Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.16] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[B-52 Stratofortress]

That isn't to say you need t be as blunt as say B-52 Stratofortress or anyone else here

I try my best babe
; P

 

[B-52 Stratofortress]

damn almost forgot to snip that

It's almost like this devilaffect fella is a broken record, first he was hyperfocused on Will and now he's hyperfocused on contextual screenshots. He's dodging creating any real argument that could be a basis for healthy debate and has only come out here to start shit intentionally knowing our already negative perception of the devs and the group they surround themselves with.

Once again, to the surprise and shock of no one.

 

[MoneyMan181]

It doesn't matter who was more at fault if neither side is making the effort to be better and your sitting here just stoking the flames because you can't get over some fictional waifu from over a decade ago.

We're not the ones who wrote hundreds of thousands of words to spite some randos from 6 years ago.

You keep saying you want to bridge this gap but you have done absolutely nothing but argue and nitpick everything people have said to you besides maybe two posts. It's increasingly hard to believe you're trying to do anything in good faith because you're hardly trying to understand.

You have even gone out of your way to say that you're not even going to bother going back or searching specific terms in this forum's lifetime to try and look at serious criticism that isn't just shitting on the game. You don't want to? Fine, don't. But you haven't even once asked someone to calmly state their issues with this game and tried to find common ground. You've just been bull-headed and combative the second you started posting, even going so far as to argue about something completely fucking irrelevant with Larian Studios and Divinity Original Sin. Hell, even your stupid argument about who's right on the Will situation is mostly irrelevant when it comes to this game.

You have not offered a solution, you have not offered to listen to people's issues with the game, and the most you're willing to concede is "Both sides are shitty" and proceed to argue some more. As if that solves fucking anything. Have fun arguing, because you're sure as hell not bringing about any meaningful change with the way you're acting.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I literally just clarified that a not insignificant portion of the audience experienced the fallout of other people's actions. I'm not lumping them together and I fully understand if those people are frustrated. Would you be frustrated if there was 50 pages of your name being mentioned, mostly in a negative manner, on a single thread. It sure as shit ain't gonna get better without some effort on both sides.

What point are you even trying to prove? It doesn't matter who was more at fault if neither side is making the effort to be better and your sitting here just stoking the flames because you can't get over some fictional waifu from over a decade ago. What do you have to lose by allowing everybody on all sides some level of grace for shit that has spanned over a decade. It's not that hard to just admit that it was fucking dumb on all sides and got blown out of proportion.

Both sides my ass, you fuckface keep pinning all the blame on the players, while coming up with tons of excuses to defend Savin&CO. Go preach that shit to your beloved Savin and his bootlickers. They are the ones coming up with and writing spite projects, not us.

God, imagine if Tolkien, instead of writing Lord Of The Rings, spent years of his life writing entire novels about absolutely random people who looked at him funny. For no objective reason, just to spite them libs haters.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I will go down in history as a legend. At first, I mainly just wanted to mess with them, but I thought maybe if I just spam comments and annoy them I will get something, and so I kept at it dedication is key and well here we are I got what I wanted, and now I am a legend immortalised like Rome.

I'm still confused on how anyone thought that was going to be some type of own. Make a character based off someone out of spite. But don't use their actual name. Somehow forget the fact that the game has a character creator. Giving the person who you're trying to spite. The ability to just make a character with their name. And get the harem. Making the entire thing moot.

And throughout the entire process of thinking, writing, proof reading, coding, whatever else. Nobody stopped to say.... this is dumb.

 

[PixelLewd]

I'm still confused on how anyone thought that was going to be some type of own. Make a character based off someone out of spite. But don't use their actual name. Somehow forget the fact that the game has a character creator. Giving the person who you're trying to spite. The ability to just make a character with their name. And get the harem. Making the entire thing moot.

And throughout the entire process of thinking, writing, proof reading, coding, whatever else. Nobody stopped to say.... this is dumb.

If any of the involved parties were smart, we wouldn't be where we are now would we?

 

[YouShallNotLol]

So, I'm still rocking the Flame Dagger and replaced the starting Harp with a Fox Jewel in Act 2. What can I replace the Flame Dagger with as a Charmer? I'm only putting my stats into presence, agility, and cunning. I can't equip the Sanctified Gladius cus I haven't bothered lowering the corruption from chugging items to build up the chara's cum cannon.

What's the problem with lowering the corruption? If you're lazy to do it legitimate way, just save edit it back to zero.

 

[Biostar]

Would you be frustrated if there was 50 pages of your name being mentioned, mostly in a negative manner, on a single thread.

Considering it would be because of my own actions, my feelings wouldn't matter. You don't get to do shitty things and then expect people to give you "grace" just because. They have no regrets so fuck them.

It doesn't matter who was more at fault

You've spent all this time trying to place the impetus on the people "bothering" Savin over this issue and framing the devs actions to spite them as a justifiable reaction to it. You've failed to show you leveling the same demand to them so you obvious have a bias toward them. You've pretty much admitted to that already. Don't pretend you suddenly don't think that matters.

 

[cannon9009]

I will go down in history as a legend. At first, I mainly just wanted to mess with them, but I thought maybe if I just spam comments and annoy them I will get something, and so I kept at it dedication is key and well here we are I got what I wanted, and now I am a legend immortalised like Rome.

Man, I've had some glorious moments on this site, like the one time I annoyed BallsDeepWeep so much I got immortalized in stone on their twitter account (which is probably still on my post history, somewhere around there...).

But this? This is a whole other fucking level. I wish I could have this level of notoriety. My hat goes off to you, man. I wish I could put the time into this game but it's fun to just sit here and watch this shitshow. If I actually had any knowledge of its history I might even chime in a bit. But all of this is fucking golden. The circus is clearly in town and we're aaaaall laughing.

 

[Yeppers34]

I will go down in history as a legend. At first, I mainly just wanted to mess with them, but I thought maybe if I just spam comments and annoy them I will get something, and so I kept at it dedication is key and well here we are I got what I wanted, and now I am a legend immortalised like Rome.

Honestly respect, I wish I had the tenacity to be such a nuisance, that I could annoy the developers enough to add the ability for the PC to impregnate Ryn...but alas I'm just not built that way.

 

[procrastinator101]

Honestly respect, I wish I had the tenacity to be such a nuisance, that I could annoy the developers enough to add the ability for the PC to impregnate Ryn...but alas I'm just not built that way.

Do it until they add a catfolk named Yehp Pers, with the Etheryn impreg scene being your PC doing the deed while the catfolk watches from the cuck chair.

 

[Bleh21]

My guy tried to paragraph wall me into quitting................. and he's paragraph walling other people while typing to me aswell. Well you got me, i ain't responding to all that. I like Larian and it irks me that they are being compared to utter mediocrity but you clearly got more time to spend then me.

 

[Pandect]

so to answer you're question no he does not talk to the devs the same he talks to literally everyone else. Since he was so kind as to tell us his username on the forums I went ahead and looked him up.
View attachment 4489208 went back through ten pages all the way to 2017. he has never once called the devs shitty people or even disagreed with them on anything. he has done a lot of bootlicking over there though, I'm sure they apprieciate that.

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this one really caught my eye. seems relevent right about now.

Before it started this shitflinging, it had literally one other post I could find; it's pretty obvious it's just here to start problems.

 

[Runa Mirabelle]

In any case, there is no doubt that Fen and his team are no longer worthy of any trust from supporters.

 

[Alterism]

Franks literally wrote a character just to piss people off.

Hmm...

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Wait Franks was vocal about why he quit? I always thought it was because of

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reception. Or were there other reasons?

From how he spoke on it, they kept kicking and reinviting him into the writers channel and finagling with his permissions. On top of a string of passive aggressive comments about his characters. When he quit he stated that his characters were open season for anybody who wanted to do anything with them.

 

[GokutheG]

Hmm...

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From how he spoke on it, they kept kicking and reinviting him into the writers channel and finagling with his permissions. On top of a string of passive aggressive comments about his characters. When he quit he stated that his characters were open season for anybody who wanted to do anything with them.

Jeez the more background information you share the more obvious it becomes that the people in charge of these games haven't matured past highschool.

 

[Jstar18H]

I'm looking forward to Meridyx (Me-ride-dicks is a diabolical name) being a Follower, Jstar got me hyped asf.

Funnily enough, the inspiration was "Marry-dicks" or "Marry" for short.

 

[Jooj Cena]

Man, when did it get more fun complaining about the game on forums than playing the game?

 

[MarvintheBee]

Funnily enough, the inspiration was "Marry-dicks" or "Marry" for short.

Meridyx marriage when?
I will put on a ring on that imp and if I have to pull her infront of Sanders, idc.

 

[devilaffect]

-snip-

You quoted a unrelated post, so pardon my confusion. After multiple threads covering the whole Berwyn expansion, I was just fed up with trying to explain that Hugs broke the rules for maintaining a companion. So yes, I said that out of frustration. Could I have phrased it better? Yes. But at that point B was handling Berwyn, Hugs was no longer writing for the game, and no amount of asking the same question a thousand times was going to change that. By no means do I hate Hugs and I rather enjoyed his work, but I can't pretend that he didn't know what he was signing up for. I am perfectly fine with you taking umbrage with my behavior. I'm not going to hide it or pretend like I didn't say it. Hell, I'm pretty sure I was a lot more of an asshole on the old forums. But as long as nobody is able to produce Hugs' outline for Berwyn or something proving that B wasn't being truthful, I have to stand behind that sentiment that it just doesn't matter anymore. I was also somewhat pissed off because at the time it felt like Hugs was using his mental health struggles as a shield.

-snip-

I have repeatedly acknowledged that the vast majority of people affected by Tobs weren't the cause of his spite in the first place. I'm asking you to consider the fact this has been a back and forth issue. My absolute take is that Tobs is almost entirely in the wrong for starting the drama, but people are discounting just how much of an effect having a large group of people incessantly hating them can prolong it and cause it to fester. Yes, the devs have many, many faults. As do we all. It's easy to sit here as a collective and feel vindicated that there's a group of likeminded individuals who feel slighted in the same way and shit all over them. But a group of faceless people coming at you is a lot scarier than any one writer just being an outright asshole.

Yeah, the divinity shit, which I didn't even bring into the conversation, was weird and so was the therapy. But I also can't engage with people and point out where I think they are wrong if I ignore parts of their arguments. I literally got called out for ignoring parts of somebody's post when it was mostly insults. Also, I did start to actually have a productive conversation about what constitutes real, actionable criticism and how I would be happy to help people flesh their ideas out that got derailed.

I would disagree that the Will situation has no relevancy. If one of the main issues is how the devs are all pieces of shit, then I think us getting to the point to where we can at least agree on whether we have enough evidence to actually come to a conclusion for any individual instance is a worthwhile goal.

And yes, both sides are shitty. I have been falsely accused of being a bot and insulted regularly for disagreeing with some of the people here. So how should I be acting? Because I have acknowledged that the Bubs situation was at least more complicated that I realized and would like to see more. I am open to it being proven that B has been lying. I am open to it being proven that the devs as a whole have been abusive to Will and that the Balak screenshot isn't just a one-off of him being frustrated for this being a repeated issue. I have admitted that people who didn't deserve to be insulted were insulted by Tobs. So where does it end? At what point do I stop making concessions because from my point of view the only person who actually attempted to have a meaningful conversation was dolosolo.

Also, the argument that I'm not going after the devs doesn't make any sense. They aren't here and apparently haven't been here for awhile. How am I going to have a conversation with somebody who isn't here? I would however be perfectly open to discussing the merit of my issues with the games, even if I think they aren't quite as extreme as some of the others here.