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Hmmm... this question might lead to a Pandora's Box blowing up in my face...

Screw it, I'm posting it anyway.


Can anyone tell me here of who TOBS is and what they have done to gain the ire of everyone here in this thread?
Just asking doesn't do things justice. If you have a bit of time and some spare popcorn. Search him up in this thread and immerse yourself in the lore. Let yourself go down the eventual rabbit hole that is this game. I give you a fat boy guarantee that all this shit is pure comedy. There's enough entertaining content within these pages. To where you could consider this thread a whole separate spin-off text game.
 

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Just asking doesn't do things justice. If you have a bit of time and some spare popcorn. Search him up in this thread and immerse yourself in the lore. Let yourself go down the eventual rabbit hole that is this game. I give you a fat boy guarantee that all this shit is pure comedy. There's enough entertaining content within these pages. To where you could consider this thread a whole separate spin-off text game.
Call it "The Tragedy of Tobs: Avatar of Spite", lolz

Because he himself said it several times, with other coc2 devteam members reaffirming it? And he sometimes speaks in mandarin. Tobs is Tobs, but he usually doesn't lie.
Mhmm, interesting but whats with the Japanese hate tho? Its not like he was there or informed about their atrocities and the Chinese are the last ppl tht should be wagging their finger on egregious national activities, I just think he needs an editor that knows when to tell him to stop inserting his opinions
 

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Mhmm, interesting but whats with the Japanese hate tho? Its not like he was there or informed about their atrocities and the Chinese are the last ppl tht should be wagging their finger on egregious national activities, I just think he needs an editor that knows when to tell him to stop inserting his opinions
The Chinese still haven't forgiven the Japanese for what they did before and during WW2, the countries have a fairly high degree of distrust and hatred between the two. The other East-Asian countries are a bit more split, but there is still a very large amount of animus among the older populations. This is getting pretty off topic from the porn game though.
 

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How do ya'll feel about pregnancy content?
Oh goody gumdrops, a question that is perfect for little ol' me. I like it in general but it does depends on the content. Sticking gooey buns in random ovens, just for the sake of it. Is kinda dull for me. Like don't get me wrong. I have no issue with breeding just because. Gwyneth is pretty much a womb on legs and I think her content is pretty hot. Whole dad thing was kinda weird though. Wish we could've stamped that out with the whole her wanting to be claimed thing, but alright. But as much as I like to spray the secret sauce. Random pregnancy with NPCs, to get generic child #333, ain't really appealing. I'm in a similar boat as Biostar. Give me a little bit more meaning to those little bundles of future abandonment.
 

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Kinda don't like that most of Kiyoko's content, including getting her as a follower, is locked behind her preg content.
 

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Oh goody gumdrops, a question that is perfect for little ol' me. I like it in general but it does depends on the content. Sticking gooey buns in random ovens, just for the sake of it. Is kinda dull for me. Like don't get me wrong. I have no issue with breeding just because. Gwyneth is pretty much a womb on legs and I think her content is pretty hot. Whole dad thing was kinda weird though. Wish we could've stamped that out with the whole her wanting to be claimed thing, but alright. But as much as I like to spray the secret sauce. Random pregnancy with NPCs, to get generic child #333, ain't really appealing. I'm in a similar boat as Biostar. Give me a little bit more meaning to those little bundles of future abandonment.
Yeah cause Lets be real; no-one not even in fiction can someone take care of 30+ kids with it devolving into cartoon nonsense, literally not possible. I don't mind being the "anime abandonment dad" but the narrative/writers aren't self-aware enough to allow for that.
 
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Yeah cause Lets be real; no-one not even in fiction can someone take care of 30+ kids with it devolving into cartoon nonsense, literally not possible. I don't mind being the "anime abandonment dad" but the narrative/writers aren't self-aware enough to allow for that.
Even with Kinu stepping up to act as effectively a 3rd parent to all her younger siblings, there'd still be cartoon nonsense with the amount of kids you have to make Kiyoko pop out to at minimum max out the tail count for her bust images. And that's just for the Kiyoko repeat preggings, where the kids stay with their mom (rather than imps that are born already ready to cause chaos and running off right away, Tanuki babies getting sent off to the Tanuki house where there's at least a bunch of older sisters who are already old enough to help care for more siblings, or Hornet babies that are the same deal as the Tanuki babies but with the Hornet Hive instead of the Tanuki House). Gwyn is an even bigger issue where there's no one to step up and fill in as an extra "parent", she's doing all the work solo, with potentially hundreds to even thousands of children needing taken care of.
 

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Even with Kinu stepping up to act as effectively a 3rd parent to all her younger siblings, there'd still be cartoon nonsense with the amount of kids you have to make Kiyoko pop out to at minimum max out the tail count for her bust images. And that's just for the Kiyoko repeat preggings, where the kids stay with their mom (rather than imps that are born already ready to cause chaos and running off right away, Tanuki babies getting sent off to the Tanuki house where there's at least a bunch of older sisters who are already old enough to help care for more siblings, or Hornet babies that are the same deal as the Tanuki babies but with the Hornet Hive instead of the Tanuki House). Gwyn is an even bigger issue where there's no one to step up and fill in as an extra "parent", she's doing all the work solo, with potentially hundreds to even thousands of children needing taken care of.
Personally Think there should be a hard limit on how many kids you can have or have the character canonically be a deadbeat to most side characters. The Nursery should've been Town upgrades instead of just Gwyn getting money because you end up paying like 50k for a music room, tht makes no sense, tht more than the entire towns income.
 
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Personally Think there should be a hard limit on how many kids you can have or have the character canonically be a deadbeat to most side characters.
This is that anti-power fantasy mindset the devs like to use. So what if it’s cartoon nonsense? Let me live the fantasy of bearing hundreds of kids who all respect and love me despite dropping in occasionally.
 

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Either go big or go home. Genghis Khan is my role model.
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It appears I have much to learn. I bow in respect for a true master.
So I need to explain what is about to be shown.
This is from my original character. Like I've been using them since the first public build of the game.

Turns out that the corrupted dragon breeder numbers were broke as hell especially with how busted my character was for the game since I had them for so long. Like it made the feracity a stupid broken number when I transformed and I didn't realize till my character laid that many eggs.
That one wasn't even from save editing. It was actually a bug. Like it was already high just from playing so long, like it was above the usual max you can get in game. The transformation made it like 10 digits.

Like they've been saved edited to hell and back cause of shit breaking or being locked from my character being so old, but that wasn't me. I just need to explain these numbers cause the dragon one is so ridiculous.

This is also just a save I had made just to prove I had these numbers, the actual nursery count is 955.


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A quadrillion Eggs, Warp space womb cus holy fuck.
I legit could not even get a picture of the numbers that made this happen cause they were overlapping all the text and unreadable. It was insane how bad I broke the corrupted dragon transformation.
 

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tbh I never blame writers.

TOBS problem isn't that he's a spiteful asshole or that he wrote a scene a certain way. You can't please everyone, and tbh it's hard interacting with folks.

The problem is that he doesn't have anyone really managing his potential and putting him on smart plays. As people have said, the early Kiyoko stuff is excellent, but he struggles when writing into singular scenes. So have him working on similar setups with other characters/ideas where he's making these big side quest style chains for something.

He's not a bad writer, he's a poorly utilized writer because he doesn't have someone managing him well. Which is causing the community to lash out at him, which makes it harder and harder to give a fuck. Nobody leaves happy.

It's the biggest problem with CoC2 and it's harder to really get then just blaming Savin or blaming TOBS. Savin IS a great writer, and produced a lot of great stuff for 1 and 2. TOBs IS a great writer. But you can't just have writers doing whatever they want, you need to have someone with a plan who is prepping them and playing their strengths. And while Savin is a great writer, he's not great at managing a project like this.

It just leads to a situation where the community and the writers are constantly at each others throats because neither side is happy.
 

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TOBS problem isn't that he's a spiteful asshole or that he wrote a scene a certain way. You can't please everyone, and tbh it's hard interacting with folks.
It literally is. He himself called Kinu a spite project and its only the second time he's done this. You can totally blame the writers for having motivations to piss off their audience.
 

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This is also just a save I had made just to prove I had these numbers, the actual nursery count is 955.


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Damn. i was about to post mine to flex my numbers just for fun, but now i dont think anyone can beat

Here is mine in comparison, while the number is still pretty big i think the most impressive feat is amount of different species (it took the whole page)
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also just realized the Nursery doesnt count kitsunes, imps or the manticores from the windy peaks, while it makes sense since they arent part of the nursery, but i always thought this screen showed ALL your kids
 

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tbh I never blame writers.

TOBS problem isn't that he's a spiteful asshole or that he wrote a scene a certain way. You can't please everyone, and tbh it's hard interacting with folks.

The problem is that he doesn't have anyone really managing his potential and putting him on smart plays. As people have said, the early Kiyoko stuff is excellent, but he struggles when writing into singular scenes. So have him working on similar setups with other characters/ideas where he's making these big side quest style chains for something.

He's not a bad writer, he's a poorly utilized writer because he doesn't have someone managing him well. Which is causing the community to lash out at him, which makes it harder and harder to give a fuck. Nobody leaves happy.
This is some "peak" apologist shit right here with no ground to stand on with the facts that it's for a person that said it themselves that the made things as a spite project and another as a salt mine for the people that would be playing the game. People even got screen shoots and proof to back that up and them doing it in another game.
How isn't it a huge problem that you have a writer that is 100% confirmed making content to spite the players of the game.

And for the point about them not being a bad writer. While personally I think they are bad to mediocre and specialize in making all-right to decent quality writing for this game when it comes to certain themes. It shouldn't be a surprise that people would consider them a bad writer and even more so when you point out yourself that "he struggles when writing into singular scenes." What good writer struggles with writing singular scenes?

And you said their skills lay in "working on similar setups with other characters/ideas where he's making these big side quest style chains for something", when the most of those things we're received with bad to mixed reception. 1; Kinu the spite project that is poorly written and your forced to play as them. 2; after dungeon fox den which they called the salt mine. 3; the wolf mom Gwenyr(?) where you kill teens and are forced play as them and your PC's interactions being pointless. 4; the whore'ing temple for the sex god where you pay for sex in a sex game and if you knock them up after for paying for it they keep the kids and if they don't want to live by the teaching of the whore'ing temple they get kicked out.

I think the only non mixed reception stuff they did was "big side quest style chains for something" was goo cat priest and if you combine the foxes with the one-off content. That's a fucking awful track record for being "good" something even more so in a fantasy porn game when "fan-bait" topics are easy to come by and put out and be received well with ease. Look at Savin.

He's not a bad writer, he's a poorly utilized writer because he doesn't have someone managing him well. Which is causing the community to lash out at him, which makes it harder and harder to give a fuck. Nobody leaves happy.

It's the biggest problem with CoC2 and it's harder to really get then just blaming Savin or blaming TOBs. Savin IS a great writer, and produced a lot of great stuff for 1 and 2. TOBs IS a great writer. But you can't just have writers doing whatever they want, you need to have someone with a plan who is prepping them and playing their strengths. And while Savin is a great writer, he's not great at managing a project like this.

It just leads to a situation where the community and the writers are constantly at each others throats because neither side is happy.
WHAT?!
This person is cooked, the amount of cope in this post, they are saying things like Savin and TOBS IS a great writer while going on to to make counter points against TOBS and trying say it's a good thing.
This mother fucker out here writing stuff up and ending up giving the same feeling of car salesmen that's legally can't lie to you but is trying to sell a shit box and frame it bad points as great aspects for that car.

LOL, "TOBs IS a great writer" but needs someone to tell them what their strengths are.
What great writer needs "to have someone with a plan who is prepping them and playing their strengths" to make fitting content for this game, if they need that much micromanagement then they are a bad writer for this game. That shit is a choice and if it not they are stupid or blind to how the game works. But those pervious points in this part I just made don't matter because all of the main writing team has made content that fits the game, all most all of their content fits the game with TOBS being the outlier and dropping a Japan/Asian colony in a place that doesn't make sense. That the topic cohesiveness in this project and while cohesiveness is a good part of being a great writer, it is not solely what makes a great writer. The project CoC2 is a hot mess of management but that doesn't mean you can't see the quality of their writing skills in the projects that the made. And TOBS is some of the worse of the main team having poor interactivity, being actively bad, being actively hostile and still poorly written, has mixed and bad reception.

Where are you seeing this great writer TOBS because so far I have only seen them do above average with fox wife and other foxes, goo-cat, bath sheep and all those are the same thing of pregnancy as a center pillar of their content. TOBS being above average at one thing isn't much of great writer.
 
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