Fiz1247

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K, i'm kinda new here, so i'll ask bluntly - who the fuck is TOBs and what is his crime against the community?
Has a vendetta against all of us because some guys a decade ago wanted daughterfu incest in CoC1.You can lurk the old pages to learn more.
 

Alterism

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I more keep tabs with this thread. If there's an update posted, it's likely all of 6ish minutes of 'content' to sift through and makes no significant impact on daily budget. I don't interact with the OF anymore (not that I really did before when I realized that almost no real point anybody brought up in that old COC2 gripes thread was ever going to matter.

It wasn't that many years ago when somebody asked if the CG's that showed the "PC" (just Savin's MC) could be an optional thing to view. Which is a rather reasonable ask. Only for him to be shut down. "All or nothing" by a person who clearly sees the issue of providing a face for your character but doesn't care about your immersion.

K, i'm kinda new here, so i'll ask bluntly - who the fuck is TOBs and what is his crime against the community?
Hmm... Well that aside I'm in a mood so I'm not going to hold much back from the tomes.

Just another writer. Wrote a bunch of spite projects (such as a rape scene for a loss against enemies made specifically to make the player unhappy) and got exactly what was being looked for.
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And apparently had to get reined in...
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In regards to quality...

The intro to a sex scene surely gets you broiling when talking about aristocratic cheekbones and introspective analysis



Isn't the currency electrum? Nobody else in this setting has traded with anything related to copper. And what the hell is the MC thinking about midcoitus?


About the person themselves?
Tobs is a bit of a dick
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I may be hyper critical about Bubs but I'm doing it in a place that I assume not even he is insane enough to try to browse to assuage his ego. Calling out somebody in a very public way is... I mean...

And...
Actually let's stop there.

Tobs is the perfect storm of arrogance. Nobody outside of this space knows or cares about these works. Yet the fellow has the 'I'm never wrong and everything I write is amazing' attitude of somebody who has written award winning stuff.

But hey, at least he delivers works and at least tries with the dungeons.
 

Wrynn13

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I agree with the dungeons, probably Tobs best work. He's the only one I can think of that gives options based on present companions or stats/history of the MC.
 

AnonZeta

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honestly for some reason I would want to see how TOBS could have written the PC into being a shit mother if we were allowed to have the PC to be Kinu's mother rather than Kiyoko, I mean this game is already obsessed with futa so I am surprised the game doesn't have that as a option for her
 

MoneyMan181

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I more keep tabs with this thread. If there's an update posted, it's likely all of 6ish minutes of 'content' to sift through and makes no significant impact on daily budget. I don't interact with the OF anymore (not that I really did before when I realized that almost no real point anybody brought up in that old COC2 gripes thread was ever going to matter.

It wasn't that many years ago when somebody asked if the CG's that showed the "PC" (just Savin's MC) could be an optional thing to view. Which is a rather reasonable ask. Only for him to be shut down. "All or nothing" by a person who clearly sees the issue of providing a face for your character but doesn't care about your immersion.


Hmm... Well that aside I'm in a mood so I'm not going to hold much back from the tomes.

Just another writer. Wrote a bunch of spite projects (such as a rape scene for a loss against enemies made specifically to make the player unhappy) and got exactly what was being looked for.
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And apparently had to get reined in...
View attachment 2770715

In regards to quality...

The intro to a sex scene surely gets you broiling when talking about aristocratic cheekbones and introspective analysis



Isn't the currency electrum? Nobody else in this setting has traded with anything related to copper. And what the hell is the MC thinking about midcoitus?


About the person themselves?
Tobs is a bit of a dick
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I may be hyper critical about Bubs but I'm doing it in a place that I assume not even he is insane enough to try to browse to assuage his ego. Calling out somebody in a very public way is... I mean...

And...
Actually let's stop there.

Tobs is the perfect storm of arrogance. Nobody outside of this space knows or cares about these works. Yet the fellow has the 'I'm never wrong and everything I write is amazing' attitude of somebody who has written award winning stuff.

But hey, at least he delivers works and at least tries with the dungeons.
You know you fucked up when literally every single one of your coworkers can't even be bothered to defend your retardation. This man has the emotional maturity of a 13 year old.
And, like the Patreon system, it has its holes, not least of which are myriad inconsistencies in tone, writing, and quality - but like the Patreon system, I'm pretty sure we'd have gotten vastly inferior results without it.
Genuinely wish I could see that because making this game "vastly inferior" seems like a mission in its own right.
 

arls120

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It wasn't that many years ago when somebody asked if the CG's that showed the "PC" (just Savin's MC) could be an optional thing to view. Which is a rather reasonable ask. Only for him to be shut down. "All or nothing" by a person who clearly sees the issue of providing a face for your character but doesn't care about your immersion.
I don't feel at all comfortable reading this Brint scene anymore because of that.....

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I'm pretty sure my MC is not a futa elf
 

arls120

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I'm pretty sure that one was Alypia's insert. Also it's not in the game is it? I don't do Brint scenes so I don't know. But yeah...
yep it appears in one of brint's sex scenes there is no way to remove it..............the last time they told me it was from savin the mc
 

Quintilus

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tbh writing, and art in general, dont work like '100k story in 4 days!? pfff, hold my beer, I will do it in 1 day!!!'.
Yes, its possible to write/type something that would have 100k words in it, probably even without tricks like 'unable to can' or 'quarter of dozens', but it will be, for the lack of words in english language, complete shit. There are should be divine inspiration which dont come on the first (and second/third/...) request. Otherwise text will have color of curtains in inappropriate sections and completely broken dialogues that impossible to read first try, just for the sake of reaching 100k limit.
 
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Deviton123

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I more keep tabs with this thread. If there's an update posted, it's likely all of 6ish minutes of 'content' to sift through and makes no significant impact on daily budget. I don't interact with the OF anymore (not that I really did before when I realized that almost no real point anybody brought up in that old COC2 gripes thread was ever going to matter.

It wasn't that many years ago when somebody asked if the CG's that showed the "PC" (just Savin's MC) could be an optional thing to view. Which is a rather reasonable ask. Only for him to be shut down. "All or nothing" by a person who clearly sees the issue of providing a face for your character but doesn't care about your immersion.


Hmm... Well that aside I'm in a mood so I'm not going to hold much back from the tomes.

Just another writer. Wrote a bunch of spite projects (such as a rape scene for a loss against enemies made specifically to make the player unhappy) and got exactly what was being looked for.
View attachment 2770684

And apparently had to get reined in...
View attachment 2770715

In regards to quality...

The intro to a sex scene surely gets you broiling when talking about aristocratic cheekbones and introspective analysis



Isn't the currency electrum? Nobody else in this setting has traded with anything related to copper. And what the hell is the MC thinking about midcoitus?


About the person themselves?
Tobs is a bit of a dick
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I may be hyper critical about Bubs but I'm doing it in a place that I assume not even he is insane enough to try to browse to assuage his ego. Calling out somebody in a very public way is... I mean...

And...
Actually let's stop there.

Tobs is the perfect storm of arrogance. Nobody outside of this space knows or cares about these works. Yet the fellow has the 'I'm never wrong and everything I write is amazing' attitude of somebody who has written award winning stuff.

But hey, at least he delivers works and at least tries with the dungeons.
Damn, I almost feel bad for Bubbles...
Almost
 

TalRash4

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I more keep tabs with this thread. If there's an update posted, it's likely all of 6ish minutes of 'content' to sift through and makes no significant impact on daily budget. I don't interact with the OF anymore (not that I really did before when I realized that almost no real point anybody brought up in that old COC2 gripes thread was ever going to matter.

It wasn't that many years ago when somebody asked if the CG's that showed the "PC" (just Savin's MC) could be an optional thing to view. Which is a rather reasonable ask. Only for him to be shut down. "All or nothing" by a person who clearly sees the issue of providing a face for your character but doesn't care about your immersion.


Hmm... Well that aside I'm in a mood so I'm not going to hold much back from the tomes.

Just another writer. Wrote a bunch of spite projects (such as a rape scene for a loss against enemies made specifically to make the player unhappy) and got exactly what was being looked for.
View attachment 2770684

And apparently had to get reined in...
View attachment 2770715

In regards to quality...

The intro to a sex scene surely gets you broiling when talking about aristocratic cheekbones and introspective analysis



Isn't the currency electrum? Nobody else in this setting has traded with anything related to copper. And what the hell is the MC thinking about midcoitus?


About the person themselves?
Tobs is a bit of a dick
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I may be hyper critical about Bubs but I'm doing it in a place that I assume not even he is insane enough to try to browse to assuage his ego. Calling out somebody in a very public way is... I mean...

And...
Actually let's stop there.

Tobs is the perfect storm of arrogance. Nobody outside of this space knows or cares about these works. Yet the fellow has the 'I'm never wrong and everything I write is amazing' attitude of somebody who has written award winning stuff.

But hey, at least he delivers works and at least tries with the dungeons.
Wow, this is a very detailed explanation. I'm not sure if you hate him or even admire his…complacency a little. Perhaps, both.
 

Alterism

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Wow, this is a very detailed explanation. I'm not sure if you hate him or even admire his…complacency a little. Perhaps, both.
Neither. Generally it's just stuff seen in the peripheral. Most of everything I know and have came from back when I was more of a fan of a project.
 
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Daken9

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Kinda crazy that Balak guy, whoever he is for the team, rejected most of Tobs' ntr proposals because of how bad it got but the Brienne rape scene taken straight from the Crow still went through. Must have been some Nanking shit. Of course with the foxes playing japanese and everyone else the chinese.
 

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I don't feel at all comfortable reading this Brint scene anymore because of that.....

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I'm pretty sure my MC is not a futa elf
Interestingly, this has been a matter of contention in TiTS. Before the overhaul into JS, there was a separate download for an Image Pack that contained higher resolution busts as well as CGs embedded within various scenes. Like CoC2, the TiTS image pack is now part of the base game, which means all players will see these images. Many commissioned CGs in TiTS feature a generic-looking dog-girl named that is technically William's own player character.

At least one major conversation took place with William in the Public FenChat server about this, concerning whether or not players found it immersion breaking. There was all-around agreement that the pictures helped flavor various scenes and represent the logistics. William himself said that the CGs he commissioned were always meant to be visualizations of the scenes as they are written, and that CGs containing Riley are only for player-submissive events. He also said that he uses her because she looks generic, and that despite being an ausar, a player could still see themselves in her place. It bears mentioning that plenty of people said they would have never known about Riley being his if they hadn't joined the Discord server, so it's not unfair to assume that the thousands of silent lurkers funding and enjoying TiTS aren't troubled.

There was also vociferous agreement that people didn't want to see "other cocks" near characters they liked, which is why player-dominant events feature silhouettes and PoVs, like one of the CGs featuring Slyveren. Unlike CoC2, I think it's worth making your voice heard on the matter in TiTS, if you play it. Many of the newer features added to the game have been slotted in by the lead programmer precisely because there was a good faith discussion preceding its inclusion.

That said, unless the scope of these games narrows significantly, the CGs will never be truly accurate to your specific experience and the character you've created. I, for one, would rather have as many CGs as the developers can afford, but with minimal OC-itis.
 

destroyerofassholes

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I more keep tabs with this thread. If there's an update posted, it's likely all of 6ish minutes of 'content' to sift through and makes no significant impact on daily budget. I don't interact with the OF anymore (not that I really did before when I realized that almost no real point anybody brought up in that old COC2 gripes thread was ever going to matter.

It wasn't that many years ago when somebody asked if the CG's that showed the "PC" (just Savin's MC) could be an optional thing to view. Which is a rather reasonable ask. Only for him to be shut down. "All or nothing" by a person who clearly sees the issue of providing a face for your character but doesn't care about your immersion.


Hmm... Well that aside I'm in a mood so I'm not going to hold much back from the tomes.

Just another writer. Wrote a bunch of spite projects (such as a rape scene for a loss against enemies made specifically to make the player unhappy) and got exactly what was being looked for.
View attachment 2770684

And apparently had to get reined in...
View attachment 2770715

In regards to quality...

The intro to a sex scene surely gets you broiling when talking about aristocratic cheekbones and introspective analysis



Isn't the currency electrum? Nobody else in this setting has traded with anything related to copper. And what the hell is the MC thinking about midcoitus?


About the person themselves?
Tobs is a bit of a dick
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I may be hyper critical about Bubs but I'm doing it in a place that I assume not even he is insane enough to try to browse to assuage his ego. Calling out somebody in a very public way is... I mean...

And...
Actually let's stop there.

Tobs is the perfect storm of arrogance. Nobody outside of this space knows or cares about these works. Yet the fellow has the 'I'm never wrong and everything I write is amazing' attitude of somebody who has written award winning stuff.

But hey, at least he delivers works and at least tries with the dungeons.
Excellent write up and summary of essentially 1200 pages of our bitching lol

TiTS is always going to be less spiteful than CoC2 because Fen for all his faults is not Savin.
I'd say it got better with time, Fen wasn't much different. This is the man that rushed the shit out of CoC1 because he got bored and called it a day, and it was under his supervision that Badger was first a thing, without a warning mind you. Fen's issue nowadays is burnout and lack of focus. CoC2 is at least making attemps to continue the story, TiTS would rather just add in a million random NPCs.

Interestingly, this has been a matter of contention in TiTS. Before the overhaul into JS, there was a separate download for an Image Pack that contained higher resolution busts as well as CGs embedded within various scenes. Like CoC2, the TiTS image pack is now part of the base game, which means all players will see these images. Many commissioned CGs in TiTS feature a generic-looking dog-girl named that is technically William's own player character.

At least one major conversation took place with William in the Public FenChat server about this, concerning whether or not players found it immersion breaking. There was all-around agreement that the pictures helped flavor various scenes and represent the logistics. William himself said that the CGs he commissioned were always meant to be visualizations of the scenes as they are written, and that CGs containing Riley are only for player-submissive events. He also said that he uses her because she looks generic, and that despite being an ausar, a player could still see themselves in her place. It bears mentioning that plenty of people said they would have never known about Riley being his if they hadn't joined the Discord server, so it's not unfair to assume that the thousands of silent lurkers funding and enjoying TiTS aren't troubled.

There was also vociferous agreement that people didn't want to see "other cocks" near characters they liked, which is why player-dominant events feature silhouettes and PoVs, like one of the CGs featuring Slyveren. Unlike CoC2, I think it's worth making your voice heard on the matter in TiTS, if you play it. Many of the newer features added to the game have been slotted in by the lead programmer precisely because there was a good faith discussion preceding its inclusion.

That said, unless the scope of these games narrows significantly, the CGs will never be truly accurate to your specific experience and the character you've created. I, for one, would rather have as many CGs as the developers can afford, but with minimal OC-itis.
Wow. I never knew of this. Good write up.

Some CoC2 CGs choose a very safe and riskless method of having a PoV of a somewhat olive skinned character not showing chest or face, so most players can somewhat identify with it unless they play nonhuman. It's limiting, but it ought to be standard.
 
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