" You're right, but I'm still going to call them out for it.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

At least this latest definitely-not-kitsune has repeatable preg content, right?

 

[Skandranon]

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Want to try again? I know you're the resident advocate for them, but sometimes it really boggles me the lengths you'll go to excuse their shenanigans. You're basically saying "they've made false promises before, so you shouldn't expect shit!" You're right, but I'm still going to call them out for it.

Advocating for them? How did you get that at all?

I said was Alypia probably doesn't know what she's talking about, and Savin is willing to let people believe whatever and will probably not flesh out an alternate path, because they rarely do.

How do you flip-flop that into excusing them for anything?

 

[Quintilus]

Honestly Cait sluttery could have zero impact on her relationships with player, if handled properly.
Consider this sequence
Cait spent her entire life in sex temple, learning how to pleasure pp -> got into a this game (hard pressing F) -> lost sister -> meet player -> step on the road of adventures, to put down demons and their supporters -> remembered that she was sent here to built a temple of sex (thats not the actual reason why shes there, IIRC, but whatever) -> after building is built she goes inside for a usual, for her, activity -> spends there X time -> slow realization that player cares about her more than just a piece of meat with a hole in it, like everybody else in the temple (agreed to help her get he sister back, built temple, general 'people become closer to each other after passing trials of fate together') -> expresses her feelings to player (optionally after Y time, with some/lots of reflection) -> 'but Im a SLUT, anonname!!!!! what do you think about that????' -> roundabout crossroad here

'Yes, you are slut, but you MY slut' -> vanilla path, she drops her semi regular sluttery but shes still is a highly professional slut (means kinky, messy sex)
'Yes, are are slut, but its hot and spicy' -> she keeps going on a regular gangbangs on CD, but player now can be included in them and/or her pussy now is players personal property and/or player impregnates her to and/or lots of other variants
'Yes, and thats a problem!!!!! Hard pass for me!!!!!' -> kittycat is still with player but thats the end of her path

I spent like ten minutes on it. Does that mean Im better writer than a semi professional smut writer with 40K benjamins income?

 

[Biostar]

Advocating for them? How did you get that at all?

I said was Alypia probably doesn't know what she's talking about, and Savin is willing to let people believe whatever and will probably not flesh out an alternate path, because they rarely do.

How do you flip-flop that into excusing them for anything?

By you beginning all of this by trying to "uh ackchyually" use Alypia's status as a community writer to downplay what she said and coming up with this goalpost move that Savin didn't personally say it, which I just invalidated as well. Either it's you trying to excuse Savin or being a pedantic asshole. I don't know which one you prefer.

 

[M0nte]

Question about Brints marriage: does it present the champion overtly feminine?

And how is Briennes for that matter?

 

[glygoch]

Question about marriage: Why is this concept even in the game? It has quite literally no meaning. At least not in any way for which marriage has historically evolved.

 

[Mrbark1234]

slow realization that player cares about her

STOP THIS MADNESS IN THE NAME OF YOUR KING!!!!

 

[Biostar]

And how is Briennes for that matter?

It was sweet, but like someone else mentioned, kinda underwhelming for how long it took and none of your companions attend it. The post-marriage sex scenes are just 1 on 1 and for some inane reason we're written as if we need magical help to stay hard for 3 nuts, which is just bizarre for Wsan. Nothing really memorable.

Question about marriage: Why is this concept even in the game? It has quite literally no meaning. At least not in any way for which marriage has historically evolved.

It has as much meaning as you want it to have. To me it's me officially announcing to the world that this is my ass, don't touch. It also makes me the actual chief/king/whatever of whatever are they govern. Plus wives sound better than lovers.

 

[Daken9]

'Yes, you are slut, but you MY slut' -> vanilla path, she drops her semi regular sluttery but shes still is a highly professional slut (means kinky, messy sex)
'Yes, are are slut, but its hot and spicy' -> she keeps going on a regular gangbangs on CD, but player now can be included in them and/or her pussy now is players personal property and/or player impregnates her to and/or lots of other variants
'Yes, and thats a problem!!!!! Hard pass for me!!!!!' -> kittycat is still with player but thats the end of her path

> "I don't know how to answer that. I built the temple for a Kaz scene. Please leave."

 

[Skandranon]

By you beginning all of this by trying to "uh ackchyually" use Alypia's status as a community writer to downplay what she said and coming up with this goalpost move that Savin didn't personally say it, which I just invalidated as well. Either it's you trying to excuse Savin or being a pedantic asshole. I don't know which one you prefer.

No. You missed my point completely, somehow.

I'm saying that the alluded to "regular romance route" probably isn't going to happen, which is why I said Savin is being intentionally evasive about it, something the staff has been known to do. Anyone getting thier hopes up for is is very likely to be disappointed. I wouldn't trust that Alypia knows what she's talking about, and Savin has either not said anything or been vague enough that he can wiggle out of any claims of disappointment. Even what you posted is him being coy about it; if (when) it doesn't happen, he just points out he said 'MAYBE' and moves on.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

No one wants her? Really?

The only individuals complaining about Cait whoring herself after she tells you that's exactly what she does, are from this forum.

No one was taken by surprised, it's literally spelled out. She's there for people to enjoy a fuckbuddy, not for anyone to marry.

It's like some of you live in an alternate reality. Who the hell is "angry" about "no one" liking Cait, by the way?

You can't do that but then put in an option where you can thank her dad for making her in front of her face, which flusters her. Have you gaze lovingly into each other's eyes. Or have her companion quest culminate in her letting you being the first person to ever give her anal. (Still find it hard to believe that with her countless partners nobody ever pulled an Arona and just forced her or was inexperienced and did it by accident.)
Savin is a cake-eater, he loves making bubbly sluts who are down for anything, which is fine. But for some reason always tries to shoehorn in a romantic angles. This would be fine if you could do the exact opposite. Have your character tell her dad thanks for making the best lay you've ever had and you can't wait to see if Calla is just as good. Or try to coerce her into giving her anal virginity early by using Calla. Or other other things that allow you treat her as she presents herself "a cheap lay." This could even play into the whole slutty Cait vs less Slutty Cait route.

 

[Quintilus]

> View attachment 3184715 "I don't know how to answer that. I built the temple for a Kaz scene. Please leave."

 

[Quintilus]

Still find it hard to believe that with her countless partners nobody ever pulled an Arona and just forced her or was inexperienced and did it by accident

Could be partially explained with 'she know how to raise pp thus have some knowledge on how to put it down (by doing the exact opposite of whatever she do for 'raise pp') -> no surprise sex for her'.

 

[Mrbark1234]

This would be fine if you could do the exact opposite. Have your character tell her dad thanks for making the best lay you've ever had and you can't wait to see if Calla is just as good. Or try to coerce her into giving her anal virginity early by using Calla. Or other other things that allow you treat her as she presents herself "a cheap lay." This could even play into the whole slutty Cait vs less Slutty Cait route

This Sounds perfect for a corrupt champ shame this game dosen't have that

 

[Wrynn13]

I don't really care about Cait paths honestly, I do know I am for certain never going to pay to have a groomer temple built though.

 

[Mrbark1234]

I don't really care about Cait paths honestly, I do know I am for certain never going to pay to have a groomer temple built though.