Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[icecreamman99]

ohhhh shit i came back just in time

The problem shemale or herm in CoC2 is that most of them are just another hard-dom shemale or herm that doesn't do anything but your PC is expected to sub to them. Also if they have a pussy they treat it like a after thought and most of them have have ridiculous size tits but don't use them.

These mf'er can't even make use of the aspects of shemale or herm properly and instead focus just on their dick.

 

[icecreamman99]

Also most shemale or herm creators for some reason mostly keep making shemale or herm characters dominate masters of sex yet they only use their dick and somehow all most all of them skip over the fact they got two sets of sex organs but they mention or somehow they don't get over stimulated and cum quick.

If your a creator and your just skip most aspects of a theme, aspect, prominent feature, and etc of something you probably should ask "why am I even doing this content."
I've seen random ads that make more use of the aspects and depth of shemale or herm than most creators. Couldn't be me being beat by the creativity of an ad that share and competes with ad slot with things like boner pills, single hots in my area, and shit ai porn.

 

[M0nte]

I do still think, actually I know since I engaged with every NPC to at least some extent, that cis women are still the one predominently content hogs.

People are just being disengenious since when they say that "there are not enough developed women in CoC2" I take it as "there are not enough women I am interested in personally."

Tobs writes a woman -- "Oh I do not care about her since she is Tobs OC"

Savin writes a woman -- "Oh, there will be cuck content (probably) so I do not care about it."

B writes a furry gal -- "Not into furries"

Everyone else writes a woman -- "Crickets"

And look, its fine if you dislike how the individual writer handles their NPCs, but just because you choose to ignore them does not mean that they do not exist.

Frankly, I just think cis women lovers are more then spoiled for options.

 

[daboss456]

From what I can tell the issue isn't with futas but specifically wsan's futas which are almost all hyper dom never bottom type characters. It's extra poignant because where most characters with little to no substance end being for forgotten and abandoned wsan will spend multiple months just adding more content to them while neglecting all of his other characters. You don't really see that from the other writers nearly all of the other dickgirls written will leave entirely up to the player whether they top or bottom. Wsan is the only one who constantly puts futadom content at the exclusion of everything else.

 

[daboss456]

People are just being disengenious since when they say that "there are not enough developed women in CoC2" I take it as "there are not enough women I am interested in personally."

Who is saying there aren't enough developed women in CoC2?

 

[Jbuster]

From what I can tell the issue isn't with futas but specifically wsan's futas which are almost all hyper dom never bottom type characters. It's extra poignant because where most characters with little to no substance end being for forgotten and abandoned wsan will spend multiple months just adding more content to them while neglecting all of his other characters. You don't really see that from the other writers nearly all of the other dickgirls written will leave entirely up to the player whether they top or bottom. Wsan is the only one who constantly puts futadom content at the exclusion of everything else.

I agree, also, I think Savin did a good job with Arona and Kasyrra, I like them a lot

I'll stand them no matter what

 

[M0nte]

Who is saying there aren't enough developed women in CoC2?

People here.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

People here.

Are those people in the same room with us right now?

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I'm seeing a lot lies/biases in play right now or at the very least some of you guys here are being very disingenuous. Whenever the conversation on Futa comes, there's always a group that tries to say ppl don't know what they are saying and feeling.

Ppl feel that the Futas get a lot more focus and fleshing out than baseline females, which a lot of different ppl have pointed out to be factual. Most futas in the game get content prominents and most position themselves as tops with poultry support for players that want to be tops or roleplay as a traditional guy.
Worse is that you don't get to do the stuff that they do in the game world and worse yet if you do get it to its half-assed (looking at the dungeon play at Wayford). I call tht super-special OC treatment.

Personally I'm not into Futa unless it really peaks my interest; her character design is fly, she's written in an interesting way, her character acts as a foil for mine. If it ain't obvious I'm apart of the "looks female enough" crowd. But even if I'm looking for excuses to indulge, the variety is so lacking tht you could copy paste excerpts from "different" futas and not notice a difference in the scene. I don't play the game nowadays but back when I did, barring Ryn, I never interact with them or try my best to limit my interaction.

 

[M0nte]

Are those people in the same room with us right now?
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You want me to call out individuals here? Ain't one of the predominent counterargumets to "it is factually correct that there more cis women then futa" the one that says "but futa get more content/they are more developed." Which is still wrong.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Tobs writes a woman -- "Oh I do not care about her since she is Tobs OC"

Mayumi bows towards you, insistant that her behavior is perfectly acceptable and there will likely be not much of an issue as you continue spending time with her.

"Indeed, the sky is beautiful. Now sit down as I discuss my thesis on the aspects of sumo on the pre-World War 2 days in Japan under an allegory that I've whipped up for the next two hours."

Savin writes a woman -- "Oh, there will be cuck content (probably) so I do not care about it."

Lani smiles at the silly idea that she would betray your trust.

"Oh, hardly, man. I'm 100% sure team 'I'm A Moron' and will always be. By the way, do you sleep with your back to the wall?"

A massive tent rises from her shorts. Apparently Kassyra used the curse of Ytilibatciderp on Lani and the only way she can lose it is if she blows a load up your holes for the next seven hours! How silly!

Everyone else writes a woman -- "Crickets"

Hard to complain about something decent, though.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Am I part of a minority that doesn't mind the futa content? Genuinely asking. That said It seems like the go to patch is either pregnancy or futafication of a pre-existing character or something that encourages dickening of the player so maybe that's where the fatigue comes from?

I have no issue with futa content. I just have no interest in the dick part. So that whole front end and any content for it, will remain unused. It's why I have no issue with the idea of taking a big pair of scissors to all of them. I already treat em like it ain't there anyway. If I find a character interesting enough and they ain't trying to force it on me, I can overlook it. Otherwise I don't bother.

Also goddamn. I normally just lurk at times but keep up to date with things. But I take a lil break from the thread and now I gotta play catch up to see what all I missed. Now I'm acutely aware of how much we talk in this bitch. Now I'm kinda wondering who got more text content. Us in this thread or the game . Though we definitely win out in entertainment.

 

[Jbuster]

Mayumi bows towards you, insistant that her behavior is perfectly acceptable and there will likely be not much of an issue as you continue spending time with her.

"Indeed, the sky is beautiful. Now sit down as I discuss my thesis on the aspects of sumo on the pre-World War 2 days in Japan under an allegory that I've whipped up for the next two hours."



Lani smiles at the silly idea that she would betray your trust.

"Oh, hardly, man. I'm 100% sure team 'I'm A Moron' and will always be. By the way, do you sleep with your back to the wall?"

A massive tent rises from her shorts. Apparently Kassyra used the curse of Ytilibatciderp on Lani and the only way she can lose it is if she blows a load up your holes for the next seven hours! How silly!



Hard to complain about something decent, though.

Imagine you save a sexy fox girl and next thing you know you realize you're walking into a twisted version of memoirs of a geisha, in which you're some kind of washed up slob always wondering if this people actually likes you, and the only time they're almost honest is when you rearrange their guts as they talk about poetry and fruits

Now I'm not saying they are all terrible, but they are what they are

For the second scenario I'll cast Cait in cum sponge mode, and end my turn

 

[daboss456]

Ppl feel that the Futas get a lot more focus and fleshing out than baseline females, which a lot of different ppl have pointed out to be factual.

They don't though. Kiyoko to this day eclipses every other character in the game in terms of content regardless of what anyone says to the contrary with Cait and Brienne being a somewhat distant second and third. 3/4 of all the unique children go to female characters with lots of interactions and more like Ylvid and Drifa are getting fleshed out with more scenes.

Most futas in the game get content prominents and most position themselves as tops with poultry support for players that want to be tops or roleplay as a traditional guy.
Worse is that you don't get to do the stuff that they do in the game world and worse yet if you do get it to its half-assed (looking at the dungeon play at Wayford). I call tht super-special OC treatment.

Again you're specifically talking about Wsan's futas. He'll come with months worth of content expansions for his futa characters who exclusively top and rips control out the players hand to mold them into a subby bitch to fit his personal fantasy. This isn't a thing with "most" futas it's a thing with HIS futas.

You want me to call out individuals here? Ain't one of the predominent counterargumets to "it is factually correct that there more cis women then futa" the one that says "but futa get more content/they are more developed." Which is still wrong.

Yeah I guess I can see your point. It helps to be more specific with arguments like these because when we just point fingers at "writers" and "futas" it leaves a lot up to interpretation. In my mind this whole debacle was never about there being to many futas or them getting to much content OR there being not enough women. People just couldn't articulate that they have a problem with a specific writer being very prolific about a specific fetish and the way they go about writing it into the game.

 

[icecreamman99]

I agree, also, I think Savin did a good job with Arona and Kasyrra, I like them a lot

I'll stand them no matter what
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Did a good job with Arona?
The character that attacks and tries to rapes the PC multiple times and fails. But then the game force you into accepting a quest where they asks the PC for help to be put in charge of the the people that are here rape and enslave after failing to rape and rob the PC.
Arona the character by their own words, logic, and culture the PC should be able to do whatever you wish to them but the PC can only soft-dom them and even puts the PC on the spot in front of a crowd despite being the PC's sub. While if they was dominant they get to do all sorts of Hard dom action and get to proclaim all sorts of action they will be doing to the PC now and in the future.

Unless your talking about the quality of the writing for each scene, if not then Arona is one of the poster child for what's wrong with this game. A herm OC character that the PC has less than no reason to like but the writing forces this character onto the player and tries to force them into being a party member. And despite having 2 different states one is deeply treated like an after thought and warped so the PC can't be mean to a OC character like they was and can be to the PC.

This man is cooked

 

[icecreamman99]

You want me to call out individuals here? Ain't one of the predominent counterargumets to "it is factually correct that there more cis women then futa" the one that says "but futa get more content/they are more developed." Which is still wrong.

Those people are high off there own internet rage and are pointing to their own made up bias like they are a flat earther. While they could be pointing out any one of the many flaws of the game but nah, it's "the shemales and herms that are overwhelming."

Meanwhile this game is drowning in cowgirls and I like cow girls but where the fuck is my goblin harem member blowing me under the table and in the morning to wake me up. Or actually tell characters that your making a harem and after the main quest is all over.

 

[GS21]

Did a good job with Arona?
The character that attacks and tries to rapes the PC multiple times and fails. But then the game force you into accepting a quest where they asks the PC for help to be put in charge of the the people that are here rape and enslave after failing to rape and rob the PC.
Arona the character by their own words, logic, and culture the PC should be able to do whatever you wish to them but the PC can only soft-dom them and even puts the PC on the spot in front of a crowd despite being the PC's sub. While if they was dominant they get to do all sorts of Hard dom action and get to proclaim all sorts of action they will be doing to the PC now and in the future.

Unless your talking about the quality of the writing for each scene, if not then Arona is one of the poster child for what's wrong with this game. A herm OC character that the PC has less than no reason to like but the writing forces this character onto the player and tries to force them into being a party member. And despite having 2 different states one is deeply treated like an after thought and warped so the PC can't be mean to a OC character like they was and can be to the PC.

This man is cooked

Can't get your submissive beta to get rid of her dick because uhh... uhh... that would lead to writing too many conditionals where she's not stretching your (or your companion's) asshole six ways to Sunday.
On the other hand one of her bad ends includes her genderbending your PC into a mindless baby printer.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

For the second scenario I'll cast Cait in cum sponge mode, and end my turn

I activate Pot of Greed, which let's me draw two cards. Then I activate "Restore Cait's anal virginity" which enables her to lose it again. Next I play my face down card Cuck Chair. By sacrificing my Player Agency from my field I gain life points equal to the word count of a scene where Cait get's gangbanged but there is no interaction on my part. But that's not all Kaiba. since sacrificing my Player Agency destroyed the Silly Baka equip spell the next scene will now be written by tobs. The rest of my deck is just more copies of Pot of Greed so I surrender now.

On the other hand one of her bad ends includes her genderbending your PC into a mindless baby printer.

I really don't like the orcs or their whole everything but that sounds like a good scene.

Game needs more of the pink manticore girl for no reason other than I think flying monster girl domme is hot and I wanna be able to throw a harem of muscle women at a problem and said harem needs more variety outside of equine features.

 

[GS21]

Game needs more of the pink manticore girl for no reason other than I think flying monster girl domme is hot and I wanna be able to throw a harem of muscle women at a problem and said harem needs more variety outside of equine features.

Apparently she has a five-stage bad end, so that was kinda shocking to learn considering it's a random roaming encounter. Personally I wouldn't hate it if they made her a recurring encounter.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Apparently she has a five-stage bad end, so that was kinda shocking to learn considering it's a random roaming encounter. Personally I wouldn't hate it if they made her a recurring encounter.

Yeah if you lose five times in a row she carries you off to be her first harem member and if you have a vagina she'll knock the player up and it's honestly pretty good. The bad end baby even gets the player's eye color. I wanna bring her and the blue manticores to the wayfort.