Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

You either go full greek orthodox monk and reject woman and sexuality as a whole, thus becoming an ultra man for whom this is not an issue at all

So long as said ultra man has a dick then he is gay. It is inevitable.

Are we talking about some kind of final solution?, because if we fail they might become stronger, get their own country, achieve global reach and then, at some point, expand dong their frontiers, creating some kind of futadom world in which, men are forced into a binding relationships with futas, cucked from their destiny as second class citizens to a degree at which, men cease to exist as a concept as they became just males in a new, sick reality

I hope no one makes a game about that it would be very tone deaf and hard to come up with a name for.

W-what are you doing? Stop it, whatever it is!

It's okay, there there, savin will never address the tragic backstory he made for her and we'll never have to empathize with her.

It's a testament to how nothing their last story update was since their forums are still mostly dead. I'm not brave enough to check their discord.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

CoC 2 is the TAZ Graduation of porn games.

 

[Teshay]

I really need to make it clear when I'm joking. I thought saying all of that and going over the top would do that. And yeah, you're right. I understand that we all have different preferences.

or you can try not to be a limp dick prick idk which would be easier

Fair enough. I'll take the L.

"Douchebags get all the girls" or so I've been told, seems like a powerful force within the writer team, it does happen this ntr bro also wish to bang you, he's what we could call, an omnivore bull cock missile pointing right at the champion and anything that exist in the middle

The only reason Brienne, Kiyoko and Driffa are not bending over to someone's oc who happens to be way cooler than the grey blob mc is that they are popular, the backlash keeps them safe unlike others

Always remember, "this is not about you (the champion)", is a foundational stone in this game, like a meme, cuckery is the DNA of CoC2's soul

I really don't understand the people who are into this. Like ntr shit is a specific niche for a reason, no self-respecting dude is going to be alright with those themes. Which is even more crazy because coc2 is on steam and they are actively alienating any potential customer.

Come on, you can say Cousin, we're not the Patreon Gestapo here. But yeah it was lame not never let us dick that smug brat down, even if it was fun to bitchslap their dog around and steal their sword.

CoC 2 really lacks Dom struggle stuff in a big way, most monsters are happy to be beaten. I remember specifically there was a lizard Centaur in TiTs who is mad to lose and gets turned into a hot mess and it was soooo fucking good. I havent seen anything like that in CoC 2. That drunk Kitsune deserves to be humiliated and enjoy it, but you can only sub. Coomslop has fallen....

No, I mean there is literally a character in Uveto, that's apparently your childhood friend and you had a falling out with her. "Anyxine Rhenesunne" is her name.And guess what? She's a dickgirl, not just any dickgirl but a dom one where your first sexual interaction is her facefucking you. Like WHAT THE SHIT?! Also apparently her sex scenes are random choices decided by her. Cringe as hell and waste of a character slot. But hey Idid here on recent content you can fuck your cousin.

Saddest part is that there are traces of a personality there and something more deep and meaningful than, "now I finally get to fuck you as I have wanted since my massive futa cock rewrote my whole personality"

Forget about a sweet romance between childhood friends, the two of them taking the reins of each their own family legacy and joined by those cute, innocent interactions that only become meaningful with adulthood, "I liked you since then, I was so scared but you were there, remember all those things?", all of that was sacrificed in the altar of crippling futa cock addiction

The worst part is just how much potential that character could have had. You guys both met when you are young, she changes and becomes a bit of a asshole so you slowly drift apart. Then when your father dies, she doesn't even come so that's more salt in the wound. There was so delicious drama and could have had a whole arc about mending the broken relationship. Jack/Jill could have taken part in fucking things up, but nah. Just a boring ass character that is only remembered because I was super excited to see how a childhood friend would be handled. I love the hell out of any content that specifically has to do with your character's past or personal motivations/cl

The heart of the issue is that Wsan goes out of his way to write Brint as a superior specimen even if you model your character to be identical or even better. If you're the same height he will always be written to be taller and more imposing. If you have the same or higher strength he is always written to be the strongest bull in the barn. If you have a bigger dick the text will always portray him as the superior sex machine regardless. What are his flaws as a character? What's more to his story? He just left home because he is cool and epic and that's about it. Oh and his dick can make any woman cream her brains out simply for the fact that he's a minotaur and has a horsecock, Cait will make sure to remind you at every chance. The previous statements were accurate in describing him as a walking cock, because there doesn't seem to be more to his character.


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Yes, let me rule over my own horde of demons on my cum throne. Instead of a sleep system you pick a dedicated cock polisher.
On another note a big issue savco has with the first bit is that the CoC1 mod already did that, with a Paladin background that buffed you for killing demons and nerfed you for interacting with them. They still screech "MuRdErHoBo!!" every time someone brings it up. I swear it's almost depressing whenever someone stirs up their little hornet nest, just drones screeching the same exact response without giving you an actual reason on why its bad beyond parroting what Savin or someone else on the dev team says.
You don't like seeing "your lover" get fucked by someone else? They'll just screech "hypocrite" at you
Among other pre-programmed statements injected into their brains.
Just earlier they were making fun at someone for having criticisms on the forum.

Again what the fuck were they thinking? Who the fuck wants to have someone in the party that constantly emasculates them? Don't they understand that the bare BASICS of these types of games is to make the player feel special? So they can live out a fantasy of being someone they can't be in real life? I had such a hate-boner for bring that I cackled like a mad-man when they released scenes of him taking only for it to just be another way of worshiping this guy.


I just HATE HIM AND EVERYONE LIKE HIM GRRR RUFF RUFF AAAASAASSGAUJADSIKAJLKASFJKL;ASFK;LFAS

 

[Teshay]

That's the ntr/corruption mindset and as someone that from time to time plays that kind of games, it doesn't work at all. Is far too sudden and far too tame which makes it boring

Brint seems like the fantasy of an ultra sexual cock master who happens to be into anything and is able to seduce and fuck everyone around you, including you. You can be sure as hell that the writer was totally aroused while writing each and every time his cock measured those extra inches the champion will never have

Someone once told me, and I think he was right, that while writing you must be able to abstract yourself from your work in order to gain perspective, this never happens in this game

As a shit-tier writer, being able to write outside of your personal feelings or views is what separates the good from the bad. It's also pretty clear to a lot of readers because a lot of works written by the bad type tend to be self-insert cringe shit. I simply can't understand how they get paid writing their personal fetish shit that is meant to be for the consumer. But then again, the people who are actively supporting them financially are the ones into what they are.

I've barely started the game, but I actually don't mind Brint as a party member so far (though he's basically in my party by default because his knight set makes it impossible for the party to lose and also because I've only encountered three members total so far: Cait, him and the dullahan girl). At least in the early game that I'm going through right now, there's only really scenes where he joins in on dominating the defeated enemies and occasional threesomes/sharing that the player agrees to, so no issues here.

My one big complaint is with the way that his 'romance' with the (male) MC works, and it annoys me for the reasons you've stated. I'm assuming the scenes are being written in such a way that they can be reused for both male and female players, so it's just easier to make being the submissive bottom the default. And while it would be mildly annoying that the Top!MC dynamic wasn't being considered at all, I could've just ignored this part of the game and moved on. But then they actually do include a repeatable sex scene where MC tops him ("I'm always on top" my ass), but only if you've already entered into the bottom dynamic with him, so what's even the point then.

Yep, I hate characters who you have to bottom for just to get to their content. Even if you can skip over it, it doesn't change what you had to do and ruin play immersion.

It's a sad world when you go to Sanders thinking that fixing the armor will give you a cool item instead of more pain

Vatia... I'll never forgive you. That baby you're waiting for shall never exist
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Idk why but this pic seems very familiar. On a of chance is it a doujin about a guy getting back on his wife for cheating on him?

Agreed, I actually really like Brint, but I wish there were options and scenes that account for you *also* being a big hunky minotaur and the relationship being more mutual/reciprocal/switch-y for lack of a better word. Instead we seesaw between having two scenes where we top him (but even *those* scenes still have to include elements of "oh sure you come really hard in his ass but what *he* does is even more impressive" one-up manship showing how much better he is) ... or being utterly submissive and subby to him.

Why not some genuine back and forth and playfulness, as a real couple operates? Perhaps an option where you playfight to see who tops who?

Not to mention as others have said he still mostly seems to act like a weird himbo fuckbuddy instead of a husband/boyfriend, even if you marry him, there seems to be little genuine romance there outside of the occasional nice moments.

I think it's been made clear that the writers are kinda losers who don't really know how to right proper relationships that aren't a hard sub or dom dynamic. I'm able to wave it off partially because it's a porn game and headcanoning shit, but it really hurts a "narrative driven" game if the narrative is just some 50 shades of highschool romance bullshit. I fucking melted at the small interaction with Arona during the minotuar kingdom's bathing place where she gets a lot of shit for being a orc raider/slaver. I got to tell her that I geniuely loved her and

Are we talking about some kind of final solution?, because if we fail they might become stronger, get their own country, achieve global reach and then, at some point, expand dong their frontiers, creating some kind of futadom world in which, men are forced into a binding relationships with futas, cucked from their destiny as second class citizens to a degree at which, men cease to exist as a concept as they became just males in a new, sick reality


She sometimes suffer from nightmares and asks to sleep together, is one of the few times she's not flirting or doing anything sexual or weird, instead, she clings to the champion as the scared, regular girl she's supposed to be, like the person the temple stole and they'll never get to meet. This makes her far more tolerable, this let the champion forgive her clinginess and her antics. That's why the champion doesn't kick her out when she asks to stay for the night, because for a short time, Cait feels almost real

We don’t fear the dream. We fear what it means when we try to make it real. Because then it can die. (Imagine how interesting cait would be if she truly felt her teachings were wrong. And how the gods were not always on our side, and can be just a twisted as man? How many more avenues of story would that open up?)

 

[GS21]

We don’t fear the dream. We fear what it means when we try to make it real. Because then it can die. (Imagine how interesting cait would be if she truly felt her teachings were wrong. And how the gods were not always on our side, and can be just a twisted as man? How many more avenues of story would that open up?)

All hope died when the temple content was added. Now the only route open for the PC is enabling the sex cult. For your troubles you get passive income you're never gonna use + a shittier version of Cait. This one's even more uninteresting and doesn't even pretend to like you like Cait does.

 

[Teshay]

All hope died when the temple content was added. Now the only route open for the PC is enabling the sex cult. For your troubles you get passive income you're never gonna use + a shittier version of Cait. This one's even more uninteresting and doesn't even pretend to like you like Cait does.

It's dead ground. I have it and a lot of times forget about it's existence. Which is just bad, a game really should have so many sections that are forgettable or ignored.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Very forgettable, if ur not pursuing a relationship with Kass. But that also means you have to whore yourself get her scenes, which then allows Savin to write how much you like being a slut like Kass which then justifies other bullshit.

 

[GS21]

Berwyn does have clear goals, he's endearing enough with that bratty attitude and a hidden heart of gold, he shows weakness at times and does an effort to do what's right despite the odds against him. You get to know him and aid him in a quite fun quest you're both invested in, due to an actual threat against the world, and while you can't make him a companion, the whole package is quite good. A lot of people likes him, including me

Nikol on the other hand does have an interesting background. Too cute and small to stand on the same ground as his father and brothers, too meek, too weak, too incompetent to be good enough in any other field, he finds himself lacking except for work at the brothel being the only thing he's good at, the place where he shines due to his one and only talent, something he knows will work only for so long, because he'll get old and boring, and no one remembers the old whores, no one cares about their feelings. There's a sense of sadness in the way he's presented different in a meaningful way to the other prostitutes at the temple and khor'minos

I'm not sure there's a single futa character in this game developed with the same care, there are plenty that got a lot of material, some of them even get good stuff as long as that futa switch from personality to cock is ignored, but not in the succinct way the few femboys here and there get

NGL I initially came for Marigold when the content dropped, but I only came back for Kesuk...

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

We should be allowed to dedick every character.

sadly, she was also a virgin and therefore, prime sacrifice material

The one virgin in the world and she's become a non-entity. Ya hate to see it.

 

[jkh115]

When the game is complete(never), Imma mod the shit put of this game. I will begin by dedicking the futas and make them pay for it all.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Berwyn does have clear goals, he's endearing enough with that bratty attitude and a hidden heart of gold, he shows weakness at times and does an effort to do what's right despite the odds against him. You get to know him and aid him in a quite fun quest you're both invested in, due to an actual threat against the world, and while you can't make him a companion, the whole package is quite good. A lot of people likes him, including me

And push come to shove, you can turn em into a woman! Everyone can get a slice of that dark skinned pie. Which makes his ultimate fate all the more unfortunate. Absolute waste of a design and character.

.....I just want my half-lupines man.

With the furry arms and legs! Not the regular human looking ones with ears and stuffs. That shit is my jam....

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Now you're just being stupid and ignoring best practice, you could never be a leader because you don't listen or just don't want to. I never said transformations were being taken out but cutting the bloat for both Dev and Writer, so there can be more instances of roleplay and interactivity.

Really? Now I know your trolling. Fuck you too

>You don't want to listen
>Best practice
I don't want to listen to dumb shit you're spewing. Gutting the core features of a game is not a "best practice".
Go fuck yourself.

 

[FurrBat]

.....I just want my half-lupines man.

How many were even there? "Feature completed" Berwyn, "Low priority" Liulfr and "Skow special" Solveig, Frost pupper is probably also "complete".

Not gonna lie I forgot the green-pink assault on my eyes existence until today.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

"The other day you were combing one of your daughter's hair and you looked so peaceful and she was so happy, so content to have you around, can't remember a single time my mom did that for me. The other girls at the temple, the older ones, tried their best, but they were always so busy and they looked so tired after the praying hours. I won't lie, it was scary the first time we saw them praying, till they gave us a taste of the dust they had to keep us calm, and then, everything was so... So fluffy, so soft, so meaningless, like a smoky and colorful cloud that made us sleepy so the parishioners wouldn't get bothered because of our presence, you know?, I would really like if you combed my hair like that, your are always so careful around me and if Salwah asks about the dust for the temple, please tell her we can't have that thing here, I don't wanna smell that kind of stuff ever again"

I wonder for how long I can go, maybe a couple more

Tht would be interesting tho, we meet her when she's at a crossroads of rejecting her indoctrination or fully embracing it (similar to Shadowheart and the Cultgirl stereotype). We get to dig into that and see shades of it from her reactions to stuff, and ultimately influence her on her path.
Also gud shit, I'm enjoying ur Cait fanfic

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

>You don't want to listen
>Best practice
I don't want to listen to dumb shit you're spewing. Gutting the core features of a game is not a "best practice".
Go fuck yourself.

Eat a dick brov, ur a fan, its what ur gud at. Blowing off something u like regardless of it looks.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Eat a dick brov, ur a fan, its what ur gud at. Blowing off something u like regardless of it looks.

Me? A fan!?


That's it. I'm turning myself into a dickgirl futademon. And fucking everyone's collective unconscious in the ass.

 

[Jbuster]

Me? A fan!?
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That's it. I'm turning myself into a dickgirl futademon. And fucking everyone's collective unconscious in the ass.

You'll reach nirvana as a futadom only to learn Savin's ass was already there, waiting for this chance

We should be allowed to dedick every character.


The one virgin in the world and she's become a non-entity. Ya hate to see it.

You'll get her once every demon in Mareth get a taste of those buns as she turns into... A regular Cait

And push come to shove, you can turn em into a woman! Everyone can get a slice of that dark skinned pie. Which makes his ultimate fate all the more unfortunate. Absolute waste of a design and character.

.....I just want my half-lupines man.
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With the furry arms and legs! Not the regular human looking ones with ears and stuffs. That shit is my jam....

You were allowed such a deep relationship with him, to the point of deciding his true form and name, only to have him locked into that tower of trample in netscape, forever

But at least Matiha got to be happy thanks to you, the champion. All it cost you was his presence and companionship forever

How many were even there? "Feature completed" Berwyn, "Low priority" Liulfr and "Skow special" Solveig, Frost pupper is probably also "complete".

Not gonna lie I forgot the green-pink assault on my eyes existence until today.

Frost pupper wouldn't jump on Brint's dick just because she can, she wouldn't do that to mu champion... And because of that she's stuck at limbo

Tht would be interesting tho, we meet her when she's at a crossroads of rejecting her indoctrination or fully embracing it (similar to Shadowheart and the Cultgirl stereotype). We get to dig into that and see shades of it from her reactions to stuff, and ultimately influence her on her path.
Also gud shit, I'm enjoying ur Cait fanfic

"You must be the first person to stay with me after having sex, everyone else just leave. They are sated, they are happy, Mallach is proud of my service, I know that, but you stay and hold me close, sometimes you even kiss the top of my head and then, then I'm not sure if I'm still praising him, I'm not sure if that counts as praying because I only think about you. A lot of times, when the afterglow dies I wish you were there instead of whoever gets a piece of me, is a sinful feeling because I'm not supposed to be sad after having sex. I know... I know you have many others, I know you love a lot so maybe, maybe my heart can't hold so many people as you can?, and if that's true, if I were to truly love someone, if I could just renounce to this then, then I would wish you'd have my heart and my love too, if I were a different person, if only I could be... Yet, I'm not supposed to be sad while on his service, so I do my best, I'm trying, I really am"

Today I saw a bitch with a massive ass, it was great, awesome

 

[GS21]

Today I saw a bitch with a massive ass, it was great, awesome

Awesome

 

[Daddums]

Me? A fan!?
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That's it. I'm turning myself into a dickgirl futademon. And fucking everyone's collective unconscious in the ass.

Do it, then dominate Savin and make him turn the game around into a power fantasy for the player.

 

[Yeppers34]

You'll reach nirvana as a futadom only to learn Savin's ass was already there, waiting for this chance


You'll get her once every demon in Mareth get a taste of those buns as she turns into... A regular Cait


You were allowed such a deep relationship with him, to the point of deciding his true form and name, only to have him locked into that tower of trample in netscape, forever

But at least Matiha got to be happy thanks to you, the champion. All it cost you was his presence and companionship forever


Frost pupper wouldn't jump on Brint's dick just because she can, she wouldn't do that to mu champion... And because of that she's stuck at limbo


"You must be the first person to stay with me after having sex, everyone else just leave. They are sated, they are happy, Mallach is proud of my service, I know that, but you stay and hold me close, sometimes you even kiss the top of my head and then, then I'm not sure if I'm still praising him, I'm not sure if that counts as praying because I only think about you. A lot of times, when the afterglow dies I wish you were there instead of whoever gets a piece of me, is a sinful feeling because I'm not supposed to be sad after having sex. I know... I know you have many others, I know you love a lot so maybe, maybe my heart can't hold so many people as you can?, and if that's true, if I were to truly love someone, if I could just renounce to this then, then I would wish you'd have my heart and my love too, if I were a different person, if only I could be... Yet, I'm not supposed to be sad while on his service, so I do my best, I'm trying, I really am"

Today I saw a bitch with a massive ass, it was great, awesome

Dude at this point you might as well just write a cait fanfic