Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[YouShallNotLol]

Those people are high off there own internet rage and are pointing to their own made up bias like they are a flat earther. While they could be pointing out any one of the many flaws of the game but nah, it's "the shemales and herms that are overwhelming."

Meanwhile this game is drowning in cowgirls and I like cow girls but where the fuck is my goblin harem member blowing me under the table and in the morning to wake me up. Or actually tell characters that your making a harem and after the main quest is all over.

Your cooked
Even then with these points you made the content that gets made and gets the most attention and the writers that can put out quality content is mostly still mostly focused on female NPCs. Cait stealing the show slop is 1st and then female NPCs But after is the problem that dom herm, shemale, and/or dickgirl NPCs is next.
And holy shit, it's like their allergic to male NPCs despite making so many dom herm, shemale, and/or dickgirl NPCs just act like super horny and/or rapey males. and it's to the point that you could just replace their art and appearance sections and barely anything would be lost in transition. And that's sad.

But what should you expect when they JUST last year added a DILF npc to fuck. And it took till coc2 to add a fucking harem to a fucking porn game.

That's the cherrypicking I was talking about. Dude literally ignored all the previous arguments and defaulted to hit imaginary numbers.
Guess he very much enjoys the "Effigy Archer A" and "Cultist Mage B", or "Orc Thane" (who only appears in one optional fight during Arona's quest, and you can't interact with him ever again). Such great and quality characters. Wish more NPCs in this game were like that.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

years

Which is weird since so many options and bad ends result in "you died".

But you see. Champ killing anyone is a power fantasy, but random nobodies killing the Champ? That's the default.

I have a question for the thread that I genuinely want to hear out, think about throughly about, and answer. If you were in Savco's shoes and u were given the plot point, lore, and characters up to this point how would you develop CoC2?
You have put yourself in their shoes, so no fantasy budget or fantasy writers added. Just you and their own reality and have to dev it with their resources and tools.

As in, I was literally one of them?
Just keep doing what they were doing for the past 7 years. Keep slowly deleting features from this game, while writing more cardboard futadommes. And once a year, release a "feature complete" pure female that has no interactions.
Male characters? What the fuck is a male?
If I deviate even slightly, I'll get bullied off like Hugs. So there's no reason to step out of the line.

 

[icecreamman99]

I have a question for the thread that I genuinely want to hear out, think about throughly about, and answer. If you were in Savco's shoes and u were given the plot point, lore, and characters up to this point how would you develop CoC2?
You have put yourself in their shoes, so no fantasy budget or fantasy writers added. Just you and their own reality and have to dev it with their resources and tools.

This whole post below

1: Have a detailed character and location bible detailing the general personality and kinks of characters and what each location is going for, both planned and implemented. Detail how much depth each character and location is going to get. Maybe even give the community access to this. Make sure there is a healthy variety of personalities and kinks so that every character option gets some love.
2: Fewer characters, more in-depth interactions with characters. There's a ton of characters you can cut and loose basically nothing. Random encounter fucks are fine for less fleshed out characters, but big characters should have depth and respond to the player's actions and transformations.
3: Keep egos and tangents in check. This is a video game meant to be played by people, not a forum roleplay; no writing stuff just to spite people on the forums or writing about how super special your OC is.
4: Edit, edit, and edit some more: the writing should be scrutinized for grammar, tone, and other issues. If people consistently raise issues with certain passages, then look at them. Don't be afraid to rework or remove stuff that doesn't work.

• Add build up; namely for certain scenes and events. Far too often the PC or NPCs just jumps to extremes despite their current or past interactions or what has been written for the NPCs.
• Have talks to establish what kind of relationships the PC and NPCs are in or going to be in with talks.
• Start making NPCs that are impressive/worth-a-damn and show being impressive/worth-a-damn
• Add a Harem for Fem-PC
• Filling out the missing archetypes or the races in the codex [where's my damn goblin lady, cow city is supposed to be cows and goblins]
• so many other things

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Since we're talking about manticores:
Did you know, the manticores initially had pussies on the ends of their tails (yes, just like iconic MGE monster girls), but then they gutted the whole cunt-tail feature? Which was also included in the manticore transformation for the Champ.
With the excuse given: "Nobody on the team wants to write that." Despite TiTS having extensive support for tail genitals, and Savin himself writing several characters with tail-pussies.
It happened in 2019. They were actively gutting transformations almost from the beginning of this shitty game.

Was there ever an explanation as to why? Because I think I remember it being part of other transformations/stuff they cut. Because of claimed difficulty or too much work. Or maybe I'm mixing things up..... also fuck. I just had one of them normie lucid moments where I'm realizing what I'm into. And I'm reckoning with the idea of wanting to fuck a tail pussy. Like sweet jesuz the internet has fried my ass.... ah well!

 

[icecreamman99]

Sure but consider this

I like her

Having said that I have really, really, really low expectations for this game. Her scenes are hot if you're into that kind of stuff and are way better when she's a sub. At this point I know we won't get anything better in the way to the last fight and I do happen to like Arona's psycho energy. I guess is a matter of taste

Nothing wrong with liking them or being your favorite but that different from being an example of a well put together or constructed character.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Was there ever an explanation as to why? Because I think I remember it being part of other transformations/stuff they cut. Because of claimed difficulty or too much work. Or maybe I'm mixing things up..... also fuck. I just had one of them normie lucid moments where I'm realizing what I'm into. And I'm reckoning with the idea of wanting to fuck a tail pussy. Like sweet jesuz the internet has fried my ass.... ah well!

"Too much work" is just an excuse. Whenever anyone uses it, just look back at CoC and how interactible and responsive it was, and how most characters reacted to your transformations and had unique interactions with them.
The real answer will always remain this line from Savin himself:

Motherfuckers literally hate the core concepts of Corruption Of Champions, yet keep branding their shitty little game as a proper sequel.
Also, I wonder (big sarcasm) why people from early days are mostly gone now. It's totally not like Savin and his clique were actively bullying people like Hugs and quite literally telling aspiring contributors "you should never write again" (real response from Savin to one of submissions on the forum).

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Since we're talking about manticores:
Did you know, the manticores initially had pussies on the ends of their tails (yes, just like iconic MGE monster girls), but then they gutted the whole cunt-tail feature? Which was also included in the manticore transformation for the Champ.
With the excuse given: "Nobody on the team wants to write that." Despite TiTS having extensive support for tail genitals, and Savin himself writing several characters with tail-pussies.
It happened in 2019. They were actively gutting transformations almost from the beginning of this shitty game.

Tragically they had to be nerfed. Or it's a skill issue on the writers' part. Or both.

Motherfuckers literally hate the core concepts of Corruption Of Champions, yet keep branding their shitty little game as a proper sequel.

They hate combat, transformations, corruption mechanics, and all clearly wanna make their own different games and are using this one as a vessel for theirs except like Alypia who just simps so hard for one character that they can dump all work related to said character onto her, but they still want the money and branding associated with it to benefit their vanity projects.

Also, I wonder (big sarcasm) why people from early days are mostly gone now. It's totally not like Savin and his clique were actively bullying people like Hugs and quite literally telling aspiring contributors "you should never write again" (real response from Savin to one of submissions on the forum).

Also the fact that only the clique have actual creative control and ownership over their submissions and anyone else must surrender ownership to savin so he can do whatever he wants if the character gets popular. They're so petty I'm convinced the only reason there aren't more Hirrud characters is either because savin realized how much work "dunking" on the haters is or he realized if he did that the wrong way it would ruin the fake inclusive image they try to cultivate and might actually kill the cash flow. Even though I'm sure some content violates patreon's TOS already.

 

[icecreamman99]

Slightly good news for the MxM crowd is that there's a one or two writers picking up the pieces of abandoned/barren NPCs. There's excerpts for Nash on the discord server, and the same writer is planning/making more Nyze content.

A bit late bringing this up when it comes to the female NPC count argument, but I don't believe people have actually taken a look at said list of NPCs. The excel is out there and I can confidently say that the average player won't even recognize a third of them. This isn't even because they're boring or unforgettable. Rather they're background characters that often make up many of the group sex scenes. They're not even real characters, so to speak, since you can't interact with them outside their event scenes.

A couple of examples are
* The milking barn girls
* The centaur orgy girls
* The Storm witch cowgirls
* The Frost elf priestesses

Outside of maybe the milking barn girls I don't know if anyone knows any of these "NPCs'" names without looking them up.

Alternatively, you also got hanger-on NPCs that are part of the count and only really exist as accessories for other characters, like Klemaia's harem and Melara (if you even know who that is), or package deal half characters like Lessala and her cronies, the Starhome Trio, the marefolk barbers, etc.

The thing that really bloats up the count though are one-and-done event/quest NPCs, who you only see once or are genuinely just combat fodder that still end up being counted because they're technically "named NPCs". This applies to the male NPC struggle too, so whenever anyone brings up the metrics this is usually who they're referring to. It's either that or "feature complete" half-baked hell, but mostly the latter.
They'll tell you there's plenty of male NPCs in the game when half of them are genuinely Khor'minos nobodies with two scenes a piece.

The Math for the past 5 months still says your wrong and your still cooked despite having time to bring a follow up. I could go back even further but you would still be wrong.

THE MATH
Named and more prominent female shemale and/or herm npcs that got new content or was released using the pub patches listing as examples cause it condenses the proceeding patches and I'm lazy for this to be listing each patch.
Plenty of faults with this damn game but lets not make-up ones that don't exist.

0.8.1 Patch

female​

-Ylvid
-Hretha
-Isadora
-Varena with cow bard
-Drifa
-Caits

shemale and/or herm​

-Hjorr
-Alante; if 2/3 of the work was for giving them a dick then it belongs here.

0.7.45 Patch

female​

- Periwinkle
- Cait
- Azzy
- Isadora
- Calise

shemale and/or herm​

-Hana
-Karithea

0.7.42 Patch

female​

-Kiyoko by Aury
- Zhara
- Tira

shemale and/or herm
- Etheryn
- Tira with Evelyn

muilti gender orgy that get PC covered in cum too​

-The Snow Cats and Elf Druid Twins

0.7.39 Patch
female
-Cait
- Drifa and Corrupted Drifa
- Nihara
- Corrupted Ahmri
- Atugia


shemale and/or herm
-Hana
-Corrupted Ahmri
-Kalysea

0.7.34 Patch

female
- Cait
- Varena
- Drifa
- Livrea
- Liaden/Azzy
- Clementine

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[Sacred_Lamb]

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Definitely, honestly they'd need to really solidify the artsyle between 2 core artists, which is Moire (she's all-over the CoC2 already might as well put her as priority) and DCL (best furry artist out here, I think).

As it goes for grammar the just need to get someone from the community forum, pay them a little to lookover the docs ppl send them and they write. Or a Grammarly subscription fixes tht.

As for your 3 n 4, are definitely great ideas. Especially making some actions give irreversible corruption. Something that should be put on a pedestal is making each corruption stage have a personality quirk, but this is where I think my hot take would come in; the Champ should have a dedicated personality that changes with corruption.
Another hot take is that I'd change the transformations from partial or "pick and choose" to total changes with exception to the genitals and tits. Transformations would be like selecting options from the Omnitrix from Ben 10 rather than selecting clothes from a wardrobe.

There's a lot of ways to deal with 5. The problem is that the Gods are too powerful and said power too vague. They need specified bounderies and laws to govern them. (Whether literally or metaphorically) You never see this problem with IRL mythologies. All you have to do is give them something to do, make them fight over believers, or have different ideas on how things should be done.

7 is a no brainer but with guys like Tobs around there would have to be rules to make sure no one "mines salt."

8 n 9 are great quality of life options that would do good with gameplay implications.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

1: Have a detailed character and location bible detailing the general personality and kinks of characters and what each location is going for, both planned and implemented. Detail how much depth each character and location is going to get. Maybe even give the community access to this. Make sure there is a healthy variety of personalities and kinks so that every character option gets some love.
2: Fewer characters, more in-depth interactions with characters. There's a ton of characters you can cut and loose basically nothing. Random encounter fucks are fine for less fleshed out characters, but big characters should have depth and respond to the player's actions and transformations.
3: Keep egos and tangents in check. This is a video game meant to be played by people, not a forum roleplay; no writing stuff just to spite people on the forums or writing about how super special your OC is.
4: Edit, edit, and edit some more: the writing should be scrutinized for grammar, tone, and other issues. If people consistently raise issues with certain passages, then look at them. Don't be afraid to rework or remove stuff that doesn't work.

This is best practice, feels like they have no structure and just run off vibes. If they had a solid road map and proper rules they'd be fine.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

As in, I was literally one of them?
Just keep doing what they were doing for the past 7 years. Keep slowly deleting features from this game, while writing more cardboard futadommes. And once a year, release a "feature complete" pure female that has no interactions.
Male characters? What the fuck is a male?
If I deviate even slightly, I'll get bullied off like Hugs. So there's no reason to step out of the line.

Lol, as in you're the one in charge of directing the game. Tho the amount of bullshit they get up to it'd prolly happen like tht.
How would you structure it?

 

[randomv]

I'll be entirely honest and say my bias for Arona is due to two things. The archetype of hardass to everyone else but sweet on you is my jam. I've proclaimed my love for that setup a few times in this very thread. It's like freckled red/orange/in that general color area heads, it's a weakness. The other reason is that throne scene when you help her defeat her brother. I remember that shit being hot.

I believe it's optional and you can take or give her the throne.... or maybe it's just auto given to her . But either way, being able to pick her up and sit her on your lap. Taking your prize and fucking the big bad new chieftain in front of the whole tribe. While she tries to hold onto her pride and resist. But eventually caves to the pleasure, telling you not to stop despite the situation and earlier protest. That shit was hot. It was one of the earlier few times that I remember. Where I was fooled into thinking this game might actually be a power fantasy. But we learn in time....

I like Arona too, my problem is that her scenes become way more dick focused after her quest. And if you get her pregnant you can randomly proc a scene where you give her a footrub followed by a handjob that you can't opt out of. Also, she goes from being a dominant futa out to rape you to being even more of a sub than Brienne. All of her resistance goes out the window post-quest.

And I wish there was a way to side with Argoth without your character being an idiot who can't follow simple instructions.

Already said my piece but I will add this.

If CoC2 had more folks like Drifa (who you can actively push in certain ways) and less folks like... I dunno, those two demons I forgot to kill until I couldn't anymore, game would've been at least a 3 out of 5.

Are you talking about Sandre and Caera? If so, I have to disagree. You can eventually invite them back to the wayfort, disguise them, dom them and de-dick them. If every futa in the game was as malleable as those two the game would be objectively better imo.

I have a question for the thread that I genuinely want to hear out, think about throughly about, and answer. If you were in Savco's shoes and u were given the plot point, lore, and characters up to this point how would you develop CoC2?
You have put yourself in their shoes, so no fantasy budget or fantasy writers added. Just you and their own reality and have to dev it with their resources and tools.

Combat:

1.) I would make it so that every character in your party had a deck of powers, so you could change what powers they had access to mid-battle. You could balance it around cooldowns. Only being able to assign 4-5 powers before going through a gauntlet of random encounters is too limiting and promotes bland/generic skill use.

2.) I would change the way sensing works, it would be a bonus action that every party member can do once per turn. It would involve two checks, one for basic combat info that relies on level and cunning and one for a characters sexual interests that would be determined by your libido. Having to give up a turn just to find out what an enemy is weak to has always been annoying to me, especially since you have to do it with the MC.

Hopefully, both of these changes would make the combat flow a bit better and allow people to be more experimental in the powers they use.

3.) This might be controversial but I would get rid of kits too, the idea that a characters stats and move pool can completely change just because they changed outfits is silly( What is this FF X-2?). Party members would just have their own deck of powers and their own different armors and weapons that they gain as they level up and do different events.

4.) Party members should be able to use items too, never got why they couldn't.

5.) I would change the way presence works, I would cut the leadership bonus but give it to party members as well, so that they could buff the MCs stats as well instead of it only going in one direction.

General:

1.) I would make the MCs background more relevant to the story if possible. Maybe retcon is so that a Noble Scion is distantly related to Carmen and Tollus, or an Orc Barbarian is a cousin to Arona. Something that attaches the MC to the narrative more than you just randomly being hit by an explosion.

2.) I would give every dom-only futa an optional sub route, and in general make TFs for NPCs more common.

3.) Might not be realistic given the games stage of development but I would have chosen different party members. Characters like Azyrran, Atugia and Viviane don't have much of a connection to the story. Characters like Garret, Eryka, or Evelyn would have made more sense imo.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I like Arona too, my problem is that her scenes become way more dick focused after her quest. And if you get her pregnant you can randomly proc a scene where you give her a footrub followed by a handjob that you can't opt out of. Also, she goes from being a dominant futa out to rape you to being even more of a sub than Brienne. All of her resistance goes out the window post-quest.

And I wish there was a way to side with Argoth without your character being an idiot who can't follow simple instructions.

I honestly never really used her much after that. Maybe one or two scenes in the Hound out of curiosity. And maybe once or twice out in the wild. That and I went in expecting the worse from her. Back when I was still young and exploring this thread for the lore and fuckery. Arona got quite a bit of heat. So pleasant surprises compared to how I thought she would be.

But them random handjobs in scenes do be annoying. Like I did not consent to touching! I'm fucking despite the penis, not for it! I'm an attentive lover with everything but that. I'm selfish as fuck when it comes to that. But considering they are futa and who be writing them. I suppose expecting options and to come out unscathed is too much.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

The Math for the past 5 months still says your wrong and your still cooked despite having time to bring a follow up. I could go back even further but you would still be wrong.

THE MATH
Named and more prominent female shemale and/or herm npcs that got new content or was released using the pub patches listing as examples cause it condenses the proceeding patches and I'm lazy for this to be listing each patch.
Plenty of faults with this damn game but lets not make-up ones that don't exist.

0.8.1 Patch

female​

-Ylvid
-Hretha
-Isadora
-Varena with cow bard
-Drifa
-Caits

shemale and/or herm​

-Hjorr
-Alante; if 2/3 of the work was for giving them a dick then it belongs here.

0.7.45 Patch

female​

- Periwinkle
- Cait
- Azzy
- Isadora
- Calise

shemale and/or herm​

-Hana
-Karithea

0.7.42 Patch

female​

-Kiyoko by Aury
- Zhara
- Tira

shemale and/or herm
- Etheryn
- Tira with Evelyn

muilti gender orgy that get PC covered in cum too​

-The Snow Cats and Elf Druid Twins

0.7.39 Patch
female
-Cait
- Drifa and Corrupted Drifa
- Nihara
- Corrupted Ahmri
- Atugia


shemale and/or herm
-Hana
-Corrupted Ahmri
-Kalysea

0.7.34 Patch

female
- Cait
- Varena
- Drifa
- Livrea
- Liaden/Azzy
- Clementine

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I know you will never stop with the cherrypicking. Because you have a narrative to uphold.
But from just 8.1 patch you exluded Arona (she has scenes with Ylvid, even tho the patchnotes don't mention it at all) and Nieves, cutting down futa count in two. Which tells enough about the quality of your "math".
And I think this one example is enough to completely disqualify your "math" from being a serious argument.

Funny sidenote about cherrypicking. This was already pointed out literally two pages ago:

* When it comes to character content, last public update (8.1) included:
1) Hjorr (dom futa) scene
2) Cuck content where minotaurs fuck Cait
3) Hellhound futafication tweaks
4) Ylvid content you mentioned but conveniently left out the part where you can have Arona pump her full of kids instead
5) Alante Futafication, which iirc has more total content than her vanilla counterpart
6) Nieves (futa) scene
7) One Drifa scene

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Lol, as in you're the one in charge of directing the game. Tho the amount of bullshit they get up to it'd prolly happen like tht.
How would you structure it?

If I had any sort of control over them?
-First, I'd definitely focus on finishing the goddamn main plot. We've been stuck in Khor'minos for more than 4 years now.
-Second, getting more content written for already existing characters. For fuck's sake, Kiyoko didn't get an update from TOBS in actual years, hand her over to another writer already, you talentless hack!!!
-Third, put some kind of soft restriction on creating new characters, the roster is already bloated. Instead of creating new mooks for a single new sidequest, just reuse the old ones, there's enough "Effigy Archer A"s, "Cultist Mage B"s and "Orc Thane"s already.
-Fourth, force writers to actually write the CORRUPTION content into this CORRUPTION of Champions game. And I'm not even speaking about some grand stuff like corrupting the whole Khor'minos, more stuff like being able to be mean or even malicious to characters, like being able to tell someone to go walk the ice (this game's version of KYS). Seriously, corruption shines the most in the small interpersonal interactions.

That's the four most glaring issues I see with the development structure.
The issue of main writers only writing content within their own specific fetish is another can of worms of its own. I don't know how to force them to write something different, short of docking their pay.

Evelyn would have made more sense imo.

I disagree with this one. She's a literal Who?, who just so happens to hang out in Hawkthorne, doing absolutely nothing. If it was for me, I'd rewrite her entire backstory and premise from scratch. And her being a futa has nothing to do with it.

 

[GS21]

The Math for the past 5 months still says your wrong and your still cooked despite having time to bring a follow up. I could go back even further but you would still be wrong.

THE MATH
Named and more prominent female shemale and/or herm npcs that got new content or was released using the pub patches listing as examples cause it condenses the proceeding patches and I'm lazy for this to be listing each patch.
Plenty of faults with this damn game but lets not make-up ones that don't exist.

0.8.1 Patch

female​

-Ylvid
-Hretha
-Isadora
-Varena with cow bard
-Drifa
-Caits

shemale and/or herm​

-Hjorr
-Alante; if 2/3 of the work was for giving them a dick then it belongs here.

0.7.45 Patch

female​

- Periwinkle
- Cait
- Azzy
- Isadora
- Calise

shemale and/or herm​

-Hana
-Karithea

0.7.42 Patch

female​

-Kiyoko by Aury
- Zhara
- Tira

shemale and/or herm
- Etheryn
- Tira with Evelyn

muilti gender orgy that get PC covered in cum too​

-The Snow Cats and Elf Druid Twins

0.7.39 Patch
female
-Cait
- Drifa and Corrupted Drifa
- Nihara
- Corrupted Ahmri
- Atugia


shemale and/or herm
-Hana
-Corrupted Ahmri
-Kalysea

0.7.34 Patch

female
- Cait
- Varena
- Drifa
- Livrea
- Liaden/Azzy
- Clementine

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I think you might be a little confused. My original argument was concerning content volume, and not count. I even made that very clear in my first post regarding the topic. On top of that, it seems your "math" is wrong in the first place, for the following reasons:
0.8.1:
1) The Hretha scene is part of Ylvid's expansion, but it's convenient how you put them as individual entries. Quoted from the patch notes: "Hretha offers a new “Service” once you unlock Ylvid’s fertility (it’s helping you knock up Ylvid)." But sure, count it if you want, since she technically does appear in a scene that's focused on Ylvid.
What you did fail to count though, as someone else pointed out, was that a portion of Ylvid's content Includes Arona front and center, which is cute considering you included Hretha but not her.

2) Isadora did not get any "content" (Dialogue or scenes) in this patch, she got it all in the last public one. What she got in this one were the KM themed powers promised in the last one. Quote: "Isadora sells a number of new Warrior powers themed after the Khor’minoan Legions as part of her training options."

3) You failed to count the Nieves interaction.

0.7.45
1) You failed to count the Mareguards breeding and knocking up the PC. By your "math" metrics, would that add up to two futas?

2) Half of Cait's content is her and the PC explicitly pleasuring Hana, who already got another scene in this update. How does the math add up for this one? Do we count Hana twice?

3) You count Calise, who's name was only mentioned in the patch notes as the reference point to unlocking Isadora's content. Quote: "After Calise’s moved into her apartment, you can now also interact with her aide-de-camp Isadora."
The content in question, Calise's apartment, was introduced in the 0.7.18 public patch, and not this one.

0.7.39
Once again you conveniently left out Nieves' content, which is literally the first thing listed in the patch notes.

0.7.34
I was confused where you got Varena, Azzy/Liaden, Livrea, and Clementine, but it turns out their content was introduced in 0.7.31, so not only is your math wrong, but your reading too.

Next time you're gonna claim that someone is irrefutably "cooked and wrong", and hyping yourself up with an epic gif, please try to be factual about it. We could go past the last five months, but this little exercise was ultimately a waste of time, seeing as you can't even get your own math straight in the first place.

 

[Jbuster]

I like Arona too, my problem is that her scenes become way more dick focused after her quest. And if you get her pregnant you can randomly proc a scene where you give her a footrub followed by a handjob that you can't opt out of. Also, she goes from being a dominant futa out to rape you to being even more of a sub than Brienne. All of her resistance goes out the window post-quest.

And I wish there was a way to side with Argoth without your character being an idiot who can't follow simple instructions.



Are you talking about Sandre and Caera? If so, I have to disagree. You can eventually invite them back to the wayfort, disguise them, dom them and de-dick them. If every futa in the game was as malleable as those two the game would be objectively better imo.



Combat:

1.) I would make it so that every character in your party had a deck of powers, so you could change what powers they had access to mid-battle. You could balance it around cooldowns. Only being able to assign 4-5 powers before going through a gauntlet of random encounters is too limiting and promotes bland/generic skill use.

2.) I would change the way sensing works, it would be a bonus action that every party member can do once per turn. It would involve two checks, one for basic combat info that relies on level and cunning and one for a characters sexual interests that would be determined by your libido. Having to give up a turn just to find out what an enemy is weak to has always been annoying to me, especially since you have to do it with the MC.

Hopefully, both of these changes would make the combat flow a bit better and allow people to be more experimental in the powers they use.

3.) This might be controversial but I would get rid of kits too, the idea that a characters stats and move pool can completely change just because they changed outfits is silly( What is this FF X-2?). Party members would just have their own deck of powers and their own different armors and weapons that they gain as they level up and do different events.

4.) Party members should be able to use items too, never got why they couldn't.

5.) I would change the way presence works, I would cut the leadership bonus but give it to party members as well, so that they could buff the MCs stats as well instead of it only going in one direction.

General:

1.) I would make the MCs background more relevant to the story if possible. Maybe retcon is so that a Noble Scion is distantly related to Carmen and Tollus, or an Orc Barbarian is a cousin to Arona. Something that attaches the MC to the narrative more than you just randomly being hit by an explosion.

2.) I would give every dom-only futa an optional sub route, and in general make TFs for NPCs more common.

3.) Might not be realistic given the games stage of development but I would have chosen different party members. Characters like Azyrran, Atugia and Viviane don't have much of a connection to the story. Characters like Garret, Eryka, or Evelyn would have made more sense imo.

I really like the last three points, as it is right now the MC's background is not even proper flavor text and does nothing beyond deciding some gameplay aspects when it could be much more. It doesn't need to go on deep, just give enough details to attach the champion to this particular place instead of any other location

I also see an issue with writings futas and attaching topping to domming when they could be seen as different things, there's a scene with that patrician's daughter, Arille, who is perfectly able to take a dick while also being in top and in control, now imagine having that choice available to some other futas which you interact more, at least the ones within your companion's circle

And about the companions, some of them really need something to do besides being there, I mean, what do they bring to the table?, I suppose at some point we will face the decapitator wraith or maybe find a village of redhead berserks because everyone also became inmortal or something. Someone proposed book or guide that should include everything about every companion in order to implement them

But most of all, the team should focus on finishing stuff, that alone would fix a lot of issues. It would be the boring kind of work, like fixing all the typos, that would really enhance the game. In that way they could claim that now, everything till Khor'minos is almost done

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

ourth, force writers to actually write the CORRUPTION content into this CORRUPTION of Champions game. And I'm not even speaking about some grand stuff like corrupting the whole Khor'minos, more stuff like being able to be mean or even malicious to characters, like being able to tell someone to go walk the ice (this game's version of KYS). Seriously, corruption shines the most in the small interpersonal interactions.

Hard agree with this bit about corruption. It's the intimacy of the corrupted act thts nice/shocking. Just u and a character or two, maybe a town or village we've interacted with for a quest or two to make it extra tempting/nerve-wracking.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I really like the last three points, as it is right now the MC's background is not even proper flavor text and does nothing beyond deciding some gameplay aspects when it could be much more. It doesn't need to go on deep, just give enough details to attach the champion to this particular place instead of any other location

There are too much of them, thts the first problem and like u said they do too little. The should affect ideally 2 or 3 aspects of the "gameplay" of this glorified smut book.
3 or 5 backgrounds are the sweetspot for writers to remember tht they exist.

And about the companions, some of them really need something to do besides being there, I mean, what do they bring to the table?, I suppose at some point we will face the decapitator wraith or maybe find a village of redhead berserks because everyone also became inmortal or something. Someone proposed book or guide that should include everything about every companion in order to implement them

They need to have stuff they bring to the party, u know? For me I think the pillars of a good companion are:
1 - Unique mechanic or function, maybe the enable you to cook special recipes at camp or access special spells but they got to have something. Bg3 has Karlach with her soul coins or Gale needing to eat magic items.
2 - Character Drama. They bring something that interacts directly or indirectly or tangential with the story or lore of the narrative.
3 - The own Objectives. They have their own goals that interact, interject, and/or interfer with the MC's goals.
4 - They hold a unique niches in the party, both in combat and out, things should feel different if they aren't in the party both in and out of combat. You've got the leader/competent one, the sexy one, the smart one, the den mother/party shield, the lancer/rival/second in command.
5 - They act as a stand in for their culture or a good starter for lore dumps disguised as character dialog. Gotta worldbuild some how and giving said character their own opinions on said lore adds extra spice to character development.

If that "companion" doesn't have at least 3 of these ticked off, its likely not gonna be good.

 

[Aliana2974]

0.8.2 ready.

• Viviane has a new quest that has a new set. This requires that you’ve met Vitruvius and Marilla in Khor’minos, and triggers upon entering the Frost Hound. And, y’know, having Viv as a Companion. (By Balak)
• Cait’s Get Squished scene has a new sub-scene accessible if Cait has a strapon. (By melonear)
• There’s a new Hashat loss scene for female elves. (By SlothfulSpectre, coded by Squishy)
• Balance Adjustments: Thieves’ 1st level at-will, Fading Strike, has been reworked to be a little more useful, and the Warrior’s 1st-level recharge, Rend, has had its Bleed damage increased. The Trident has had its inherent Bleed damage reduced, and its bleed can’t crit.
• The dyslexic-friendly font option should no longer reset every time you reload the game. Whoops.
• Text fixes courtesy of Spotty and Zag.