Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.12] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Knife-wielding crab]

Damn wish we got the Kura content we so desperately needed.


Bubs retired/got employed and ghosted them. IDK about the mercs but Quin is being taken over by a community writer. I know nothing about her but anything's better than Bubs so I'm pulling for her success.


They missed the opportunity to assign the appendix an actual purpose. Remember kids, if you get your liver removed your body can't filter demon semen and it gets in your bloodstream. They really didn't have to give it an explanation, the first game did enough. Soul=regular person, too much sex with bad thing=soul pops out, no soul=bad thing. It doesn't need anything else. The demons could've easily just been a mad science/magic experiment gone wrong and that's fine. Plus I feel like they're trying to build to these wraiths being the cause of everything even in the first game.

Quins new writer also did Refnir in the corrupted lupine dungeon which I enjoyed.

 

[DesSaasu]

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Shame that this will never happen. William was too busy commissioning and talking about his characters than actually writing them. And what ever was going behind the scenes we can only speculate about.
Also holy crap the original image is HUGE...I miss the guy his stuff was my favorite even though I don't really about Futa.

Probably for the best, don't want another foxu be ruined by the current devs.

 

[oliviagalena]

My top review of this was removed without notice or reason, kinda confused.

 

[jastranger]

How far to the wayside has the gay content fallen? Seems like they've gone all in on futas and gravity-defying breasts lately.

 

[DesSaasu]

How far to the wayside has the gay content fallen? Seems like they've gone all in on futas and gravity-defying breasts lately.

Hardly been any. Last time they created one was for a cat femboy with a chastity cage that is in the temple and teasing an expansion of a demon femboy you captured from the Minos' Story Quest.

 

[miecchiyu]

why does this game have 2k pages of comments and 20 milion views?
i genuinely am curious cause the games presentation in the games catalogue is hardly inviting, with a couple of random sprites and a map.

 

[DesSaasu]

why does this game have 2k pages of comments and 20 milion views?
i genuinely am curious cause the games presentation in the games catalogue is hardly inviting, with a couple of random sprites and a map.

The controversies and drama the devs caused, and bad writing and updates.

 

[NotSomeone]

why does this game have 2k pages of comments and 20 milion views?
i genuinely am curious cause the games presentation in the games catalogue is hardly inviting, with a couple of random sprites and a map.

CoC 1 was legendary back in the Flash Coomer Era™. This one started great and went downhill, even still it's still probably the most expansive text-based adult RPG out in the wild.
That and the controversies like DesSaasu cited.

 

[Limita]

classes update when?

 

[Tsubuhaza]

why does this game have 2k pages of comments and 20 milion views?
i genuinely am curious cause the games presentation in the games catalogue is hardly inviting, with a couple of random sprites and a map.

Once upon a time, there was a game called Corruption of Champions, a labor of love that sadly was rushed to the end. Modders helped improve it down the line to the point where it became one of the most fun and, dare I say, notorious porn Flash games out there.

Years later, the same lead came out with the idea of making a sequel (aptly named Corruption of Champions 2) that was to be led by an user by the name of Savin, who had worked on Helia, one noteworthy lover the player could get.

Things started fine enough but people already had saw some red flags from the lead dev's recent history with a thing called Fall of Eden. What followed since has been an exercise in corporate cronyism, frustration, general obnoxiousness and echo chamber works.

Those echo chambers proceeded to mine most of the discussion on the game's available spots (its own forum, its own Discord), leaving this place as the final frontier. Here, where SavCo has no power, discussions have ranged throughout the years from seriousness to hilarity.

Personally, I'd only recommend it if you want a laugh or if you're really that desperate for porn that you won't mind the myriads of issues and general antagonism that some writers have with the player being anywhere near the spotlight.

 

[PixelLewd]

Years later, the same lead came out with the idea of making a sequel (aptly named Corruption of Champions 2) that was to be led by an user by the name of Savin, who had worked on Helia, one noteworthy lover the player could get.

I thought that this shitshow was entirely on Savin though? Last i remember from the very many pages and comments here is that Fen had no interest in a sequel to CoC, and that it was Savin who wanted to make a game and then asked Fen if he could use the CoC name.

But everything else is spot on far as I know.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

What even was savin's involvement in Fall of Eden? I only remember and old user named Alder being behind it.

 

[Carryon]

I haven't even played this game in years, but still come back occasionally to chuckle at the freshest drama. However, it seems there's a good spot to get my own two cents in as someone who was never very invested in either CoC or CoC II but has still played both at some point.

As in, by my own reckoning the main issue seems to be that CoC II has almost entirely forgotten the corruption aspect of its own title. In the first game, the number of named 'romancable' NPCs was significantly smaller, and frankly, always felt like the least compelling part of the experience, and the main draw was the multifaceted way in which you could interact with all the fucked up body modifications and sex mechanics with the various mob entities. And I recall the corruption in that game being actual proper, often even kind of malicious sort of corruption. I still remember that scene you got when you broke the demon aphrodisiac factory valves or whatever they were and flooded the lake with the stuff, corrupting the goddess that lived there. That was the good shit.

In CoC II, all I remember were pages and pages and fucking pages of tedious backstory on a million no-name NPCs for you to wade through, half of whom are the special snowflake blorbos of some writer or backer or another (and thus the only scenes you get with them is them being some futadom that folds you like cardboard and tops you, regardless of what your character actually is), significantly less a of focus on mob encounters and cool monster girls in favor of those no-name NPCs, and the fact that the Corruption in my Corruption of Champions is now mainly just some light kink shit if even that. The fucked up horny malice is gone, to the game's detriment.

 

[Teshay]

Damn just let me wield the cuck chair as a weapon at this point. Fortunately Agni was so nothing and uninteresting that she's still dust in my suspiciously large back pocket.


She's boring. She adds nothing in terms of gameplay and story. And in media that's arguably more heinous than being a hate sink. Or maybe B is just a boring writer, I don't seem to like or care much about any of his stuff. At least it's kinda fun to bitch about stuff made Tobs, Savin, and Bubbles.


I renamed my champion to Wallpaper as a joke. It stopped being a joke exactly two minutes afterwards.


Agni will literally be memory holed next update when the cycle restarts. I can at least admit Lyric is someone's fetish in both forms even if not mine or well written as a character, but Agni is sooooooooooo lame. The fire thing isn't even that impressive for the setting since it seems fire is the most basic ass magic. I no longer yearn for the mines. Release me.


If you're not running the whirlwind+cleave+cleave build to get through these time sink musou battles then get ready to be a bottom gamer.

HEY MAN. AGNI DOESN'T JUST WEILD FIRE MAGIC, SHE'S CAN HOLD IT IN HER HANDS AND HAS A SUPER DUPER HIGH RESISTANCE TO IT!!! THAT MEANS SHE'S SPECIAL, I GUESS...Yeah who really gives a shit?


I don't personally have any problem with combat because I have alot of perks and changes via save edit to enforce my notion as the MC. I just think it would be neat as hell for corrupted companions to get new sets to show off how they have changed. I am a very pro-corruption dude.

For every attack it just posts a random excerpt from any scene without the PC in it, and the attacks just raise your corruption and damage the rest of the party for the cringe behavior.


How dare you! That is Quinn's title you are trying to give to Agni.

Atleast Quinn actively says shit to make you dislike or want to kill him/corrupt. Agni is just there. Like I don't even hate her as a character, I just hate that she took up a slot. She's totally just another npc you can walk to in a zone for some sex then go about your business. There's nothing special about her, even in the special snowflake departments, because there are so many of them. Her art and personality aren't even that attractive. Her sex scenes are kinda boring other than her insides being really hot and something something glaze her or something.

Isn't Agnimitra a commission character? So probably the loser who commissioned her.

The fact that they allowed commision for companions but were already so harsh on people making companions shows how money focused they were.

 

[Lucky_I]

Those echo chambers proceeded to mine most of the discussion on the game's available spots (its own forum, its own Discord), leaving this place as the final frontier. Here, where SavCo has no power, discussions have ranged throughout the years from seriousness to hilarity.

 

[OreoLuma]

so, update for the knowing ones. As it turns out my submission DIDNT EVEN GO THROUGH because of an error on my end. Ive failed you trap bros (trademark pending) Im still writing and updating but the likely hood of things being approved is probably lower than if I had actually submitted it properly beforehand, not even to mention that my artist is currently unwell so I dont even have anything to publicly show after all this time

This has happened to my submissions as well. I highly recommend messaging a dev to make sure your docs actually got into the review que.

I remember waiting months when I first submitted my Clem preg doc only to find out it was never in the review que. Just to be careful I would do a double check because errors do happen and you don't want all your time and effort to be wasted.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

I thought that this shitshow was entirely on Savin though? Last i remember from the very many pages and comments here is that Fen had no interest in a sequel to CoC, and that it was Savin who wanted to make a game and then asked Fen if he could use the CoC name.

But everything else is spot on far as I know.

What even was savin's involvement in Fall of Eden? I only remember and old user named Alder being behind it.

I'm not 100% sure on either but I do think he had some involvement on FoE and that going tits up.

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Nice pic of their server.

 

[Jdzavrat]

How about more progress on the main quest rather than another uninteresting side character? I subscribed for two years before I realized that they have no intention of ever finishing this game.

 

[Teshay]

If we're talking forgettable I'd say its Atugia - 1st, Agni - 2nd, The Waspgirl - 3
The Waspgirl literally gets no love/hate from anyone here. Hell I'd give her first place, but she isn't the one that needs a whole update to make sure she exists.
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Edit: The real forgettable Companion is actually Vivienne forgot about her ass lol

I remember Vivienne because you can corrupt her by not telling her about the milk. The only pro-corruption companion we have so far. People bitch about Azyr, though, with the whole forced lesbian shit when she magically fell in love with the paladin and you get third-wheeled. That, and she has more usefulness to the champ and his barony than Agni. With her being a wisen witch and possibly one of your magical researchers with her mad science vibes. Now, if you can hire Jyrranaz, it will be a perfect combo of having evil bitches do your bidding, hidden from the world in their magic science den. I have no defense for Atugia, but I blame the devs as a whole for not giving every companion small interactions even if it was just for main quest. It's not that damn hard. They don't need a sbunch of huge reactions and interactions, just enough for them to have a presence and feel like themselves in that situation. Then give them personal quest where they can express themselves more and give them all a chance to shine and add to the overall plot.

Oh boy! Another B threesome slop focused on >You! I'm so fucking sick of this at this point, it's like Wsan with futadoms, Get another schtick! First it was Berwyn and Mathia, then Frosty and the other dragon in TiTs, then the first Agni threesome... Is it some sort of autistic obsession? Is that what this is? I just don't get why he keeps trying to push this shit when everyone is united in disliking these scenes.

Everyone's already said it better than me, but while I do agree Agni desperately needs relevance, B of course does it in the worst way possible. Her issue stems right from her backstory to begin with. She's an immortal who has had many lovers and marriages and is constantly reincarnating and moving on.

She doesn't appeal to hag lovers, because once she reincarnates she becomes young again.

She doesn't appeal to waifu lovers, because she's had gorillion past relationships and talks about them.

She doesn't really appeal to slut lovers, because while she does have >threesomes, she's not a major slut who does gangbangs or casual sex. She's supposedly enamored with >You and sees >You as her soulmate or whatever.

So who the fuck is her appeal!? Furthermore, any ounce of interesting lore we can gleam for her is null because she's got the Alzheimer's and can't remember shit except the people she's banged. Real fucking nice. There's a reason I rank her as my least favorite companion.

Yeah, Azy has Liaden the waifu stealer, but you can sort of avoid those scenes, and there's the stuff before the hivequest which are legitimately wholesome. Yeah Viv is a nothingburger, but she's got an S+ sexy design, so she's good eyecandy. And then there's Quin. Oh Quin, I love going to the temple to see you pay Rune $5 to hold her hand and telling you to leave so I can have sex with your OnlyFans gi- I mean, totally real crush!

But Agni gives me nothing to work with. She's not so bad she's memeable like Quin or Azy, she's doesn't got an attractive design like Vivianne, all she does is pop out of nowhere, descide we're star crossed lovers for no reason, and then start fucking all of my other lovers like some pest.

And the cherry ontop of the shit sundae which I will constantly harp on every single time she's brought up is, she's a fucking comission that someone paid to take an entire companion slot. Yeah, great fucking leadership, Savin!

FUCKING PREACH MY BROTHER, PREACH!!! I fuckign forgot she even has a thing for us. Like does she? Even from my spare memory it never came across as the two of us having something special. Does the new update add that? If she hinted at that before I probably skimmed over it to avoid my eyes dangerously rolling back into my sockets.

Damn cucked by my own arsenal. Can't even sacrifice those weapons to Kaly to salvage my shattered ego. This is why I NTR those weapons first by giving myself moth lady's claymore.


Damn no wonder he sold his soul for a job application.


Champion: "Wow Agni things are getting intense and the world could end, do you remember any ancient artifacts or weapons that could help defeat the overpowered final boss?"

Stupid Bird: "Look when I said remember stuff I really just meant weird, outdated sex positions and this one fire spell that's just the basic one but looks cooler. I just said all that so you'd bring me back to life."


I remember Viv exists but I keep forgetting she's a companion. Good thing the stuff outside her companion existence is good. Also I'm a simp for witches.


So Savin goes out of his way to deny maus but a hollow commission character gets priority because.......idfk. Yet another example of piss poor management from the guy who brought you [insert an example here there's too many to list]

I wonder what could possibly follow such a massive and crowd pleasing update.

BECAUSE-

Pettines and hornyness is what fuels this game, CoC2 wouldn't exist as it is in any other way


Not being memeable might be the worst sin a npc can commit in this game, I mean, even the bad, poor implemented or just plain forgettable companions got something going on

Played like a couple of times the browser version and both times I forgot her quest

Every time someone make a list of unremarkable companions she's in it but not Viviene, because people forgetting about Viviene is funny, but there's nothing funny in Agny, she's a boring Atugia if such a thing was possible

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One guy asked for that option so they won't do it because that fits his power fantasy, and we don't do that here

On a sidenote is Wolfina your champ oc? I'm like 75% sure it is but I don't quite know.

Hmm, I wonder why followers and lovers in CoC1, are universally more loved than companions in CoC2?


Oh! That'd be because you interacted with them! Sav and friends so completely misunderstood the assignment, they forgot that the player needs to actually interact with their toys for them to get to like them. Somehow, they made the static npc's back from a flash game, feel more alive compared to the party members who you have to take into battle. Truly a marvel of Savco reverse engineering.

In CoC1 you had downtime back at camp every day cycle where your options were "Go to bed early,", "Fap,", or "Maybe see about farming a sex scene with that mousegirl/boy over there." You were encouraged to spend time with and enjoy, and get the stories out of them. Not only that, but everytime you refreshed the campsite description, it was full of side details about them hanging out, and even "Gasp" interacting with each other. It made them actually feel like companions, way better than the bland stat-sticks of CoC2.

CoC2 you have to remember a companion exists, go out of your way to one of two locations you're allowed to interact with them (one of which is only accessible through a useless consumable), and they're just standing there, waiting, repeating the same bark every time. The only dynamic one was Berwyn because of his heat/sub/dom mechanic. Now what happens is sometimes when you remember to sleep (because you don't have to do that in CoC2), and only if you do it at the Frosthound, sometimes an event will happen. Mostly it's just Bri reminding you she exists, and guess what, she's the most loved companion. And given we know Savco are universally lazy, of course they aren't going to write content that "Most players won't see," (which was their original excuse for no corruption content).

They broke a perfectly good system from the first game, insist they did no such thing, and then don't do anything with it because of the flaws they introduced.

Why bother writing/scripting more complicated interactions between companions? No one's going to see them anyway. Just shove a one time scene in their faces when a commissioner ponies up the cash for it, that way the commissioner is happy, and we definitely made the NPC's deeper, right guys?

It was so obvious they were being lazy and contradictory. That's like taking away an option that would add replayablity to your game and ensure a stronger fanbase. Savin doesn't like corruption because he's lazy. Alot of others don't like it because it twist their precious oc into a cock-sleeve/pussy-muncher of the champion. Corruption requires work, it isn't something you can just lazily do (Which is what they did with Viv, but I am so corruption starved that a part of my head is settling for this even though it's clearly unsatisfactory). The corruption of Amily and Jojo was some of the hottest scenes I ever fapped to. Slowly breaking Jojo, by chasing him down, fighting him, and raping him, each lost slowly waning on his purity before finally breaking a pure-good monk merely because I wanted to fuck him and shoving his holy prayer beads up his bum? GLORIOUS. Corrupting a badass mouse girl who's survived a lot of shit until she eventually gets fixed on your own cum for her fix, god I've never felt like such a terrible person but so lacking of sperm during that moment.



I alwasy wandered why when I play other corruption game why it doesn't hit at that kink as hard. And the reason for that is that I have two plathroughs where I choose only pure stuff and I can see them develop as close friends or lovers. It's the fact that both paths exist and they become entirely different characters depending on what you choose that makes it so damn hot. And both pure and corrupt paths are fun. You couldn't corrupt the majority of those who join you but the content for the ones you do corrupt makes up for it. Corruption is the subjugation of wills. The illusion of freedom from chains of honor, duty, morals, the things that hold you back. But by breaking those chains, you simply have invited newer ones that are far more sturdy and tighter around your neck.

COC 1 corruption was peak power fantasy. Because you were the one who made the choice.

30 minute later, Post-nut offering me grand wisdom I use for shit-takes.

I vaguely remember Savin shit-talking CoC1 companions as "bubble companions" that don't interact with each other, and how CoC2 companions wouldn't be like that. Oops! The problem got worse! In CoC1 I remember like, half the camp's opinions of all the other members. CoC2? I'm not convinced your followers know anything beyond everyone else's names, if that.

Savin's idea of companion interaction: "Hey ____ what do you think of ___?" Not to mention they aren't even given reactions to alot of shit in general. The only main quest that got my idea was the one with the Murkling thing where your companions started being mind-freaked by this eldritch water thing and it was specific enough to remember Arona was my bitch and her dialogue reflected that. And that was just them interacting with the environment, not each other. Then it hints at the guy having a big ass grudge on you after you beat his ass, so he could be a future antagonist...only to resolve it with the psychic harpy chick's quest, whose name I'm not going to bother to look up. I don't understand how you can be so up your own ass when your game is worse than the original. I just want someone to give the coc 2 team the yandere dev treatment when they come up with a similar guy but it's way better and finished, showing everyone how Savin and co are bums.

Everyone hating on Quin forgets two important aspects.

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Cake

Personally i like his more twinkest look more. Made sense with the character. He looked more lithe, and I want to manhandle the fuck out of him so, that also helps with the thought without me having to hurt him too much.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I thought that this shitshow was entirely on Savin though? Last i remember from the very many pages and comments here is that Fen had no interest in a sequel to CoC, and that it was Savin who wanted to make a game and then asked Fen if he could use the CoC name.

But everything else is spot on far as I know.

Yes. CoC2 was mostly Savin's idea, but Fen is still guilty for allowing him to use CoC IP.