Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.16] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Bluebird42]

First off, I am suprised you are here considering the back and forth feces flailing happening between these two communities. I do hope this does not squandre your chances of getting your work in, especially with neporism comment (it did not Knife, so probably fine on your end.)

Though, if I may ask, what submission?

Second, Since you are here, how's work on Quin going? Knife did say that you are working on Quinn's anal expansion, and while I am more then in love with the concept, it does go far off the beaten path for him considering Bubblelord was adament on him being a strict top. What made you decide to give him one, especially one that, by the sounds of it, leans into stuff like anal training and maybe making him a buttslut? Wider community sentiment that he needs one, just somethin you are into, mixture of both or something else?

There are pros and cons to both communities - no offense.

The most prominent of my submissions that has been languishing is Quin's base set rework + new set that've been sorta sitting around since April of Last year.

Quin's going good! I've got his dad!expansion roughly half done, and his buttslut expac is up after that. Since Bubbles is no longer on the team, and I've been around for so long and have proven to submit quality work, Quin as a companion has been passed to me. Giving him a buttslut arc is partly because I love pegging men, and partly because since men in the game are on the rarer side, I don't think it's fair to have one of the only two male companions be strictly a top.

That being said, right now I'm working on writing Refnir and the DriderNest expansion, so it'll be a little bit longer before I can turn my focus back to Quin.

I've seen your name tag before on the forums, a year or 2 ago I think. Checks out tho, you didn't kiss enough balls to get considered, eh?
Ruff stuff, amazing how they treat their "fans."

I've been part of the community for roughly five-ish years. It depends on the submission content in question. Some get in almost immediately, like the PC hellhound pregnancy I wrote for Mayternity 2024, others, like my Quin stuff, languish for a lot longer. It sorta depends on what kind of content is currently in demand. It is what it is and I'm not really upset about it anymore.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Well Rooster Teeth actually died and then had it's corpse bought out by Viz Media. So now volume 10 is apparently in the works, but considering none of the people who worked on RWBY got replaced, it's still probably going to be a total shitshow that ends stupidly.

RWBY was a really great series of concept albums

It can only be saved by rebooting it and tossing out the original writers who flanderized the characters and wrote themselves into a corner. In my ideal world it would be turned into a series of character action games like NIER Automata.

Giving him a buttslut arc is partly because I love pegging men

the DriderNest expansion

I've seen this mentioned a few times but I don't know what it is. Is it a new dungeon or a place for drider characters to be added and to move the two preexisting ones to? I may have arachnophobia but I believe in fluffy spider women supremacy.

 

[Bluebird42]

I've seen this mentioned a few times but I don't know what it is. Is it a new dungeon or a place for drider characters to be added and to move the two preexisting ones to? I may have arachnophobia but I believe in fluffy spider women supremacy.

DriderNest is a new home location for the two current driders to move to and new ones to be added to. It involves a small quest to introduce Ihzalti to the Drider Queen, and also adds two new driders to the game: Miro (Ihzalti's brother, a sexable cuntboy), and Lilith, a weaver who you can buy new clothing items from. It's currently sitting at about 16k words and is roughly about half done.

Funny story about it! I actually commed it from Bubbles when he was still around, but he left before it was completed, same as with his fem!Hirrud com. When it became clear he wasn't coming back, I decided to just write it myself.

 

[DuckTheMuck]

same as with his fem!Hirrud com

Any chance you have the unfinished doc to share?

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[Bluebird42]

I don't, but Garde wrote a bimbo Hirrud expac that's sitting somewhere in the code que, so it's still something that'll come to the game eventually.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Well Rooster Teeth actually died and then had it's corpse bought out by Viz Media. So now volume 10 is apparently in the works, but considering none of the people who worked on RWBY got replaced, it's still probably going to be a total shitshow that ends stupidly.

Even though Salem has all of the relics and has apparently pushed everyone to Vacuo (Beacon and Vale got destroyed offscreen. I'm not fucking joking. Look up the volume 9 epilogue animatic that was half finished before Rooster Teeth croaked.) I'm sure RWBY will pull some bullshit out of their ass that either reforms Salem or traps her in the zone of silence or whatever. And Cinder will probably be a good girl now and everyone will just dance around singing praises to Ruby.

I really only kept watching RWBY past volume 5 out of wanting to watch a trainwreck and laughing at the fact they seriously did this plot thread or had that scene and thought it was good to release. Volume 8 was the point I knew RWBY was well and truly fucked.

Yang is a hateful bitch who mistreats her own sister and screams at everyone while just having googly eyes for Blake, who likewise just exists to be Yang's crush. It would be funny if it's pointed out she's literally turned into Raven, but the writers obviously aren't self aware to realize that. Ruby is a useless idiot who constantly makes the wrong choices but justifies it with "We're the heroes!". Team JNR is irrelevant as always. They made Qrow a totally dumbass who teams up with an acutal serial killer in a fight and is shocked when he's betrayed. Ironwood a paranoid maniac. They brought back Penny and made her a real girl only to kill her immediatly. The election subplot that was totally a gripping commentary about the 2016 U.S. election and not as subtle as an atom bomb.

Thankfully, my based queen Weiss's only sin is that she was irrelevant in the story that's meant to delve into her own country and her relationships with her family, and the fact she was jobbing hard the entire volume. Which is the least egregious out of all the rest of the cast. And yes, I would do her, Winter, and their mother Willow all at the same time.

Thats...a lot lore, but it wasted on me. I've killed my interest for it, the osts are certified bangers tho. No idea where they found her but the voice on her is amazing.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

There are pros and cons to both communities - no offense.

There's cons to us?! Gasp, I'm offended, who isn't getting their ass kissed? Tell them they'll have to ask nicely and to present with cheeks spread, remind them to pucker up.

Quin's going good! I've got his dad!expansion roughly half done, and his buttslut expac is up after that. Since Bubbles is no longer on the team, and I've been around for so long and have proven to submit quality work, Quin as a companion has been passed to me. Giving him a buttslut arc is partly because I love pegging men, and partly because since men in the game are on the rarer side, I don't think it's fair to have one of the only two male companions be strictly a top.

Seems that I have horse in this race, gud luck to you tho. Revitalizing Quin is gonna suck for you. Unless your just going to focus on your fetish, if so, you'll do fine.

I've been part of the community for roughly five-ish years. It depends on the submission content in question. Some get in almost immediately, like the PC hellhound pregnancy I wrote for Mayternity 2024, others, like my Quin stuff, languish for a lot longer. It sorta depends on what kind of content is currently in demand. It is what it is and I'm not really upset about it anymore.

Mhmm, depends on if it fits the current need. While tht approach is very easy to abuse as "content update," makes when your stretching things out. Tho the Quin stuff might just be because the bubs ain't exactly loved and Quin isn't a propriety. I hope for the best for yah.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

like the PC hellhound pregnancy I wrote for Mayternity 2024

You don't say.... well!


As this threads residential half-lupin addict connoisseur. I come with greetings to anyone who gives me content with my girls. Especially when it come to slinging the ol baby gravy. And Karithea happened to be one of my favs.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Any chance you have the unfinished doc to share?

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Did not exprct to see that, wonder if we could get Hired Gun to reverse psychology they ass again to make this happen?

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I come with greetings to anyone who gives me content with my girls. Especially when it come to slinging the ol baby gravy. And Karithea happened to be one of my favs.

Any reason to shoot up the club with the ol' DNA rifle, is gud reason enough.
How many addictions are we on now? Dragussy, Horse-talk, wolfgirls, how many do you need?

 

[Bluebird42]

Seems that I have horse in this race, gud luck to you tho. Revitalizing Quin is gonna suck for you. Unless your just going to focus on your fetish, if so, you'll do fine.

Mhmm, depends on if it fits the current need. While tht approach is very easy to abuse as "content update," makes when your stretching things out. Tho the Quin stuff might just be because the bubs ain't exactly loved and Quin isn't a propriety. I hope for the best for yah.

My Frost Wyvern encounter got in super quick because the Windy Peaks doesn't have a huuuge amount of content right now, but other things that I have waiting, like the several transformatives that are waiting, aren't in super high demand (even though it's a tf game).

I knew going into adopting him that it was going to be an uphill battle, so I'm prepared for it. There are more people that hate Quin than like him, including a lot of the devs, and since I won't turn him into a girl that drops his priority list by a lot.

 

[M0nte]

There are pros and cons to both communities - no offense.

The most prominent of my submissions that has been languishing is Quin's base set rework + new set that've been sorta sitting around since April of Last year.

Quin's going good! I've got his dad!expansion roughly half done, and his buttslut expac is up after that. Since Bubbles is no longer on the team, and I've been around for so long and have proven to submit quality work, Quin as a companion has been passed to me. Giving him a buttslut arc is partly because I love pegging men, and partly because since men in the game are on the rarer side, I don't think it's fair to have one of the only two male companions be strictly a top.

That being said, right now I'm working on writing Refnir and the DriderNest expansion, so it'll be a little bit longer before I can turn my focus back to Quin.

Good to know that you are doing the bottoming content cause you are into it.
I like to joke that he is one good dicking away from getting on some people's more favorable side. It always was weird how he was the only companion without the option to do so.

Also, question about Refnir. While he is not my thing (a hardcore, asshole male dom), how will his genderbend form even work? Is he going to be genderbend? Will he be a cis female, still a guy or a futa/dickgirl? Or will he even be accounted for in gednerbend route? I am asking cause you seem to have a lot of unpaind labour in front of you.

My Frost Wyvern encounter got in super quick because the Windy Peaks doesn't have a huuuge amount of content right now, but other things that I have waiting, like the several transformatives that are waiting, aren't in super high demand (even though it's a tf game).

I knew going into adopting him that it was going to be an uphill battle, so I'm prepared for it. There are more people that hate Quin than like him, including a lot of the devs, and since I won't turn him into a girl that drops his priority list by a lot.

Well, I have my fair share grievences with the bunny boy and how he was handled (strangly homophobic in a fratboy sort of way, to willing to throw his magic around that is ostensibly ruffying someone, to many backgrounds and so on), but I do not think he would have gotten so much vitriol if his writer was less of a known quantity among the fandom.

And while I do feel bad how I and others have refered to him half of the time, I do think that Quin being tied to all the meta baggage suronding Bubblelord does him no good. Which why, I assume, the developers also dislike him.

So, I would suggest that whenever his expansion come, that you, Savin or whoever is responsible for patch notes, emphesize that he has entierly new writer(you) and that you are seemingly trying to give him a rebrand. While it did not quite work for Berwyn, I do think that it could work here since you do not seem trying to reinvent Quinn to much, just ironing out his kinks. Not trying to give him a different niche, rather expanding on the current one.

It would be a shame if vitriol people have for the former writer prevented them from enjoying the content you wrote.

 

[Bluebird42]

Good to know that you are doing the bottoming content cause you are into it.
I like to joke that he is one good dicking away from getting on some people's more favorable side. It always was weird how he was the only companion without the option to do so.

Also, question about Refnir. While he is not my thing (a hardcore, asshole male dom), how will his genderbend form even work? Is he going to be genderbend? Will he be a cis female, still a guy or a futa/dickgirl? Or will he even be accounted for in gednerbend route? I am asking cause you seem to have a lot of unpaind labour in front of you.


Well, I have my fair share grievences with the bunny boy and how he was handled (strangly homophobic in a fratboy sort of way, to willing to throw his magic around that is ostensibly ruffying someone, to many backgrounds and so on), but I do not think he would have gotten as much vitriol if his writer was less of a known quantity among the fandom.
And while I do feel bad how I and others have refered to him half of the time, I do think that Quin being tied to all the meta baggage suronding Bubblelord does him no good. Which why, I assume, the developers also dislike him.

So, I would suggest that whenever his expansion come, that you, Savin or whoever is responsible for patch notes, emphesize that he has entierly new writer(you) and that you are seemingly trying to give him a rebrand. While it did not quite work for Berwyn, I do think that it could work here since you do not seem trying to reinvent Quinn to much, just ironing out his kinks.

It would be a shame if vitriol people have for the former writer prevented them from enjoying the content you wrote.

Refnir has a dom/sub switch and can be collared. So he can be an asshole, misogynistic dom that can later collar you OR, if dom breaking is your thing, you can turn him into a submissive and collar him to have a good boy. You can also turn him into a her with the genderbent route (same dom/sub paths), but she is a dickgirl. This is because I'm personally not a huge fan of writing NPC vagina. That being said, I put out an offer in the discord that if anyone wanted to sponser it and commission me to write the option for a submissive fem!Refnir to be dedicked, I would write it, but no one took me up on it.

Regarding Quin, I went through and rewrote a LOT of his talks. He no longer oversexualizes the companions and has actual thoughts about them as people, he doesn't use his magic on random bystanders, and he actually talks to you (the person who saved him) about himself and trusts in you outright much more.

Also as a side note for Berwyn: he was Hugs' self insert. The only plan Hugs had for him was to make him a depressed, bipolar shut-in. If B hadn't taken him and finished him, Savin was just gonna full throttle make him a dickgirl with no other option. The whole situation sucked, but I'm glad we got what we did instead of what could have been.

 

[PixelLewd]

I see RWBY got brought up( and Darling in the FRANXX( Zero Two and Klaxo Princess are goated)). Imo, much like some of you said, RWBY started of great but quickly spiraled after Monty's passing( may he rest in peace); but if there's ONE singular thing I can say to have come to like from the mess they made, it was Ruby's breakdown and the memes it spawned

Spoiler: Ruby no! You can't be hating on the gheys!

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[CrimsonSongbird1982]

like the several transformatives that are waiting, aren't in super high demand (even though it's a tf game).

Me when the tf game delays tf's:
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Will we finally have the coveted capybara transformation?

I knew going into adopting him that it was going to be an uphill battle, so I'm prepared for it. There are more people that hate Quin than like him, including a lot of the devs, and since I won't turn him into a girl that drops his priority list by a lot.

Damn Quin can't get any love from the devs even. Guess I see why since he doesn't fit into any of their fetishes but it makes me wonder why they greenlit him then or if the hate came after. Can't say I'm not sad to hear we won't be able to playboyify the bunny but at least someone's fetish is getting expanded on. Any plans to alter the cult angle of his backstory to make him look more sympathetic or is past writing set in stone/too much excess work for a companion type character? Out of the issues with his character I've always found it silly how he didn't know the cult is super evil. You've definitely got your work cut out for you given the base Bubble left but I wish you luck.

Regarding Quin, I went through and rewrote a LOT of his talks. He no longer oversexualizes the companions and has actual thoughts about them as people, he doesn't use his magic on random bystanders, and he actually talks to you (the person who saved him) about himself and trusts in you outright much more.

This alone gives me actual hope for him as a character even if he doesn't cater to my fetishes. Feels weird being positive after coming off so much more negative these last few pages but what I've read from you so far makes me optimistic.

like Tobs with the kitsune stuff, though I'm not sure if his reviewed stuff has to be looked at by a second dev ever since he got his ass reemed for passing a submission that didn't meet standards and getting his review permissions essentially revoked.

That's the first I've heard of this. Any interesting tea if you feel comfortable sharing?

DriderNest is a new home location for the two current driders to move to and new ones to be added to. It involves a small quest to introduce Ihzalti to the Drider Queen, and also adds two new driders to the game: Miro (Ihzalti's brother, a sexable cuntboy), and Lilith, a weaver who you can buy new clothing items from. It's currently sitting at about 16k words and is roughly about half done.

The driders were about the only thing of bubble's that I liked so I'm actually really stoked at the idea of them getting an expansion. The fluffy army must grow.

it was Ruby's breakdown and the memes it spawned

Homophobic Ruby was even funnier considering the arguably most popular Ruby ship was with Weiss. Ruby just mad she can't get a gf cause her sister inherited their dad's rizz and not her.

 

[Yeppers34]

Honestly in terms of RWBY I thought the Ever After arc wasn't that bad, the worst part about it was the whole yang and blake stuff, it just felt forced and only served to please the absolute rabid and deranged shippers.

 

[Bluebird42]

Me when the tf game delays tf's:
Will we finally have the coveted capybara transformation?


Damn Quin can't get any love from the devs even. Guess I see why since he doesn't fit into any of their fetishes but it makes me wonder why they greenlit him then or if the hate came after. Can't say I'm not sad to hear we won't be able to playboyify the bunny but at least someone's fetish is getting expanded on. Any plans to alter the cult angle of his backstory to make him look more sympathetic or is past writing set in stone/too much excess work for a companion type character? Out of the issues with his character I've always found it silly how he didn't know the cult is super evil. You've definitely got your work cut out for you given the base Bubble left but I wish you luck.


This alone gives me actual hope for him as a character even if he doesn't cater to my fetishes. Feels weird being positive after coming off so much more negative these last few pages but what I've read from you so far makes me optimistic.


That's the first I've heard of this. Any interesting tea if you feel comfortable sharing?

I wrote tfs for: being a crow monfolk (for male pcs who want to be birds! This one is actually approved and waiting to be coded), a hellhound tf, a wyvern tf, and some adjustments to the demon tf that make it so you can be a hooved, more draenei-like demon. I've been requested recently to make one for kobolds, so I'll be writing one for that soon as well! A dear friend of mine has tfs for mecians and squirrels in the que as well! I don't see why I can't add a chubby capybara tf to my list, but I can't promise anything!

The cult angle has been reworked, yes! Hopefully now his backstory and how he came to join the cult will garner him much more sympathy as someone who was trying to help out a close friend of his from falling into a bad crowd and getting pulled into himself, and is just trying to do better. I'm also hoping that I can make him more of a bro/wingman character for those that aren't into his sex/group content, since I've been reading that Brint's fulfilment of that roll is falling flat with this section of game audience.

As for ToBs, the most I can say is that he approved and passed a submission that was so subpar it basically had to almost be rewritten properly (which is crazy, because he is known as the harshest reviewer. I can only assume it's because it was from an avid kitsune fan and for a kitsune that had been in limbo). Ever since, he's basically disappeared from Discord and has even dropped down to part time. He used to do a lot of the review work, so having his review privileges revoked has slowed down the community review process tremendously.

 

[M0nte]

Refnir has a dom/sub switch and can be collared. So he can be an asshole, misogynistic dom that can later collar you OR, if dom breaking is your thing, you can turn him into a submissive and collar him to have a good boy. You can also turn him into a her with the genderbent route (same dom/sub paths), but she is a dickgirl. This is because I'm personally not a huge fan of writing NPC vagina. That being said, I put out an offer in the discord that if anyone wanted to sponser it and commission me to write the option for a submissive fem!Refnir to be dedicked, I would write it, but no one took me up on it.

Wait, wait, wait -- a muscular guy that can be a sub? In this economy? Well, well, well, I am glad. And look, as a bonus, all those that wish for dickgirl subs can get. Maybe that will quench their need to complain about how every dickgirl is a dom. It won't, but one can dream of fluffy sheep.

Also, yep, people beg untill it is time to put money where there mouth is. I noticed that people do not really commision people in fenoxo community as much as they used to. As one writer to another, you really need to play into peoples wants. That is how I get commisioned from time to time.

Regarding Quin, I went through and rewrote a LOT of his talks. He no longer oversexualizes the companions and has actual thoughts about them as people, he doesn't use his magic on random bystanders, and he actually talks to you (the person who saved him) about himself and trusts in you outright much more.

Wow. You really went out of your way to bask the bunny in a more possitive light. You do be here shooting down every complain forum folk had.

Also as a side note for Berwyn: he was Hugs' self insert. The only plan Hugs had for him was to make him a depressed, bipolar shut-in. If B hadn't taken him and finished him, Savin was just gonna full throtle make him a dickgirl with no other option. The whole situation sucked, but I'm glad we got what we did instead of what could have been.

I did not know that. Still, in game, as things were, Berwyn did not feel like a self insert. I am not sure of your personal thoughts of him as a companion, but I really enjoyed whaw was there. He sucked at combat, though.

Still, That is still dickish thing to do. Even ignoring their beef with Hugs, spitting in the face of people that liked Berwyn as this josou seme ideal just to spite the author... Like, why hurt also the folk that were attached to him? Also, I feel like B did not need to write the whole gendebend deal, unless he was commisioned for. Sure, from the looks of it, we have gotten the lesser of the two evils, but it is stil evil.

All that is to say: I am more then thankfull that you saved Quinn from pottentially the same fate (loosing all the male companions would suck), and I hope that the reason why you were not forced to genderbend Quin was because they learned from the whole ordeal, but I always hated how it was presented as "we had no other options" from the team. They could have given Berwyn the sendoff without turning him into a blob that, sure, has fans, but not seemingly as much as he, well now they, did.

 

[PixelLewd]

Homophobic Ruby was even funnier considering the arguably most popular Ruby ship was with Weiss. Ruby just mad she can't get a gf cause her sister inherited their dad's rizz and not her.
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Ruby's dad was such a Chad, and was thankfully never ruined, that I remember at least.

 

[Bluebird42]

All that is to say: I am more then thankfull that you saved Quinn from pottentially the same fate (loosing all the male companions would suck), and I hope that the reason why you were not forced to genderbend Quin was because they learned from the whole ordeal, but I always hated how it was presented as "we had no other options" from the team.

It was not. It was solely my decision to not genderbend the bunnyboy, but I'm determined to not let things turn out in the same way as the Berwyn situation, even if it did earn me some shit from some of the regulars. I really want to give him a fighting chance as a viable companion and listened to the feedback from the players that are asking for reasonable things.