it's not a AAA studio where they can just crap out a whole game in a year or two, and sometimes the devs don't want to work on one project for over 6 years. But patreon really makes them lazy to an extent, "just release a bare minimum update for next month so people still donate" Rinse and Repeat for 4 years and move on because both the creator and fans are burnt out from all the micro updates.
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I would love for some content to be written about Kasyrra corrupting kiyoko and turning her into a kitsubbus or something and then gives the amulet back to us and kiyoko that holds a twisted love for the MC. Like a choice when between freeing Kiyoko or giving the amulet to Kasyrra instead.
That's not true. Not all AAA games are like that. A lot of them are actually pretty good.
devilaffect
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To be fair, they aren't all religious prostitutes as Cait mentions that there are also poets and artists in temples. Then there's also the scientist Darius who doesn't whore himself out and Amina who just dances. So it's probably safe to assume there's some degree of separation between the functions of each temple. Still a bit gross for it to be in close proximity though.
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On a smaller scale, yeah. The games here (far as I've seen, which isn't a lot) usually have very small teams, close to an one-man operation and all which really doesn't help but it's understandable.
As for CoC2, I find it to be more unsatisfying than bad but the game has improved with some of the newer stuff. The hard part is going through most of that before finding the better bits.
I did just find out funding her temple is basically funding a whorehouse with financial kickbacks. And people have talked about her grooming religion in the past, kinda why her bit of telling Brienne she'd help with her kids can be rather problematic.
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It was actually brought up on the forums and Savin got defensive saying that the temple doesn't groom kids to be prostitutes despite the fact that's literally what happens in Cait's backstory.
Can you quote that? I'm fairly sure cait has dialogue explicitly saying children were kept away from the sex side of things until they were adults. Of all the things you can point to in all these games, underage content isn't one of them outside of some mods for CoC1.
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They're pushed to be prostitutes if they don't want to leave their family. Isn't that why she had to sneak about taking her prostitute vows so she could go adventuring with her dad.
It's like pre retcon Treatment. Women were expected to take it and turn into a mindless bimbo if she wanted to stay with her family.
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I can't say with certainty, her content doesn't really interest me so I've only read most of it once and a while ago at that, but I think she was being set up to enter the leadership structure of the temple she learned at and delayed that to go adventuring. She's still considered a priestess though and presumably took the relevant vows since she's recognised at various points as a valid missionary.
Oh hey. It's been almost two years since we've bounced back here.
For us, I'd say that's a new record
What is the problem with this or Treatment? Can't writers just go to the logical conclusion and make player choose to be either a villain or a good guy?
Why does you MC act like a blushing maiden when Hana proposes to you?
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I'm not sure any writer would do it, for that, it would require anyone on that team to recognize that what happens in Mallach temples is in any way wrong and I doubt they would do that, and then, they would need to give the player a choice to either push Cait against her faith, once again, doubtful, or let her embrace it, which you do with the temple quest, to get more content
Thing is they have put so much background behind Cait and her faith as something normal despite how shifty it is, that I don't think any of them will ever think, "yeah maybe this doesn't work, maybe putting all those details about Cait doing sex stuff with her whole family full of harlots isn't really a great idea, maybe mentioning that she wasn't an adult before leaving the temple wasn't a smart thing to do either, maybe, maybe the whole deal about the rental wombs with kids being rejected and then repurposed for another job (the dancer and her brother) and Cait's sister wanting to leave and that being a problem because her faith pretty much demands her to be a whore is pretty much what the main evil enemy of this game would do, pretty demonic stuff if you ask me"
And brother, they'll never do that
One day you'll get to tackle those issues when and if, someone makes a mod, till then it's Savin's party, and we are only guests
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Convocation of Mirrors did establish that the Seven weren't wholly benevolent beings, but inhabit a far more grey area of morality due to their origins. I think it stands to reason that at least some of the Seven and their followers should be involved in questionable activities. Grooming probably wasn't a good choice without finding a way to establish it as being outside of the norms for Mallach's followers and working that into character growth for Cait. Though it does help bring into question the dichotomy between the Demons and the Divine in combination with how Kassyra's motivations have played out.
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Honestly settings with "gods" are very underwhelming. If they are present why don't they help when a big threat comes along? The Seven are much worse since they were originally abominations that wanted to destroy the world but now just want to control it. They aren't much better than demons and in some ways could be considered worse. They could stop the "corruption" that happens but they do nothing. Let's not forget one is the founder of a groomer cult and the other created a race that'll rape you if they're hungry. How exactly are they better than demons?
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Yeah, they do tend to be boring since there's not a lot you can do with them outside of exploring grey morality. Which is why I brought Kassyra up since she's the closest thing we have to a foil to the Seven and that seems to be what they are going for. Even if you break up the groups that are supposed to be morally opposed you do have some level right vs wrong within factions when you compare Kassyra to Tollus or Lumia to Mallach/Nareva.
I would agree a large portion of the Seven are morally dubious at best, but that could be by design for the game as a whole and when you look at the more narratively focused content like Convocation of Mirrors, Dog Days, or Den of Foxes it reinforces the idea that it's probably on purpose. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but it's present in a lot of the content where fucking isn't the main focus.
Wasn't it hinted by Mallach and Kasyrra's speech that the only reason they letting Kasyrra do her shtick is so they can steal her soul research? like yeah you're corrupting thousands, armed a crazy cultist like Tollus with a shitton of power, nearly tore reality appart with your science project and summoned Wraiths again and throwing the world into BDMS chaos, BUT!
I wanna see if I can have a soul and still be a God so just note down whatever interesting shit you find before we come in, kill you and steal your research.