Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Aliii]

No, you clearly argued for demons to coexist freely among normal people. I.E. keep spreading their corruption.
Now you're backing down and moving goalposts.


Last I checked demons were neither a nation nor an ethnic group. And people aren't born demons, it's a fucking plague that forcefully corrupts people and turns them into demons. Akin to bubonic plague, and it should be treated accordingly.


The only irony here is how shitty your manipulation tactics are.

Same as her oc lol

 

[BiffBlastcheese]

Still mad they downgraded that femboy wizard

I remain convinced that was a concentrated effort from Quintillus' writer because they (incorrectly) believed Quin would be more popular if Berwyn wasn't around and hated that Wyn was the more liked femboy despite insisting Quin is merely a twink and not trying to be/able to be confused for a girl. Also, didn't have the same appeal considering his writer insisted Quin was 100% straight while Berwyn was, at least on paper, bi thanks to his changes I personally feel not really, he never got content suggesting he enjoyed gay sex until I guess the ruination? But Quin was always a shit character, removing his "competition" doesn't change that. So it's just more wasted slots that are supposedly limited, but what else is new and not messy about this game?

 

[GS21]

I think all the leaders so far are wack, pathetic, and/or incompetent in this game.

They said that they didn't want it to be power fantasy for the PC but yet they send so much time making so many characters that are unimpressive, pathetic, and/or incompetent. So many characters are just expected to be liked despite not doing anything or worse. Which is crazy when they make so many dom characters but they they can't give the PC any reason worth a damn to sub to that dom character when they have not did anything or worse.

My disdain for futa horsecock aside, I think this sums it up pretty damn well. The absolute 180 they have the PC do whenever they interact with any of their special futacock OCs is jarring
Sometimes the only option is genuinely just turning around and spreading your cheeks, regardless if your PC has bested them or whatever, such as the case with the stupid futa horsecock gladiator
"No, your only option is sucking the horsecock" kind of feeling

 

[namelessone22]

I've probably missed this being discussed - but how do I get the new Yvild content going?
The 'Feast for Heroes' was the ball in Khor'minos afaik - so that's done.
Went to the Kervus camp with Arona (sub) in party - went to chieftain's tent - no new options.
Took Arona out of party - went to tent - no new options.
Went to Inn at the camp with & without Arona - talked to Yvild - no new options?

A little help, please?

 

[icecreamman99]

Jstar18H
Is there ever going to be femdom content for femPC with corrupt wolves, because that feels like huge miss.

Spoiler: my post on why

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[icecreamman99]

I've probably missed this being discussed - but how do I get the new Yvild content going?
The 'Feast for Heroes' was the ball in Khor'minos afaik - so that's done.
Went to the Kervus camp with Arona (sub) in party - went to chieftain's tent - no new options.
Took Arona out of party - went to tent - no new options.
Went to Inn at the camp with & without Arona - talked to Yvild - no new options?

A little help, please?

Went to arona[sub] tent, even came up with a letter from KM king. Got 3 options and i picked to accepted the deal, text said Yvild now can get pregnant. A new service option from Hreatha[?] [orc shaman] to get a blessing to breed Yvild.
I assume the rest of the content is involving them being pregnant and after as was posted earlier.
You might need to talk to Yvild and do all their talks and shit and fuck them.
i also saw a scene that required both the player and Yvild to be preg and arona to be a follower

 

[K1ng_C00mer]

My disdain for futa horsecock aside, I think this sums it up pretty damn well. The absolute 180 they have the PC do whenever they interact with any of their special futacock OCs is jarring
Sometimes the only option is genuinely just turning around and spreading your cheeks, regardless if your PC has bested them or whatever, such as the case with the stupid futa horsecock gladiator
"No, your only option is sucking the horsecock" kind of feeling

Yeah that's my feelings too on the matter. CoC I and early TiTs had scenes where you saw a fetish or person propositioning to you and your PC would have options to react to it. "Hell yeah, let's fukk." "Meh. Maybe later." "Ew, gross!"

Here, the reactions are baked into the dialogue. "You see a big dick futa, and instantly your mouth starts watering as you imagine getting bent over and ravaged."

Like shut the fuck up! Stop putting words into my player's mouth! Really, the only reason is pure laziness. There's a mentality of,, the players are into this, so it's okay to just put this in the main text.

It's bad enough they all write the Champ and even companions different depending on the writer, from Tob's bumbling oaf PC, to SKOW's sparkly sapphic polycule PC.

Spoiler: Evelyn Rant

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[ChubbyFatBoy]

Yeah that's my feelings too on the matter. CoC I and early TiTs had scenes where you saw a fetish or person propositioning to you and your PC would have options to react to it. "Hell yeah, let's fukk." "Meh. Maybe later." "Ew, gross!"

Here, the reactions are baked into the dialogue. "You see a big dick futa, and instantly your mouth starts watering as you imagine getting bent over and ravaged."

Like shut the fuck up! Stop putting words into my player's mouth! Really, the only reason is pure laziness. There's a mentality of,, the players are into this, so it's okay to just put this in the main text.

It's bad enough they all write the Champ and even companions different depending on the writer, from Tob's bumbling oaf PC, to SKOW's sparkly sapphic polycule PC.

Spoiler: Evelyn Rant

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I've said a few times that the Champ is default omnisexual (and I just learned after being curious. That is indeed a real thing... not sure why I'm surprised.), with the only thing keeping them from living their best life. Coming out the closet doing their best YMCA routine. Is the dirty players denying them the cock, tentacles, and other phallic shaped things they truly desire. So I do appreciate when the writers allow the Champ to approach this stuff more neutrally.

You get used to it after being blasted with it all the time. But I remember my many earlier inner thoughts and a few ones that slipped out my mouth. Pondering why do I need such vivid detail of everyone's cock and balls. And why is this dialogue written like my mind's already made up about getting a taste.

 

[Quintilus]

why is this dialogue written like my mind's already made up about getting a taste

 

[icecreamman99]

I've said a few times that the Champ is default omnisexual (and I just learned after being curious. That is indeed a real thing... not sure why I'm surprised.), with the only thing keeping them from living their best life. Coming out the closet doing their best YMCA routine. Is the dirty players denying them the cock, tentacles, and other phallic shaped things they truly desire. So I do appreciate when the writers allow the Champ to approach this stuff more neutrally.

You get used to it after being blasted with it all the time. But I remember my many earlier inner thoughts and a few ones that slipped out my mouth. Pondering why do I need such vivid detail of everyone's cock and balls. And why is this dialogue written like my mind's already made up about getting a taste.

Yeah and it's been pointed that there are options where the PC can go no their not into this. It's just laziness like I, others, and K1ng_C00mer has said it's just laziness on most of the writers side. They did this in coc, tits, and way more so in coc2. Consistency and adhering to a format or their own rules has never been strong point of any of these games. Sometimes the writers remember certain PC my have differing taste but it's so much easier just to make something once with no variations and apply it to every PC.
They can't even remember their own characters and what the said about them even when it's in the same patch release like Isadora gangbang. And Savin made that, the lead of this game. In coc2 the PC's possible preferences are only put in when whatever writer remembers but with so many just indulging in their own character creations despite whether it makes sense for them or not despite being written otherwise.

 

[namelessone22]

Went to arona[sub] tent, even came up with a letter from KM king. Got 3 options and i picked to accepted the deal, text said Yvild now can get pregnant. A new service option from Hreatha[?] [orc shaman] to get a blessing to breed Yvild.
I assume the rest of the content is involving them being pregnant and after as was posted earlier.
You might need to talk to Yvild and do all their talks and shit and fuck them.
i also saw a scene that required both the player and Yvild to be preg and arona to be a follower

Hang-on - the letter from the King isn't a new option that they've just put in to the ball that was finished ages ago, is it?
(the 'Feast For Heroes' was the 'ball event' where you meet the KM king & the Princess?)

 

[icecreamman99]

Hang-on - the letter from the King isn't a new option that they've just put in to the ball that was finished ages ago, is it?
(the 'Feast For Heroes' was the 'ball event' where you meet the KM king & the Princess?)

I'm pretty sure it's new since Altruism did the whole post on it and stuff.

 

[icecreamman99]

Hang-on - the letter from the King isn't a new option that they've just put in to the ball that was finished ages ago, is it?
(the 'Feast For Heroes' was the 'ball event' where you meet the KM king & the Princess?)

i meant you get the letter after the ball at arona's tent

 

[Alterism]

You could argue that if we consider the restriction of personal freedoms in human law to be a just form of order, then direct control over demons is also just if it's the only practical solution to ensure peace. It's a fine line between order and tyranny, with the only real deciding factor being how effective the illusion of choice and freedom is.

You would need the kind of monitoring I'm assuming only the seven can consistently levy.

Spoiler: more things about demons

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I could buy something approximating a "lord of demons" ending working in CoC1 by usurping the throne and establishing yourself on the old powerbase where demons would just 'go with the flow.' But, even in CoC2's setting we've met half a dozen demons who are just doing their own thing detached from the ongoing power struggles showing quite clearly that a cohesive effort to control all of demon kind, even when it's potentially to their advantage, isn't really going to be a thing through force (or manipulation) alone.

Like I said in my previous post, if the player decided that demons were an existential risk, they'd be within their right to eradicate them.

Still there's all kinds of other things I used to think about a lot.

Spoiler: old thoughts

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Is this how it works? Was it lack of foresight? Probably!
Just food for thought.

Unless the devs are willing to come here themselves and endure the waves of shit being thrown at them in the name of bridge building I don't think it's ever going to happen.

The entire reason I even post here is that it's free of dev input so I don't have to worry about rubbing somebody the wrong way or getting dogpiled by sycophants. A lot of threads on this website have dev interaction and I feel irrationally squeamish even giving an honest review. The only other game I reviewed semi poorly (it was a 4) where I said the game "is great but due to how the plot seems to be progressing I decided wasn't for me" the dev reached out, to me, and assured me that I'd have choice where I thought I wouldn't. In hindsight, I'm glad I returned because the endings were all great

Spoiler: other various fridge thoughts

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Mind you, all of this is to say I agree with you.
But this is all without addressing the elephant in the room.

Spoiler: another squish

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Long after I and most of the others present here stop having fun due to a loss of interest and ChubbyFatBoy becomes the most 'senior' poster (assuming they don't abscond at the same time we do) in the thread, I don't think there's ever going to be any common ground for a thread in which the negativity was a collaborative effort between thread, devs, and (what once was) stout fans and carried over through multiple different 'generations' of posters.

 

[namelessone22]

i meant you get the letter after the ball at arona's tent

PC is male, Arona is sub&preg, still doesn't trigger.
(I have a save before Princess Varena's? quest with the crates at the docks, but I have no idea if I have a save shortly before the ball)
Is there a 'flag' I can change with a save editor or something?

 

[icecreamman99]

PC is male, Arona is sub&preg, still doesn't trigger.
(I have a save before Princess Varena's? quest with the crates at the docks, but I have no idea if I have a save shortly before the ball)
Is there a 'flag' I can change with a save editor or something?

All i can say my Arona or Hreatha wasn't pregnant, other than that i can't help.

 

[dolosolo]

Pondering why do I need such vivid detail of everyone's cock and balls

sexual allure from someone who looks more than they touch. maybe its how they visualize characterization.

 

[namelessone22]

All i can say my Arona or Hreatha wasn't pregnant, other than that i can't help.

Hmm - I think they both are at the moment.
Also, it was a while back, but I don't remember taking Arona to the ball - or if you got a choice.
Don't remember any dialogue about the tribe either (at the ball)
If it's just something new they've put in that triggers as long as you've 'finished' the ball ages ago - maybe I just wait until they're not preggo anymore? (hopefully)
Thanks for the help - will see if that fixes it.

Edit: No difference at all

 

[icecreamman99]

B's imp covers several topics in ways that people are always bemoaning and it did literally 0 damage to board demoralization.

Hey, hey... I praised B's imp and Jstar wolf cave.
And B is the only only being focused on the corruption projects and Jstar, Knife Crab has been great lately. But damn they only make up a small part the writing roster and non of the main team.

But true, most of the time we gotta wait for the main team to put out something strangely pleasant like orc skald expansion and not what will most likely be Savin next red head something or Cait.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Damn, the whole thread has probably put more thought into this plot and world than the Dev team. Lol