Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Knife-wielding crab]

I think to enjoy this game you have to do atleast one of 3 things:
1. Don´t try to self insert into the blob champ.
2. Be very open about your sexuality.
3. Or you just skip all content you don´t want to see (assuming it is properly telegraphed) and just pretend all the other content you couldn´t avoid or didn´t know about, just didn´t happen.

I said "fuck it. I'll write my own porn".

 

[DuckwingQuack]

Did 1 and 3 together, still tapped out. It's like racing under a meteor shower and a flock of pidgeons.

At one point, you just tire of dodging crap and meteorites. Hell, even the part of getting a chubby from it is long gone by that point.

I mean this just happens if you a 100 different fetishes in 1 game. There will certainly be one you don´t like. I just feel like there should be more telegraphing from the writers and then we are good. Maybe some text if you hover over the buttons, which signals what will happen in the scene.

I feel like a vast majority of issues in this game could be avoided if we played as some random joe schmo instead of making a character.

Yeah the "blob champ". Makes it easy to write for, but terribly for roleplaying and inmmersion.
Maybe playing some defined "Joe" would help, but then you have 20 writers who all need to be kept in check to write around that personality. And we would need more than 1 character option.
Or we could have dialogue choices but that would also require a lot of work.

I said "fuck it. I'll write my own porn".

Kinda based. Wish I could do that.

 

[M0nte]

I said "fuck it. I'll write my own porn".

Tell other writers to write more guys bottoming. Thanks.

 

[icecreamman99]

Kinda based. Wish I could do that.

I would say it's quite doable for most people that can understand phaser(?) system they have.
It's not like this game has put forth a standard of many writers that make extensive use it.
You can easily write something safe with broad appeal for this game that they skipped or hasn't done enough of.

I say the biggest problems for writing for this game are
-Why would I do this when it's not guaranteed to get in and getting paid for it, and usually none of that in a timely manner.
-Why aren't you just writing your own stuff for your own project of some sort, if you are willing to learn this system and write you might as well start your own game.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I guess in theory playing like that could work but I feel like any game where I have to tiptoe around content and just accept that i cant have my character act a specific way is poor game design. I feel like a vast majority of issues in this game could be avoided if we played as some random joe schmo instead of making a character.

Removing character creation would alleviate issues. But the most glaring problem is the consistency. Even if we remove ourselves and play a predetermined or simple character. It would still require someone actually putting on the big boy undies and taking control. Making the writers keep things consistent. And to cutback on making their own personal fantasies.

Whether we get to go build-a-bear with a character. Or just get some random. Some writers are still gonna make us a dom, sub, strong, then bitch made. Depending on what they need for whatever they're writing.

 

[Knife-wielding crab]

Tell other writers to write more guys bottoming. Thanks.

Working on it. So far it's me and one other community writer that has that as a special intrest

 

[Ssato243]

fuck this they fucking destroy this game it is not fun for me fuck them I find this game to be frustrating and no longer enjoyable. The changes made have diminished its quality for me. This game is not pleasant for me;

 

[harem.king]

Removing character creation would alleviate issues. But the most glaring problem is the consistency. Even if we remove ourselves and play a predetermined or simple character. It would still require someone actually putting on the big boy undies and taking control. Making the writers keep things consistent. And to cutback on making their own personal fantasies.

Whether we get to go build-a-bear with a character. Or just get some random. Some writers are still gonna make us a dom, sub, strong, then bitch made. Depending on what they need for whatever they're writing.

You have it backwards.
In this game, the problem is the management not the writers.

savin LITERALLY jokes that LITERALLY all the money goes into dickgirl content and he bullies his writers into writing ONLY dickgirl if they want to get paid.

savin is the top project manager. he is the man in charge of this game.

if you see a writer is writing anything other than dickgirl he is likely not even getting paid for their work and doing it just out of affection for the project.

So saying management needs to crack the whip on writers and make them start writing what management wants instead of what the writers want is completely backwards

 

[muschi26]

You have it backwards.
In this game, the problem is the management not the writers.

savin is the top project manager. he is the man in charge of this game.

if you see a writer is writing anything other than dickgirl he is likely not even getting paid for their work and doing it just out of affection for the project.

So saying management needs to crack the whip on writers and make them start writing what management wants instead of what the writers want is completely backwards

I think this game has a wide variety of problems, and pointing out any one thing as the cause of all of them is missing the point.

 

[PixelLewd]

You have it backwards.
In this game, the problem is the management not the writers.

savin is the top project manager. he is the man in charge of this game.


if you see a writer is writing anything other than dickgirl he is likely not even getting paid for their work and doing it just out of affection for the project.

Honestly, its seeing stuff like that, which I can only imagine was in one of the PUBLIC chats of the discord, that makes me wish Savin would be hit by a car(in minecraft) so that maybe he can get a new lease on life. Cause at that point, why(beyond the BRAND ™ ) did he at all bother making a CoC game instead of oh I don't know "Dick Girl Sucker: Be The Cock Cleaner" or some shit

 

[harem.king]

I think this game has a wide variety of problems, and pointing out any one thing as the cause of all of them is missing the point.

It is true it has a wide variety of problems.

But what I was addressing was a proposed solution which would make things worse rather than improve things.

Also, the whole point of being in charge is that it is ultimately your fault. "The buck stops here" as they say.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

You have it backwards.
In this game, the problem is the management not the writers.

savin is the top project manager. he is the man in charge of this game.

if you see a writer is writing anything other than dickgirl he is likely not even getting paid for their work and doing it just out of affection for the project.

So saying management needs to crack the whip on writers and make them start writing what management wants instead of what the writers want is completely backwards

But that doesn't address what I was talking about though. I spoke on consistency not whatever the subject matter was. Whether it is gods forbid 50, 75, or 100% women coming with their own side of sausage. It doesn't change how the champion shifts gears based on the writers. Nor how some of this stuff comes off as more fan faction for said writers. Unless Savin or whoever else themselves, are telling people to do it.

I also didn't say they needed to write what management wanted. Nor did I say I wanted it to be Savin or whoever else. I simply said that someone needs to come put the adult huggies on, because it ain't being done.

 

[jfmherokiller]

Tell other writers to write more guys bottoming. Thanks.

hell just write more men in general PLZ

You have it backwards.
In this game, the problem is the management not the writers.

savin is the top project manager. he is the man in charge of this game.

if you see a writer is writing anything other than dickgirl he is likely not even getting paid for their work and doing it just out of affection for the project.

So saying management needs to crack the whip on writers and make them start writing what management wants instead of what the writers want is completely backwards

ah so Savin is basicly a randy pitchford kind of person.

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

if you see a writer is writing anything other than dickgirl he is likely not even getting paid for their work and doing it just out of affection for the project.

Do they even pay most of the community writers? I think I remember seeing something about Jstar working on commission, but I also recall Aury stating he does it for free.

So I don’t think the general crowd really gets money funneled to them anyways.

 

[Yeppers34]

I mean i think at this point we can all agree that this "game" has failed at every aspect it's tried to achieve. It's failed at being a sequel, it's failed in making your character feel like they matter to the overall plot, it's failed in gameplay and hell it's failed in even feeling like a game anymore. Like when's the last time the story has actually even progressed they've spent more time doing commissions and making one off characters that they might as well just drop the game entirely and just make an AO3 account and post all their scenes there.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I think to enjoy this game you have to do atleast one of 3 things:
1. Don´t try to self insert into the blob champ.
2. Be very open about your sexuality.
3. Or you just skip all content you don´t want to see (assuming it is properly telegraphed) and just pretend all the other content you couldn´t avoid or didn´t know about, just didn´t happen.

In other words dissociate real fucking hard lmao

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

What happens when you got too many cooks in the kitchen. Who all want to do their own dish. But no head chef to tighten shit up. Fully agree when it comes to "our" personality shifts.

Here's the thing bro, there are many games with multiple writers. The problem is that there isn't a proper leader, Savin is not cutout to be that guy; he's middle management at best, he's good at watch boundaries and social pressure, but has piss poor vision and foresight.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Makes it easy to write for, but terribly for roleplaying and inmmersion.
Maybe playing some defined "Joe" would help, but then you have 20 writers who all need to be kept in check to write around that personality. And we would need more than 1 character option.

One Solid character is enough, they have the frame work for making preferences through the parsers and traits system. Honestly the more I look at them and the systems they use the more I think incompetence and pettiness is plaguing the project. Which is weird because ppl are actually paying for this.

Removing character creation would alleviate issues. But the most glaring problem is the consistency. Even if we remove ourselves and play a predetermined or simple character. It would still require someone actually putting on the big boy undies and taking control. Making the writers keep things consistent. And to cutback on making their own personal fantasies.

Whether we get to go build-a-bear with a character. Or just get some random. Some writers are still gonna make us a dom, sub, strong, then bitch made. Depending on what they need for whatever they're writing.

And another thing is that having a solid character might make them look really stupid, think about it; they'll have to write actual character arcs for John Doe, flesh out character aspects, and create compelling character development moments for them. Do these ppl look like they're equipped for that? They barely have a leader.

 

[Yeppers34]

One Solid character is enough, they have the frame work for making preferences through the parsers and traits system. Honestly the more I look at them and the systems they use the more I think incompetence and pettiness is plaguing the project. Which is weird because ppl are actually paying for this.


And another thing is that having a solid character might make them look really stupid, think about it; they'll have to write actual character arcs for John Doe, flesh out character aspects, and create compelling character development moments for them. Do these ppl look like they're equipped for that? They barely have a leader.

And that's the crux of the issue there, like yes having a designated MC could help alleviate the issue of just having this amorphus blob of an MC that changes who they are to fit the situation we currently have but like you mentioned that would require them having to flesh out that character and develop them as the story progresses...which unfortunately there's no one like that on that team who could accomplish that. They've been allowed to coast along releasing these sub par updates for to long that I feel they're truly incapable of actually putting forth effort.

 

[GokutheG]

But that doesn't address what I was talking about though. I spoke on consistency not whatever the subject matter was. Whether it is gods forbid 50, 75, or 100% women coming with their own side of sausage. It doesn't change how the champion shifts gears based on the writers. Nor how some of this stuff comes off as more fan faction for said writers. Unless Savin or whoever else themselves, are telling people to do it.

I also didn't say they needed to write what management wanted. Nor did I say I wanted it to be Savin or whoever else. I simply said that someone needs to come put the adult huggies on, because it ain't being done.

I think the problem is that the mc IS written consistently. Consistent with what Savin and the writers want the champion to be. The champion is a bi/pan switch in the canon of the story. It's why no mater how dominant your champion is with one character they are also able to be a massive bottom to another because they are actually a switch. It's also why no matter how straight you might want him or how gay I want her they will always be written in a way where they are sexually attracted to someone you wouldn't want them to be.

I think that trying to keep the defeat scenes from being explicitly rape this is the path Savin took. ''It can't be rape if the mc is sexually into everyone.''