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Hachikaido

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That doesn't change anything? The argument was that the previous games had more obvious and tangible reasoning for being on the adventure they're on. It being thrust onto them doesn't suddenly invalidate that.
This person said and I quote " In CoC2, there is no such goal. There's no real rhyme or reason for the MC to do what they are doing." The goal of COC and COC2 are the same exact thing, their not even trying to hide it. There was nothing obvious or tangible about it in both cases, because you the player took control of the MC at a certain point in their life and both you and them knew fuck all about what was really happening in the world they were sent into or are currently in. I don't know if it's because the game got a conclusion that you think they had more ambitious goals through rp scenarios you had while playing but nope there was not such a thing. If you are going to say one goal is lacking then the same applies to the other.

So then don't make a story that's so in your face. This was not a problem in previous games.
And to that, I'll say, suck it up and avoid it, so that it's not in your face. You have the option to, why complain? The gentleman or gentlewoman above me said it best. "COC2 is a narrative game", you're not gonna be able to rp through as much as you could in the former games, but like the former games. If there was something you did not like you could avoid it.

Nobody said anything about the quality of the stories in these games. Everybody knows they're flimsy excuses to just have a smut adventure. People think Cait is more of an MC than us because she has an actual goal(that doesn't get incredibly muddied by romancing the main fucking villain), is the reason the plot gets kicked off, is a Mary Sue, forces herself into a lot of content randomly, and is an obvious dev pet. I don't agree with the view, but I do understand why someone would think that way.

People can like or dislike something for more than one reason. Get off your high horse.
It fascinates me how close you were to getting it, then took a full 180. The story is not important, people can think Cait's goal is more important or fulfilling goal than conquering the queen of demons through combat or pure rizz. I'm saying people are just bringing lore they don't care about, to say why their mad an NPC is sleeping with other people. I know they don't care about it because they can't even realize that the MC has the same goal copied and pasted straight from COC


Nobody said anything about the quality of the stories in these games. Everybody knows they're flimsy excuses to just have a smut adventure. People think Cait is more of an MC than us because she has an actual goal(that doesn't get incredibly muddied by romancing the main fucking villain), is the reason the plot gets kicked off, is a Mary Sue, forces herself into a lot of content randomly, and is an obvious dev pet. I don't agree with the view, but I do understand why someone would think that way.
Also of course they are a dev pet, a dev writes for them. They are their character and should strive to put in as much effort into them, just like how Ryn is a dev pet, her author puts way too much time into her but I'm not complaining because it means more content. The same goes for Kiyoko and Brint/Brienne who by far had the most content out of the bunch. Until recently, Ryn got expac so that might not be true anymore. Even you admit you don't agree with that view. Like them, I'm expressing my opinion about how they're wrong/misleading they are. If I got to get on a high horse to push them off theirs then I'll do it. Cause you did not even bother to say the same to them when they responded, someone has to and I had too much free time to do it.

You can have reasons to hate Cait, like I said I know why the majority of people here don't like her and I will make short jokily make fun of them when they say it. They are at least telling the truth, if this person said I feel that the importance of Cait story might overshadow the MC I would be more likely to believe them. I might not agree and might have asked them to go into detail about how their nonexistent content overshadows the MCs but then they can respond to me that Savin said he'll do this and that and in the end she will kill Kas or something but at least that is a concern I can see them having, even though it has not happened yet nor am I sure will actually happen. None is this happened here. Maybe I should have just responded with. "Get off your high horse, talking about lore you know nothing about and just call Cait a no good slut" would have saved me some time.
 
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  • If you bring Viv to Vitra’s bar, the witch can offer to teach the mander some magic. This unlocks a new sex scene between Vitra and the PC where she puts what she learned to use!
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  • The High Ground quest now has additional support for if the PC, Liaden, and Azzy are all romantic. (By Alypia)
 

Hachikaido

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Got a question for you all, does Kas only get locked into Love or Rival at Winter City or can you win her over again in Mino City?
I think it's been stated that there will be more opportunities to raise your romance so it's not locked in yet. Whether you will be able to in Mino city though I'm not sure off. The range of her relationship score is like 4 and minimum so it may take multiple events to get her to love you if you continuously antagonized her.
 

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  • If you bring Viv to Vitra’s bar, the witch can offer to teach the mander some magic. This unlocks a new sex scene between Vitra and the PC where she puts what she learned to use!
  • Prince Nyze has a new victory sex scene! (By BerrySicky)
  • The High Ground quest now has additional support for if the PC, Liaden, and Azzy are all romantic. (By Alypia)
Looks like we got some PC preg after all, nice
 

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  • If you bring Viv to Vitra’s bar, the witch can offer to teach the mander some magic. This unlocks a new sex scene between Vitra and the PC where she puts what she learned to use!
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Fucking meh dude.
 
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Alterism

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Foxes are broken with the new update, lol. If you refuse them the game crashes. TOBS is starting to get desperate.

It was broken last patch. And I could swear they worked until the hotfix. But I can't check.

Like when you said you are creating your own quest for TITs.
You've misread.
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Speaking of:
She's also written to be this in-your-face love interest
Actually that's Etheryn.
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people are just bringing lore they don't care about
Nobody gives a fig about the story in borderlands and yet most people agree that Pre-Sequel is particularly bad in both departments and that 3 is negatively impacted and is only redeemed by having arguably the best gunplay in the franchise.

You don't have to care about the story/lore to make observations on why it's negatively impacting your experience. There are a lot of points of contention people have with this game. Laser focusing on one and handwaving the others with reductionist rhetoric "you just hate cait" is poor form.

In regards to story to begin with. The more pronounced you make your story, the more people notice it.
 
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  • If you bring Viv to Vitra’s bar, the witch can offer to teach the mander some magic. This unlocks a new sex scene between Vitra and the PC where she puts what she learned to use!
  • Prince Nyze has a new victory sex scene! (By BerrySicky)
  • The High Ground quest now has additional support for if the PC, Liaden, and Azzy are all romantic. (By Alypia)
I've always played a human man with a normal human cock and balls in these games, but I am so starved for vitra content that I guess I'm growing a vag.
 

zak1235

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I've always played a human man with a normal human cock and balls in these games, but I am so starved for vitra content that I guess I'm growing a vag.
I know that feel too well, brother :(. TiTS seems like it has more content for us normal male enjoyers, but as a fan of pseudo-fantasy I'm saddened at how futa centralized CoC2 is
 

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I know that feel too well, brother :(. TiTS seems like it has more content for us normal male enjoyers, but as a fan of pseudo-fantasy I'm saddened at how futa centralized CoC2 is
It's not. TiTS has more a lot Futa content than CoC2.But you can fuck most of their pussy or ass. Which basically being dom or equal in bed. Not in the Tits, you can see clearly their futa either get sucked, or using your poor ass. Only few you can have vanilla sex with them. And the worst part ? Most of them unlikable cunt without redemption quality
 

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Oh look first mayternity update!

What's that? only stuff for female MC to do? I SLEEP

Honestly I'm only excited with the P.S of this update hinting that we get Zhara the harpy wingleader to move into the wayfort, I like me my dommy harpy with impregnation fetish (then again not being into female MC I could play devil's advocate and say this update just wasn't for me...but seriously who gives a fuck bout extra content on the High Ground if you in a lesbo threesome with bee girl & paladin?)
 

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The goal of COC and COC2 are the same exact thing, their not even trying to hide it.
Like Alterism said, presentation of said goal matters. Yes the goal of both games is to kill the big bad. Problem with this game is that the goal is muddied and makes zero sense after a while.

Why are we going after Kasyrra in the first place? Because she said she was going to steal your soul. Alright, cool MC has valid reason to want to stop the big bad because they don't want that to happen. Small problem arises when Kasyrra literally tells the MC that she wants you to get more experience to make your soul better for her. Why would you continue your journey and give her what she wants by proxy? HUGE problem arises when you give your soul to one of the gods. If you do this(and objectively there is no reason not to unless you don't want to TF), then there is absolutely nothing Kasyrra can do unless she finds out who has it which she has no way of doing.

There you go, the journey is over. The goal has been accomplished. MC can fuck off and do whatever they want because apparently we're weak as shit and all these NPCs are apparently stronger than us so there's no reason for us to engage with the story anymore.
And to that, I'll say, suck it up and avoid it, so that it's not in your face. You have the option to, why complain?
No, we really don't have that option. If you want to engage with any content, you have to push the story forwards.

Also the "don't like it don't play it" argument is fucking stupid in its own right. How about if you don't like people's criticisms you don't look at them? Same logic.
"COC2 is a narrative game"
The story is not important
Does not compute.
I'm saying people are just bringing lore they don't care about, to say why their mad an NPC is sleeping with other people
I'm curious what sort of insane mental gymnastics you have to do to assume something like this.
Also of course they are a dev pet, a dev writes for them. They are their character and should strive to put in as much effort into them,
There is a clear difference between putting effort into a character and making them the super duper special OC that everybody loves and can do no wrong. Cait clearly falls into the latter. You can have an appreciation for your own characters without treating them like the second coming of Christ. There's a reason the term Mary Sue exists.
Like them, I'm expressing my opinion about how they're wrong/misleading they are. If I got to get on a high horse to push them off theirs then I'll do it.
They were never on a high horse. They stated their thoughts, weren't arrogant about it, and that's it. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, you do not have to be condescending just because you do not subscribe to their point of view. You are acting like you know them better than themselves/they are lying because they said a thing you don't agree with. Even if what they said was completely and unequivocally false, you can still have the sense to not put words in their mouth.
 

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Did I miss something in the elvish temple? I tried multiple run with differents corruption level but didn't found any big differences. You can fuck the dryad or kill her but once the dungeon is over it's basically the same output, the three elves have content after the dungeon if you didn't send them to the afterlife and for the wyld tree either you kill it or let the valkyries handle it but no different output or rewards. Is it right or did someone found something else?
 

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  • If you bring Viv to Vitra’s bar, the witch can offer to teach the mander some magic. This unlocks a new sex scene between Vitra and the PC where she puts what she learned to use!
  • Prince Nyze has a new victory sex scene! (By BerrySicky)
  • The High Ground quest now has additional support for if the PC, Liaden, and Azzy are all romantic. (By Alypia)
Have they fixed Azzy's relationship yet or are we still in her and Liaden's way
 

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Fair, not a fan of how you get to that point and never will be. But fair.
I probably have a very different take on the Azzy/Lia thing than most people in the thread to be honest. I don't see joining them any different than my character bringing Gia into my relationship with Bri for that threesome. To be fair I'd probably have the same reaction that others do if Azzy was chasing a male character, but not bringing one more woman into my big pile of lesbian fun.
 
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Nobody gives a fig about the story in borderlands and yet most people agree that Pre-Sequel is particularly bad in both departments
Wait, do people actually think that Pre-Sequel story was bad? I kinda felt like it was a great addition to the lore of the game. Sure, not all of the characters you engage with are as good as BL2, but in general I felt like it was good. I mostly heard about people being upset over it being a) it's typical borderlands, but everyone are Australian and b) How dare they imply that Vault Hunters, mercenaries that arrived to Pandora mostly to get rich, would do something morally questionable.
 
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