Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.1] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[BiffBlastcheese]

Of course you can't. They're old outdated content with even older "plans" that will never see daylight because:
a) Their author quit due to more internal drama

It's kinda depressing how it just sounds like it ended up an echochamber because they got rid of anyone they didn't like for any reason, even other writers. CoC2's reason it doesn't feel like CoC1 is because it calls itself "curated" but it's just been hijacked by Savin to pick a few people he likes while masquerading as the "anyone can contribute" vibe CoC1 had. There's so many rules to get in the way of contribution, it sounds like at some point they stopped taking contributions, and there's plenty of evidence that they get pissy and destroy content or mimic it if it turns out it's popular but didn't come from THEIR inner cabal. Even the horsecock futa thing feels like trying to chase the initial success Kasyrra had, and that's because I think people really like demon mommy who actually cares about you as a concept is all. Even if her cock ruins it for a lot of people.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

After losing interest in the game and only lurking occasionally I'd thought I'd give this new update a try. I had no expectations and I'm still disappointed. The only highlight has been avoiding tree kitsune and save editing my character to spite the anti power fantasy thing savin has going on. At least I can be negative on this forum instead of having to rein in my complaints back when I was on the official forum.

Echo Echo Echo. If u don't echo their approved opinion, you'll see ur comments or ur profile quickly deleted.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Echo Echo Echo. If u don't echo their approved opinion, you'll see ur comments or ur profile quickly deleted.

For real, if you deviate slightly and don't add a positive qualifier then either one of the hardcore fans will show up to defend the game or one of the writers or even savin will get mad and get upvotes out the ass for it. I even had Alypia get mad at me cause I dared bring up the opinion that the gods ingame are maybe evil.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Aren't the good mods like super expensive in universe? In that case it would make sense that a waitress would struggle to get them. Remember you can become a sex slave like Rhea, the maid on the 2nd planet and possibly Sera in this universe if you get too deep in debt.

Personally I found the game much more interesting when Jim was around because the team actually tried to tackle deeper topics. Once he left and everything just turned into mindless sex the game got boring.

I will say that I don't mind the concept but that would require going through TiTS and yeah, I ain't touching that.

I'm not against the idea of a trans character in these things, even if it'll likely end up coming off as out of place because, in a game where you're prone to finding transformatives and whatnot, you're bound to stumble upon someone that used the wrong thing and turned into a different gender, being, whatever. I mean, Arian from the first game could be an example.

Hell, I've mentioned before that I thought this was going to be the elf futa's shtick. Find them, raise their confidence because that's the sort of thing a champion of a Good alignment does, help them to some transformatives since the PC keeps stumbling upon the fucking things, elf gets a vagina, life continues. But then it wouldn't be a futa (or a dickgirl, I couldn't give less of a shit about the difference) and Savin would be sad so that's what the game ended up with.

I also don't know if they have a regular capable of tackling such a thing and commit to it (doubly so when it comes to preventing a certain someone from pestering them about keeping the dick), so it's probably for the best not to engage.

He has a job other than writing that he likes to boast of and is busy with that apparently

I thought they just told him to fuck off. I mean, I would've done that if it was on me.

It's kinda depressing how it just sounds like it ended up an echochamber because they got rid of anyone they didn't like for any reason, even other writers. CoC2's reason it doesn't feel like CoC1 is because it calls itself "curated" but it's just been hijacked by Savin to pick a few people he likes while masquerading as the "anyone can contribute" vibe CoC1 had. There's so many rules to get in the way of contribution, it sounds like at some point they stopped taking contributions, and there's plenty of evidence that they get pissy and destroy content or mimic it if it turns out it's popular but didn't come from THEIR inner cabal. Even the horsecock futa thing feels like trying to chase the initial success Kasyrra had, and that's because I think people really like demon mommy who actually cares about you as a concept is all. Even if her cock ruins it for a lot of people.

I kind of wonder how many submissions they get that regularly for an extended ruleset to be established. Y'know, so it makes sense and not sound like the reviewer just not wanting to work too much.

I'll refrain from commenting on Kasyrra but I only like her as plant fertilizer.

 

[Meatshield236]

Man, looking through some of the first pages of this thread, it's remarkable to me just how many predictions are right, and how many complaints are exactly the same as the ones you see now. There's so much "this is going to be a train wreck with too much futa horsecock."

 

[GS21]

I'm not very familiar with how it works but I kind of assumed the modding scene will either wait until the game is done, or close enough to where mods don't require constant updates and fixes every time they release a random nothing patch that changes the game code.


That's my worry too. They have such a hate boner for anything mod related it wouldn't surprise me if they intentionally fucked up their own code just to brick mods. I personally want to learn it just to add personal tweaks but I'm waiting for the game to finish because of that concern. It'd be nice if the engine they use could be edited like rpgmaker files or New Vegas but when I tried digging through the files, idk if it's my lack of experience with that engine and tools or if it's just that weirdly coded to prevent outside editing, but I couldn't figure anything out. Though given how going back and reading devblogs imply they don't fully understand the code either I'm thinking it may be the latter.

It's quite literally just a search-and-replace tool. They already do the funny thing where they change variables between versions, so as long as you work around them, mods are virtually futureproof. Even if you decided to work with them, fixing the issue is as simple as swapping the changed variables between versions, which can be done instantly inside any text editor.

The code is daunting at first, but the process is honestly easy to learn. I have virtually no coding experience and I've done some ambitious stuff just monkeying around with existing code.

But all in all I understand the fear, since it's not unfounded with how toxic their community is.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

It's quite literally just a search-and-replace tool. They already do the funny thing where they change variables between versions, so as long as you work around them, mods are virtually futureproof. Even if you decided to work with them, fixing the issue is as simple as swapping the changed variables between versions, which can be done instantly inside any text editor.

The code is daunting at first, but the process is honestly easy to learn. I have virtually no coding experience and I've done some ambitious stuff just monkeying around with existing code.

That's actually really encouraging to hear. I need to look into it once I have time to abandon the grind for a day or two.

But all in all I understand the fear, since it's not unfounded with how toxic their community is.

It may be my negativity and headache and this unholy heat talking but I genuinely think they'd take a torch to everything and torment their coders just to protect savin's and tobs's vision for the game.

 

[MoneyMan181]

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It was going to be worse than you think

>Implying my demon mommy would tolerate any disrespect towards me.

This guy was let on the team while Savin basically told an aspiring and earnest writer that what he made was shit btw. Unsurprising really, shitty people love surrounding themselves with other shitty people as long as they're not on the receiving end.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

It may be my negativity and headache and this unholy heat talking but I genuinely think they'd take a torch to everything and torment their coders just to protect savin's and tobs's vision for the game.

I hope they do fuck off after they release a finished build. Whether rushed or not, Savco fucking off would be this game's unironical saving grace.

 

[GS21]

>Implying my demon mommy would tolerate any disrespect towards me.

This guy was let on the team while Savin basically told an aspiring and earnest writer that what he made was shit btw. Unsurprising really, shitty people love surrounding themselves with other shitty people as long as they're not on the receiving end.

Misery really does love company. It's crazy how they can fight among themselves even inside echo chambers.

 

[M0nte]

That is all old drama.

Bubble's doesn't even write for this game anymore, and most of discord screenshots are over two years old.

Why not try getting some new material from them instead?

 

[K1ng_C00mer]

As I've said many times, I do hope to get into modding CoC II. I probably will start messing around with the code and learning the ins and outs of it, if only to familiarize myself with how it all ticks. But again, I really am just wanting to see how this ends so that I can finally get an idea of how much of a workload I'll have on my plate.

The fact is, if they do something ass backwards like Kiyoko NTR or something equally egregiously stupid, I will just say fuck this and probably write my ideas as fanfiction and post it on Ao3 rather than dedicate time and effort to uncuck the game. It's all dependent on how much work is going to be needed for it.

I am the type of person who will watch/play some pretty shitty media just because there's one character I find hot. So it would take a lot to actually make me go down that route.

Having Savin and friends on my ass wouldn't really scare me, as I'm pretty sure there's nothing they can do to stop you from modding the game legal wise. As long as you don't claim ownership of the characters, or try to sell the game yourself. Though I would like to just fly under their radar and not have to deal with them.

 

[GS21]

As I've said many times, I do hope to get into modding CoC II. I probably will start messing around with the code and learning the ins and outs of it, if only to familiarize myself with how it all ticks. But again, I really am just wanting to see how this ends so that I can finally get an idea of how much of a workload I'll have on my plate.

It's only ever as complicated as you want to make it to be. One very simple mod I have made is replacing every single instance of "Jeez", since as I was last aware, Jesus isn't one of the seven. Silly, I know, but I'm rather particular about small oversights like these.

This can be achieved by a single line of code using the patcher, since it just searches for the instance and replaces it with a string of your choice.

 

[Daddums]

It may be my negativity and headache and this unholy heat talking but I genuinely think they'd take a torch to everything and torment their coders just to protect savin's and tobs's vision for the game.

Savin already said he hates mods, if I remember right, but he's made enough money now I doubt he cares. He even bullied Kitteh into not allowing mods for Helia or Helspawn, and the forums was pretty much the only way to really advertise the mod at that time. You don't get on Fen's Second in Command's bad side there.

It's just, right now, I think they're too incompetent and that's why the modding has been so difficult. Once upon a time he said it was deliberate to make modding difficult, but now... nah, they're just the three stooges of Team Management, Writers and Coders.

 

[Jbuster]

That is all old drama.

Bubble's doesn't even write for this game anymore, and most of discord screenshots are over two years old.

Why not try getting some new material from them instead?

The cyclic nature of this forum prevent us from going forward and... Dunno, I'm not sure I wanna get exposed to their mundane, daily cringe

Besides that...

>Implying my demon mommy would tolerate any disrespect towards me.

This guy was let on the team while Savin basically told an aspiring and earnest writer that what he made was shit btw. Unsurprising really, shitty people love surrounding themselves with other shitty people as long as they're not on the receiving end.

It will never not be funny how the whole Leofric deal devolves into, "I'm telling savin mom you were mean to me"

Savin already said he hates mods, if I remember right, but he's made enough money now I doubt he cares. He even bullied Kitteh into not allowing mods for Helia or Helspawn, and the forums was pretty much the only way to really advertise the mod at that time. You don't get on Fen's Second in Command's bad side there.

It's just, right now, I think they're too incompetent and that's why the modding has been so difficult. Once upon a time he said it was deliberate to make modding difficult, but now... nah, they're just the three stooges of Team Management, Writers and Coders.

Yup, I mean there's always a chance someone there decides to do something to try and nuke it, but the mod has been available for some time without mayor issues, which is pretty cool

Maybe this is the time to add stuff and release the hopium valve

 

[Bulk Biceps]

0.8.1 Patch Notes:

• The game’s default UI has been updated by Moira. Dark Mode has been heavily revised to be more pleasing to the eyes, and there’s a new Bimbo UI that is an assault on the senses unless you REALLY like pink!
• You can now take a bath in Lumia’s palace.
• Hjorr has a new scene for the bath, as well as a new scene to Relax with her from her menu.
• You can now sic Cait on the Minotaur Miners (by MagentaNeedle).
• Kari’s futafication scene has been tweaked a lil’ to be less awkward.
• Text fixes courtesy of Spotty and Zag.
• New Bust: Eyslaine from the Colosseum!

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[CrimsonSongbird1982]

It's just, right now, I think they're too incompetent and that's why the modding has been so difficult. Once upon a time he said it was deliberate to make modding difficult, but now... nah, they're just the three stooges of Team Management, Writers and Coders.

I personally think it started out intentional but eventually got out of hand and took a life of it's own that has bit them in the ass.

I hope they do fuck off after they release a finished build. Whether rushed or not, Savco fucking off would be this game's unironical saving grace.

They probably will just to devote the rest of the team to tits since savin now controls that officially too. The only question is when a finished build will be released and I'm sure that won't be anytime soon for many reasons everyone already knows.

I bet the whole thing's a psyop to instill a horsedick fetish on an unsuspecting audience to fund big pharma's monopoly on bad dragon dildos specifically modelled after the horse from Berserk.

 

[GS21]

I personally think it started out intentional but eventually got out of hand and took a life of it's own that has bit them in the ass.


They probably will just to devote the rest of the team to tits since savin now controls that officially too. The only question is when a finished build will be released and I'm sure that won't be anytime soon for many reasons everyone already knows.

I bet the whole thing's a psyop to instill a horsedick fetish on an unsuspecting audience to fund big pharma's monopoly on bad dragon dildos specifically modelled after the horse from Berserk.

You joke about it but Fenoxo literally had an ad or sponsor or whatever tf that post was on his website for a bad dragon-esque dildo

 

[Jbuster]

You joke about it but Fenoxo literally had an ad or sponsor or whatever tf that post was on his website for a bad dragon-esque dildo

Curse my curiosity, aaaahhhh!

Spoiler: There were two lol

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0.8.1 Patch Notes:

• The game’s default UI has been updated by Moira. Dark Mode has been heavily revised to be more pleasing to the eyes, and there’s a new Bimbo UI that is an assault on the senses unless you REALLY like pink!
• You can now take a bath in Lumia’s palace.
• Hjorr has a new scene for the bath, as well as a new scene to Relax with her from her menu.
• You can now sic Cait on the Minotaur Miners (by MagentaNeedle).
• Kari’s futafication scene has been tweaked a lil’ to be less awkward.
• Text fixes courtesy of Spotty and Zag.
• New Bust: Eyslaine from the Colosseum!

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I'll totally use that pink UI while sending Caitchu to whore to the extreme

 

[Tsubuhaza]

They probably will just to devote the rest of the team to tits since savin now controls that officially too. The only question is when a finished build will be released and I'm sure that won't be anytime soon for many reasons everyone already knows.

I bet the whole thing's a psyop to instill a horsedick fetish on an unsuspecting audience to fund big pharma's monopoly on bad dragon dildos specifically modelled after the horse from Berserk.

Honestly? That's a problem for the people who care about TiTS. I ain't touching that eldritch horror unless I get bonked in the head hard enough to find that interesting.

As for the psyop, don't those usually require competence and coercion? Circlejerks (or Hiveminds, whichever you prefer) usually struggle with coercion since they're prone to just kicking people out.

I'll totally use that pink UI while sending Caitchu to whore to the extreme

Brienne Alter > Caitchu and the Caithic Combo.