Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.1] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[LandBeach]

Oh I know that they're more polite than western culture, but like you said it's played up to a ridiculously unrealistic degree. Japanese housewives don't sound like Kiyoko even in the slightest lmao. It's so shitty because if TOBS actually had any idea of what he was doing, he could've done the whole culture gap thing pretty well and make it endearing(even though I think it still wouldn't fit the rest of the game). Even something as simple as taking your shoes off when you enter someone's house could've been played up for laughs. Something like: "You people really take yours shoes off inside a person's home? But then how do you keep your feet clean? Like yeah sure you track less dirt around the house but you'd still probably have to clean it just as much to make sure your feet don't look like pieces of charcoal when you walk around."

Have the PC actually banter about these things with the Kitsune rather than taking them uber seriously in your porn game. Or Christ, take it seriously, but actually let the Champ voice their issues and do something about it like a normal person would when it comes to raising their fucking child. But no let's make Kinu bratty and bitchy to her father because that's totally what the norm is in Japan! Christ at least make this shit subtle, dude. Japanese people aren't outwardly prickly like this(or at least to this insane degree).

None of this shit even works in the first place because THEY are the foreigners in this case. They have literally 0 fucking reason to act so pompous. It's so fucking weird, man. Kitsune content feels like it's written by someone who hates Japanese culture but at the same time fetishizes it all while knowing only an extremely surface level view of it.

I would say I want to know TOBS thought process is, but we already know what it is. He's just not talented enough to bring it to fruition without severely fucking it up.

I'm not Japanese and I don't wear shoes at home. Plz no make my pc a shoe wearer at homes. I already can't decide if I simp for kitsunes and shit as that's been decided for me.

 

[NaturalEnclave]

Thread, there is something I've been thinking about something from the... psychological point of view that might actually be related to CoC2. Have you heard about the inverse lewd law? It's usually related to anime and other Japanese stuff, where a mostly pure and non-lewd character gets way more lewd fanart than an already lewd character who looks primed for that sort of artwork already. The purer the character - the more they get lewded and vise-versa.

Now, in case CoC2, it's less about the artwork and more about the reputation some characters has, as well as how well they are received by the players. Judging from this thread, people quite dislike Cait and really love Brienne. Now, while many stated plenty of good reasons why that aren't related to inverse lewd law, I still feel like maybe it's another reason. Cait's entire personality is that she is a slut, and while this might be attractive to some, the fact that she is already all about being lewd sort of makes her less appealing that say, Brienne who is much more normal and wholesome.

Point is... I wonder if some CoC2's characters would be better received if they would feel less like porn-game characters and more like regular people, who have something about them that you want to lewd, but aren't too lewd by themselves.

 

[Basty96]

Thread, there is something I've been thinking about something from the... psychological point of view that might actually be related to CoC2. Have you heard about the inverse lewd law? It's usually related to anime and other Japanese stuff, where a mostly pure and non-lewd character gets way more lewd fanart than an already lewd character who looks primed for that sort of artwork already. The purer the character - the more they get lewded and vise-versa.

Now, in case CoC2, it's less about the artwork and more about the reputation some characters has, as well as how well they are received by the players. Judging from this thread, people quite dislike Cait and really love Brienne. Now, while many stated plenty of good reasons why that aren't related to inverse lewd law, I still feel like maybe it's another reason. Cait's entire personality is that she is a slut, and while this might be attractive to some, the fact that she is already all about being lewd sort of makes her less appealing that say, Brienne who is much more normal and wholesome.

Point is... I wonder if some CoC2's characters would be better received if they would feel less like porn-game characters and more like regular people, who have something about them that you want to lewd, but aren't too lewd by themselves.

yes i would like Cait a lot more if she wasn't so slutty

 

[Raf-Raf]

Hmm, very mature.
attack a whole bunch of one person and try to troll him for such nonsense, then how are you different from Savin fanatics?
And I know that you will not even be ashamed of it, just just in case, re-read your posts about how you whined about the cult of Savin fans, and look what you have done with the posts above

I think the fact that you're taking the trolling way too seriously is a bit immature, no?
You're probably the guy that takes jokes too seriously when you don't get it.

You won't get trolled this hard if you aren't this stupid to think that you can own a fucking screenshot, you dumbass!!!


If your name is the person I know then lotsa love for that guy's GTA RP!!!
Bogg Dan, we miss you in Nopixel.

 

[undyingrevenant]

i enjoy the idea of the kitsunes its a shame they're so shittily done. maybe this is bc i enjoy being able to be a fox girl lol but i feel the den could be done well if not overrun with weird self inserts, what seems like angst fetish porn material, and shitty princess maker ripoff ideas. can't understand how this dude literally played princess maker (assumedly?) and still came up with whatever the kinu shit is. was this dude playing pm to only try and fuck the daughter? it's also a double shame because i enjoy raising sims and the crossover could be cool but it seems either way ur daughter ends up fucked in this game. why can't we be good parents to kinu?

When I first saw kiyoko I was incredibly excited from her alone because all the experiences I have with kitsunes, lewd or otherwise, from stuff like the monster girl encyclopedia, monster girl quest, kamidori alchemy meister, the yokai folk tales, ayakashibito etc, were all wonderful in some way, but the execution in coc2 is mediocre and gets steadily worse as the game progresses.

Even if someone was a fan, kiyoko and kinu have objectively fell behind multiple characters plot and kink wise, and the other kitsune are too one note or straight abrasive, like takahiro and nakano, to compete. Princess maker games were not that great to begin with, basing kinu *that* much on them was a awful plan, having so much spite around her and her creation because they got butthurt about helspawn in coc 1 is equally bad or worse.

They want to be taken seriously but also hide behind "it's a smut game lol" as a shield, so you'll have stuff like gweyr and kinus solo content, the paragraphs of den lore, cthulu mind break abyssal creatures, but then "well the numbers say we need cait to use your body as a mattress while she gets banged by others". You have writers who want to be fate stay night with more horse dongs and people who want big raccoon ladies to sit on them while a army of lizards rail them, which causes there to be people who like the lore never taken seriously, because it has plot holes or doesn't make sense, and people who want the smut reading 20 more paragraphs with literal ace attorney choice minigames or about how their children almost burnt alive.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

The thread will be cleaned and nuked anyway. Savin for his supposed "I hate F95 and their misantrophe idiots" really like to lick the mods ass off to get this thread purged

Nah, I don't think it's savin or it would only be the negative comments. Every now and again one of the mods just purges a few pages of off topic back and forth. Happens in plenty of threads especially if there's a topic that often generates drama.

 

[Daken9]

Checked out Mai's new stuff, shouldn't have.

Spoiler: Looks like There and Back Again by Bilbo Baggins, it's one singular Mai scene

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I wanna say some dialogue every now and then would have slightly improved this wall of text, but tobs doesn't know how people interact and his monologues would have just made this word dump even longer and shittier. Genuinely wonder how anyone can read all this and mantain the slightest testicular tickle, much less come out of it with him being their fave writer.

 

[undyingrevenant]

Checked out Mai's new stuff, shouldn't have.

Spoiler: Looks like There and Back Again by Bilbo Baggins, it's one singular Mai scene

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I wanna say some dialogue every now and then would have slightly improved this wall of text, but tobs doesn't know how people interact and his monologues would have just made this word dump even longer and shittier. Genuinely wonder how anyone can read all this and mantain the slightest testicular tickle, much less come out of it with him being their fave writer.

 

[Meatshield236]

Checked out Mai's new stuff, shouldn't have.

Spoiler: Looks like There and Back Again by Bilbo Baggins, it's one singular Mai scene

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I wanna say some dialogue every now and then would have slightly improved this wall of text, but tobs doesn't know how people interact and his monologues would have just made this word dump even longer and shittier. Genuinely wonder how anyone can read all this and mantain the slightest testicular tickle, much less come out of it with him being their fave writer.

...what in the goddamn overwritten hell is this? I'm no expert on erotic writing, but this... this isn't it. The question with erotic writing is always "how do I describe sexy times sexily?" And I think his response is "make everything have a deeper meaning and make that prose flowery AF." And also making your character attracted to everything, to the point where a woman could cough and your character would describe it as the sexiest cough in history in about 3 paragraphs. This is just insufferable.

 

[MoneyMan181]

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This single post has made me go unhinged enough to make a stupid shitty trollge meme. Words cannot describe the thoughts going on in my head because of this. God have mercy on my soul because TOBS certainly isn't.

 

[FurrBat]

This single post has made me go unhinged enough to make a stupid shitty trollge meme. Words cannot describe the thoughts going on in my head because of this. God have mercy on my soul because TOBS certainly isn't.
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The one point in failure in the meme or just the wishful thinking, TOBS gaining the forbidden power of self reflection ;v.
For real tho that this sentence came out of the mouth of the single most prolific purple prose writer on the team is just fucking hilarious because of the sheer irony.

 

[Meblue]

Checked out Mai's new stuff, shouldn't have.

Spoiler: Looks like There and Back Again by Bilbo Baggins, it's one singular Mai scene

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I wanna say some dialogue every now and then would have slightly improved this wall of text, but tobs doesn't know how people interact and his monologues would have just made this word dump even longer and shittier. Genuinely wonder how anyone can read all this and mantain the slightest testicular tickle, much less come out of it with him being their fave writer.

... How is anyone supposed to get off to this?

 

[liinh]

Checked out Mai's new stuff, shouldn't have.

Spoiler: Looks like There and Back Again by Bilbo Baggins, it's one singular Mai scene

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I wanna say some dialogue every now and then would have slightly improved this wall of text, but tobs doesn't know how people interact and his monologues would have just made this word dump even longer and shittier. Genuinely wonder how anyone can read all this and mantain the slightest testicular tickle, much less come out of it with him being their fave writer.

man some of the words they use for dick r just gross sounding and decidedly unsexy lol. like bro man-meat, cock-flesh, meat-pole. just call it a cock, dick, penis or something please anything is better than whatever the fuck they're calling it in these paragraphs.

 

[muschi26]

man some of the words they use for dick r just gross sounding and decidedly unsexy lol. like bro man-meat, cock-flesh, meat-pole. just call it a cock, dick, penis or something please anything is better than whatever the fuck they're calling it in these paragraphs.

Yeah, and their words for vaginas, too.

My personal pet peeve is that they always refer to every girl you have sex with a slut in every sex scene. IDK, sometimes I'm fine with it if the characters themselves say it in a dom scene, but when it's the narrator, I just don't find that kind of degradation attractive. it's not a huge turn-off, but it always stands out to me.

 

[Mandoto]

Yeah, and their words for vaginas, too.

Hasn't there been multiple cases where Tob's referred to the womb as 'baby bag'?

 

[muschi26]

Hasn't there been multiple cases where Tob's referred to the womb as 'baby bag'?

Yep, that's one of the offenders. XD

 

[Evizzy89]

alright question for all you folks
I decided I wanted to try CoC, so I went on the Fenx fourm
is there any specific CoC mod thats good?
is there any mods for CoC2 and TiTs?
Im asking the opinion of people here because I dont exactly trust the opinion of people there <.<

 

[Wrynn13]

alright question for all you folks
I decided I wanted to try CoC, so I went on the Fenx fourm
is there any specific CoC mod thats good?
is there any mods for CoC2 and TiTs?
Im asking the opinion of people here because I dont exactly trust the opinion of people there <.<

The revamp mod for CoC1 is very good, pretty much completes the game after the devs abandoned it. Used to have its own section in the Fen forums but not sure if that still exists.

 

[Meatshield236]

Yeah, and their words for vaginas, too.

My personal pet peeve is that they always refer to every girl you have sex with a slut in every sex scene. IDK, sometimes I'm fine with it if the characters themselves say it in a dom scene, but when it's the narrator, I just don't find that kind of degradation attractive. it's not a huge turn-off, but it always stands out to me.

It comes off as strangely sexually regressive. Despite being frank about it's sexuality, there's basically nobody who isn't just a normal person who has sex. There's hyper-sexual people, and then there are turbo-sluts like Cait. Now, ordinarily, you could chalk that up to porn game logic, but with the writing being so damn flowery and Tobs making every damn thing have some additional component to it, it makes me wonder if Tobs (and a few others) view sex as something you need to justify with more. This is more out there, and could just be chalked up to bad writing and poor ego control, but I do have to wonder if the writers are defensive about writing porn and try to make it 'more' to avoid the stigma they feel about it. Either way, shit writing.

 

[muschi26]

It comes off as strangely sexually regressive. Despite being frank about it's sexuality, there's basically nobody who isn't just a normal person who has sex. There's hyper-sexual people, and then there are turbo-sluts like Cait. Now, ordinarily, you could chalk that up to porn game logic, but with the writing being so damn flowery and Tobs making every damn thing have some additional component to it, it makes me wonder if Tobs (and a few others) view sex as something you need to justify with more. This is more out there, and could just be chalked up to bad writing and poor ego control, but I do have to wonder if the writers are defensive about writing porn and try to make it 'more' to avoid the stigma they feel about it. Either way, shit writing.

I mean, I've seen a lot of other games on this site which seem written with a rather… misogynistic, or even incel worldview. I imagine it must be dangerously easy for the author's views on sex and sexuality to leak out when working on a porn game.