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Well, that escalated from "we should strive to please everyone" pretty quickly. And all it took was to point out your suggestion was flawed.
If you think a bit of sarcasm with one word capitalized is a drastic escalation, not sure what to tell you. Even disregarding that, why does emotion = bad?
Kiyoko's character seems to remind me of courtesans/geishas, some sort of a very polite concubine who's seen and done all and can satisfy a man in any way they desire. The way she never breaks her smile and the super polite acting makes me wonder whether it's all just an act.
And yet she's super high on the popularity poll for some reason.

We live in a society.
 

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You imagined that infidelity and sold that idea to yourself.
I never talked about infidelity to begin with? I just said that I like innocent inexperienced girls as opposed to those that are implied to be very skilled in the art of love.

I'm not sure why we are even having this discussion. Just like some people like men while other like women (and some like women that are similar to men in the downstairs department), some people like slutty characters, others like virgins. It's like arguing over tastes (which is cringe).
 

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I got a question for people that did the fleep gambling demons, do they wreck up the place if you bring them to the Wayfort? Like them corrupting people. The cat merchant so far hasn't, but I always worry she's going to spontaneously turn my wayfort into demons.
I doubt that's ever going to happen with any characters sent there and if it did, I'm sure they'd warn the player. Personally wish I killed them on my playthrough because they're so... eh.
 

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I never talked about infidelity to begin with? I just said that I like innocent inexperienced girls as opposed to those that are implied to be very skilled in the art of love.

I'm not sure why we are even having this discussion. Just like some people like men while other like women (and some like women that are similar to men in the downstairs department), some people like slutty characters, others like virgins. It's like arguing over tastes (which is cringe).
Ahhh, I'm sorry about the infidelity thing
 

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It feels more like an arranged marriage of convenience than one born from affection and care.
Because it is. She wanted something from me and I wanted something from her. Thought it would become more than that but Tobs decided we needed to be an outsider to our family too.
I got a question for people that did the fleep gambling demons, do they wreck up the place if you bring them to the Wayfort? Like them corrupting people. The cat merchant so far hasn't, but I always worry she's going to spontaneously turn my wayfort into demons.
Forget they're even there, so most likely not.
 

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FYI if you rush the rift to get to gated content know that you will miss the stuff in Sanders closet quest (winged sabatons) cause if you do the abyss first it says you failed the quest even if you didn't have it yet.
 
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Transformations doing things. Sensible chuckle.
Speaking of wings the sun castle actually lets you use them with a aerial training course you can challenge a valkyrie to. And I'm not sure if was my characters agility or the fact she naturally had wings (wyld elf) but she beat the pants off her.
 
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I haven't done anything with the valkyries after saving Lumia, how's the writing for them?
Forgettable. It's not TOBS copypasting like he does with some of the kitsune stuff, but honestly I found it hard to engage with any of the valkyries. Not helped by the fact that the "Conflicts" are resolved really quick.
There's a big muscle valkyrie who everyone things is a dom, but she wants so bad to be a sub. So you go "Hey I think you should be a sub and have my babies," and she goes "Okay, but we need Lumia to agree to that," so you walk two tiles and Lumia goes "Oh, so you're finally ready to be a sub, sure, here you go."
Thus ends the play.
 

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There's a big muscle valkyrie who everyone things is a dom, but she wants so bad to be a sub. So you go "Hey I think you should be a sub and have my babies," and she goes "Okay, but we need Lumia to agree to that," so you walk two tiles and Lumia goes "Oh, so you're finally ready to be a sub, sure, here you go."
Lol that's some "Small on Top" level of storytelling, except straight.
 
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Lol that's some "Small on Top" level of storytelling, except straight.
I think my summary covered all the major talking points. If not, I blame how forgettable it was.
It's the same energy as the really early harvest valley stuff that doesn't fit the game anymore. They're not bad... but they felt unneeded given how out of the way they are and most of their content is covered by other NPC's who could use the dust cleaning off. That said, I don't know what the "Becoming a Valkyrie" content is like, I've got one old female save that I just stopped progressing with because there was so little content, maybe Lumia is a better god than Keros and her scenes are worth it?

EDIT: Oh I also remembered having unlocked the option to breed the winged woman that her dialogue didn't even change for the sex scene, not even a throwaway joke about "Taking her in missionary for the sole purpose of procreation" like you got in CoC for Shouldra in silly mode. Really hard to feel invested when it seemed like the writers weren't either.

Actually, this is going to sound really hateful but I do not intend it as such, I've just dipped in to the Thrud (muscle sub) content again to make sure I'm not being unfair, and it really makes me think of the AI storytellers I play around with. Maybe that's why it doesn't work for me, because it doesn't read different to what I'm getting a lot of already. It reads like heavily curated AI content; prompt, AI takes it a little weird, does its best, conclusion, then user comes in and makes it all flow. For instance:

On approach, Halima sighs with relief and walks over to you. "Hey, Champion. How are you?"
"You know. Living the dream."
You shrug amiably. "Thanks for asking. What about you — what's wrong? Where's Annika?"
"It's Annika. She's, um..."
"She's not having a good day."
Thrud, the enormous half-jotun warmaiden you met earlier, moves into view. Her slightly slumped shoulders and pensive frown speak volumes about the nature of that not-good-day Annika's having. "I don't know how that meeting you were holding went, but —"

She initiates, but then you need to prompt what's wrong, she repeats it's about Annika ignoring your prompt, a third character gets injected out of no-where and you get a reminder about them despite previous interactions. It's a lot of wasted space.
 
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I haven't done anything with the valkyries after saving Lumia, how's the writing for them?
The TF itself is a huge let down, especially compared to Keros. Maybe it's just because my character is a wyld elf with dove wings as her mark but literally the only thing that changed was my corruption icon. Wooo. The writing is okay, not great, not bad, just okay. Sunstrike is nice, especially as a at will. when I do get the lightsaber that with the gladius and sunstrike is going to be a ton of holy damage. I need to remember where I learned that holy strike(?) spell before cause that would make it even better. The quest with Lumia wasn't bad though, fairly original as far as this game goes even.
 
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Smite Evil? You learn it from mirroring edge fox. You can also learn from Brother Sanders. The Paladin Formerly Known As Kas also gives you a Celestial Smite or you can also learn it from Sanders.
So far the closest I can find is charge weapon but I don't remember it being a at will. It added holy damage to your attacks like charge weapon does though. It may have been smite evil.
 

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If you think a bit of sarcasm with one word capitalized is a drastic escalation, not sure what to tell you. Even disregarding that, why does emotion = bad?
I was actually referring mostly to this part
If people cry about it because they want to min-max while also wanting the character's content, that's their own problem.
"If people don't like reward options then it's their own problem" is quite a departure from "we should strive to please everyone", wouldn't you say?

But i suppose i should be pleased, because you're now basically saying the same thing i've said in the first place, and which you disputed. So, we're in agreement and can put this to rest.
 
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They wrote themselves an excuse is saying it has to be direct descent, and the Noble Scion says you are the youngest child of nobility,
My brother in Christ that makes even less sense now Azzy is a literal bug, aint nobody getting kingslayer for knocking down a wasp nest, and Eve is in the exact same position as the PC scion. It's just another one of those rules for thee not for me situations.

Raises the question why even bother with a PC in the first place. Half the time its a walking/voyeurism simulator, add insult to injury tfs are useless, choices are meaningless, kids are just notches on ya belt, and no one on staff likes writing for the poor fucker anyway. Probably why this game feels so npc heavy, folk behind the scenes are more concerned with telling their story instead of decent cohesive version of "yours".

Besides most folks just here for the porn anyhow, Joe schmoe don't care for story or who's getting dicked down as long as someone getting dicked. Afterwards poor bastard probably won't even remember what they just busted a nut to. So why bother, it's easier to crank out scenes for ocs and npcs and everything in between compared to everyone's special snowflake. Next game fuck em, instead of all the vitriol, half-assing, and excuses just have em die off-screen before the game and you play as Brint or Brienne railing or getting railed in their honour. After that if it still takes 2years to update a questline then ya'll can call em lazy cunts as much as you want.

i want to get raped
You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.
 

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"If people don't like reward options then it's their own problem" is quite a departure from "we should strive to please everyone", wouldn't you say?
No? I said we should strive to please everyone, yes. That doesn't mean bend over backwards and be fine with people complaining about every little thing. It's utterly ridiculous to say my alternatives would cause more annoyance than what currently exists.

Are you going to bring up the fact that I also said Etheryn as a route would've made perfect sense and also fix this issue? No, and even if you did, you would have said people would be annoyed at having to choose between characters even though that is already a problem within the quest itself. Or any other number of excuses why it couldn't be done.

I did not say you're going to be able to please everybody. You should try to please more than just one niche if you're making a game as broad as this, though.
But i suppose i should be pleased, because you're now basically saying the same thing i've said in the first place, and which you disputed. So, we're in agreement and can put this to rest.
There is no winning with you. Especially if you're going to keep acting so smug all the time.
 
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