Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Azriel Satan]

Something I would like to see one day is a game where you play a party instead of a single custom character; it would make companions like Cait and Quint work better. Though I doubt it would ever be as popular without a main character. It would also be a lot harder to write since it's all in the third person, and you need to worry about relationships between multiple characters instead of just one.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I think they'd just have one bigger stomach that combines horse and human traits.

At first I figured the upper part had a duplicate of everything a human would, but I thought about it. Horse organs are already powering...what, 1500-2000 lbs of horse flesh? What's a human torso, an extra 60 to 120 lbs on top if that? Practically nothing.

You wouldn't need a second set of organs. Maybe certain organs are slightly bigger than the horse equivalent is really all you'd need.

Centaurs may not need a bonus human organs, but they're gonna be an enhancement.
That additional lung capacity is a huge deal, it would allow them to outspeed AND outlast regular horses.

So a set of human organs in the human torso would certainly benefit the centaur.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

You got to be in a relationship or trying to make one to get cucked.
Otherwise you just simp'ing and getting mad about pussy or dick that was never yours. And that is cringe as hell bro.

The tag is there, you're doing an exercise in futility by trying to argue against it.

 

[icecreamman99]

The tag is there, you're doing an exercise in futility by trying to argue against it.

I'm not denying getting cucked is what is in the game
I said that stuff about the quote and what they wrote.

Edit: Also just wanted to clearly express that you don't need a relationship to be cucked. Even irl people with one sided feelings can be cucked. Hope this helps.

 

[bedroomlurker]

I believe that most of this discourse about NTR can be boiled down to the fact that western culture only recognises two facets, cheating and cuckolding. In Japan there are different subgenres. There's netori (protagonist takes antagonist's partner), netorare (antagonist takes protagonist's partner), netorase (protagonist gives partner to antagonist) and even BSS (Even though I loved you first). All of these are different shades of NTR and cuckolding.

Basically everything is just about semantics.

 

[Comiies]

I believe that most of this discourse about NTR can be boiled down to the fact that western culture only recognises two facets, cheating and cuckolding. In Japan there are different subgenres. There's netori (protagonist takes antagonist's partner), netorare (antagonist takes protagonist's partner), netorase (protagonist gives partner to antagonist) and even BSS (Even though I loved you first). All of these are different shades of NTR and cuckolding.

Basically everything is just about semantics.

I just dislike bad writing and since NTR and all its subgenres or whatever are easy to write for AND are the lead writers major fetish the quality gets even lower.That is why i dislike NTR.Because Good NTR hasnt been written yet.Its always the same monotonous "Here is beta cuck MC with his obviously horny GF/Wife.Here is the Bull alpha male chad with a dick that can pierce the heavens.Horny female is attracted to Chad cause Beta cuck cant do shit in bed,so Horny female gets addicted to having sex with Chad.THE END."

Thats the NTR formula.Its boring,its soulless and it only exists for a quick nut of shame.

Like realistically everyone,and i truly mean EVERYONE can write a better NTR story of they actually focus on the characters at play and not just how CHAD is the Bull and how Slutty is the Horny female and how BETA is the beta cuck.It disgusts me to no end smh.

 

[bedroomlurker]

I just dislike bad writing and since NTR and all its subgenres or whatever are easy to write for AND are the lead writers major fetish the quality gets even lower.That is why i dislike NTR.Because Good NTR hasnt been written yet.Its always the same monotonous "Here is beta cuck MC with his obviously horny GF/Wife.Here is the Bull alpha male chad with a dick that can pierce the heavens.Horny female is attracted to Chad cause Beta cuck cant do shit in bed,so Horny female gets addicted to having sex with Chad.THE END."

Thats the NTR formula.Its boring,its soulless and it only exists for a quick nut of shame.

Like realistically everyone,and i truly mean EVERYONE can write a better NTR story of they actually focus on the characters at play and not just how CHAD is the Bull and how Slutty is the Horny female and how BETA is the beta cuck.It disgusts me to no end smh.

Real talk, the best NTR stories are news articles. Change my mind.

 

[Quintilus]

Her looks arnt what people dislike about her its everything else that comes with the character her religion her rampant sluttery
that fact that ''our'' quest is getting her sister back or Savin's desperate attempts to try and turn the town bike into the main love interest

I know that. Thats why I asked 'can her appearance outweigh her personality' not 'would she looks better as *picture*'.

 

[Comiies]

My biggest problem with Cait(and with the game as a whole) is how indecisive Savin is when it comes to her.Let me explain.

At first Cait was pushed as the happy go lucky slutty cat priestess party member(Her religion had subtle undertones of child abuse but shhh) which in itself is cool.Im a big fun of slutty nuns/priestesses so i was pleasantly suprised when i saw her.Afterwards Savin tries really hard to make us care about her child abusing sex religon(for some reason?Ig he needed justification for the temple quest to fit some more scenes) which doesnt work.He tries really hard to push us into building the temple and he even tries to turn Cait into a romancable partner that we love and cherish.THIS is my problem.This indecisiveness.If you want to make a slutty priestess with a questionable religion(Yes im never letting this down) do it.I believe everyone here can agree that Nuns are hot and slutty nuns are even better but not like this.You cant just go from "Slutty nun that wants to fuck everything that moves" to "Romanacable companion that you should love and cherish".By trying to go both ways you lose everything.

Now let me tell you a small story time.A few months ago when i replayed CoC2 i visited Aronas village and interacted with Ifrith and her Master.Now as per in-game orc tradition,I as the dominant mate(I was on sub Arona route) decided to do what every orc does.And i fucked Ifrith.Now i did not know that doing that...locks me out of interacting with both of them.So i went to the discord and shared my grievences to see whats the lore significance of this.Like why are these 2 orcs different than everyone else.To sum up i got fuck all,got the middle finger from everyone there and Savin himself said that this is the way it is "Cause they are different",giving no reason as to why.

Anyways rant over.Wheres my horse cock???

 

[smithsmithsmith]

You wouldn't need a second set of organs. Maybe certain organs are slightly bigger than the horse equivalent is really all you'd need.

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[arcader000]

The tag is there, you're doing an exercise in futility by trying to argue against it.

He ain't arguing against the tag, he's arguing this specific dudes statement

My biggest problem with Cait(and with the game as a whole) is how indecisive Savin is when it comes to her.Let me explain.

At first Cait was pushed as the happy go lucky slutty cat priestess party member(Her religion had subtle undertones of child abuse but shhh) which in itself is cool.Im a big fun of slutty nuns/priestesses so i was pleasantly suprised when i saw her.Afterwards Savin tries really hard to make us care about her child abusing sex religon(for some reason?Ig he needed justification for the temple quest to fit some more scenes) which doesnt work.He tries really hard to push us into building the temple and he even tries to turn Cait into a romancable partner that we love and cherish.THIS is my problem.This indecisiveness.If you want to make a slutty priestess with a questionable religion(Yes im never letting this down) do it.I believe everyone here can agree that Nuns are hot and slutty nuns are even better but not like this.You cant just go from "Slutty nun that wants to fuck everything that moves" to "Romanacable companion that you should love and cherish".By trying to go both ways you lose everything.

Now let me tell you a small story time.A few months ago when i replayed CoC2 i visited Aronas village and interacted with Ifrith and her Master.Now as per in-game orc tradition,I as the dominant mate(I was on sub Arona route) decided to do what every orc does.And i fucked Ifrith.Now i did not know that doing that...locks me out of interacting with both of them.So i went to the discord and shared my grievences to see whats the lore significance of this.Like why are these 2 orcs different than everyone else.To sum up i got fuck all,got the middle finger from everyone there and Savin himself said that this is the way it is "Cause they are different",giving no reason as to why.

Anyways rant over.Wheres my horse cock???

Feel like her problems can be summed up with this game has mediocre world building, and due to her being tied to a religion causes her to be to be directly affected by this. I don't really see an inherent contradiction with getting a romantic bond with a whore, though for me it came across more as becoming BFFs with her then actual romance.
Though I usually roll female or futa champions and skim read shit that ain't porn so my perspective is probably just different.

For the ifrith thing I just assume raping a priestess trainee was taboo even for orcs.

 

[GokutheG]

Would've worked better if Cait was just really faithful, instead of being part of the smut-religion. Then the world building doesn't affect her harshly.

Her religion downplays the whole premise of Kas corrupting this whole new world because you can't get any lower then a religion whose sole purpose is to groom kids into being prostitutes. No amount of hand waving from the devs will get me to buy that the higher ups don't use kids as prostitutes to gain favor from people in power. It doesn't help that the religion's God is actually a world ending threat in disguise.

Honestly I think the story would be more interesting if The Seven were the real villains we had to take down by exposing them.

 

[Selxia]

I apologize for asking this twice, but I never got any replies on my previous question!

I want to make a femboy/trap character, is there a lot of content in the game around that type of MC? I have not played a lot of CoC1 or CoC2 before so I'd love to know before I spend hours on a character that feel unsatisfied x)

 

[Comiies]

Her religion downplays the whole premise of Kas corrupting this whole new world because you can't get any lower then a religion whose sole purpose is to groom kids into being prostitutes. No amount of hand waving from the devs will get me to buy that the higher ups don't use kids as prostitutes to gain favor from people in power. It doesn't help that the religion's God is actually a world ending threat in disguise.

Honestly I think the story would be more interesting if The Seven were the real villains we had to take down by exposing them.

I do love groomer religions.My favourite thing is when Cait herself talks about how she was groomed from a young age!!!

 

[Walk Cycle]

I apologize for asking this twice, but I never got any replies on my previous question!

I want to make a femboy/trap character, is there a lot of content in the game around that type of MC? I have not played a lot of CoC1 or CoC2 before so I'd love to know before I spend hours on a character that feel unsatisfied x)

You can turn yourself into a femboy/trap and get railed as one and the game acknowledges your description as such. So if for example the recent hot-topic of the thread; the Mallachite Priestess Caitriss gives you a blowjob or something, the game describes you as an effeminate male.

 

[GokutheG]

I apologize for asking this twice, but I never got any replies on my previous question!

I want to make a femboy/trap character, is there a lot of content in the game around that type of MC? I have not played a lot of CoC1 or CoC2 before so I'd love to know before I spend hours on a character that feel unsatisfied x)

You can make a feminine guy character. You can also make a trans guy character. I don't think there are any specific scenes based on how masculine a character is but there are scenes based on specific races. If I had to guess I'd say you may want to either start as an elf or catfolk because these races are considered feminine especially the guys. There are a few characters who are really into those specific races I believe. One of them is a futa girl whose really into elves.

I think TiTS may have more scenes that you'll enjoy by playing as a feminine guy. One of the women that you can recruit really enjoys feminine guys i believe. Not only are there scenes based on masculinity/femininity there are also scenes based on the size of your character's junk. Catfolk guys there are also described as being feminine in appearance. There are also transformational items to make him more feminine.

 

[arcader000]

Her religion downplays the whole premise of Kas corrupting this whole new world because you can't get any lower then a religion whose sole purpose is to groom kids into being prostitutes. No amount of hand waving from the devs will get me to buy that the higher ups don't use kids as prostitutes to gain favor from people in power. It doesn't help that the religion's God is actually a world ending threat in disguise.

Honestly I think the story would be more interesting if The Seven were the real villains we had to take down by exposing them.

The fact that there's constant handwaving is what makes it so much worse. The story has the potential to get into some real fucking good conflict, but they just refuse to do it. Pretend there's no problem when addressing the problem is the interesting part.

Simultaneously takes itself way too seriously but not seriously enough doing it that way. What's the point of even bringing up the grooming shit if your not going to address it in any way?

 

[GokutheG]

The fact that there's constant handwaving is what makes it so much worse. The story has the potential to get into some real fucking good conflict, but they just refuse to do it. Pretend there's no problem when addressing the problem is the interesting part.

Simultaneously takes itself way too seriously but not seriously enough doing it that way. What's the point of even bringing up the grooming shit if your not going to address it in any way?

Same reason that they have rape while trying to downplay that as well. It's like they want to have dark themes but immediately water them down when exploring those themes would actually make the game interesting. I'm not sure if the writers are afraid/uninterested in taking on darker subject matter(in the game about corruption) or are they afraid of getting axed from Patreon?

Like imagine how interesting a story could be that while she wasn't used as a politician's plaything due to her status how if she met others(a friend) who was. How would she react to know that not only did her God know but did nothing to stop the abuse. I think a crisis of faith could be interesting.

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

The fact that there's constant handwaving is what makes it so much worse. The story has the potential to get into some real fucking good conflict, but they just refuse to do it. Pretend there's no problem when addressing the problem is the interesting part.

Simultaneously takes itself way too seriously but not seriously enough doing it that way. What's the point of even bringing up the grooming shit if your not going to address it in any way?

Probably just a case of different authors, different visions. I know a lot of lore that the observer writes is at odds with other stuff.

 

[GokutheG]

Probably just a case of different authors, different visions. I know a lot of lore that the observer writes is at odds with other stuff.

Can you point me to some of the lore inconsistencies? I'd like to read them.